UPDATE: Maduro pleased ‘crusade noise’ was turned down
The issue had come to the forefront on Saturday April 20, 2013 when a woman called in to his show complaining that the loud audio coming from the crusade at the Festival Grounds was affecting her and she was not getting any satisfaction from the police and government officials.
According to the woman, the noise from the crusade was penetrating her bedroom and causing her much discomfort.
The caller made it clear that she had no objection to the crusade but that the worshippers needed to have regards for other people.
Mr Maduro was in support of the woman and had said he himself had issues with the “noise”.
“These are the people coming from God and they have no respect for your rights. Then what are they teaching you?…Will a man of God come and make so much noise that he drives you crazy? These are some of the follies that we have to put up with? Some of the most religious people are some of the most wicked you can find on the face of God’s earth. I have experienced that,” Mr Maduro had stated but also clarified that he was not necessarily referring to the persons holding the crusade.
Speaking on his show Saturday evening, Mr Maduro said he was glad to hear that the entity to whom the complaint was made against had, on three consecutive nights, turned the loud speakers down to a point of tolerance.
“There has been great understanding, the persons involved have in fact acted in a very humane way, a very responsible way, of which I am proud,” Mr Maduro reported on his show.
Holding up a document, Mr Maduro said it was pertaining to the Noise Abatement Law, which is in existence in the Virgin Islands but which needs to be enforced. He had promised to get copy of the law after the caller had said she made complaints to police about the noise at the crusade but was allegedly told there was no “law in standing” to deal with her issue.
The host commented that he liked the Noise Abatement Law “because it gives everyone the opportunity to correct anything that they are doing that would make too much noise without just being arrested and taken to prison. The law is excellent.”
See previous article posted on April 22, 2013
'Crusade noise' sparks debate on BVI Forum!
The Edmund Maduro hosted programme, BVI Forum, on CBN Channel 51 appeared to be going smoothly on Saturday April 20, 2013 until a woman complained that the loud audio coming from the crusade at the Festival Grounds was affecting her and she was not getting any satisfaction from the police and government officials.
According to the woman, who called in to the programme, the noise from the crusade was penetrating her bedroom and causing her much discomfort.
“We really have no laws here. Somebody grant permission for the people to use the tent on the Festival Grounds. This is the third weekend….I called the police station, I called government members and none of them has done any better. You have to have things done with regards for other people,” the woman complained.
The caller also complained that she called the police and they allegedly told her that there is no law in standing to deal with her issue. Mr Maduro objected to this since, according to him, there is a “Noise Abatement Law” in the Virgin Islands. He also said he sympathized with the caller because “I had to leave my house one night and go down at the bottom and tell them stop their nonsense.”
The caller made it clear that she had no objection to the crusade but that the worshipper needed to have regard for other people by being so loud.
“These are the people coming from God and they have no respect for your rights. Then what are they teaching you?…Will a man of God come and make so much noise that he drives you crazy? These are some of the follies that we have to put up with? Some of the most religious people are some of the most wicked you can find on the face of God’s earth. I have experienced that,” Mr Maduro then stated but also clarified that he was not necessarily referring to the persons holding the crusade.
Another caller then asked about the festival activities held at the same venue and wanted to know of the first caller listens to the noise then. “Does she listen to it? Then they should stop the festival because I am sure she does be hearing. The festival does have all the noise and it does be late,” the woman reasoned.
“Lady what you are arguing makes no sense at all. The lady has called for the enforcement of the law, the law is there and it should be put in place,” an obviously upset Maduro retorted.
Efforts to get a comment from the Royal Virgin Islands Police Force (RVIPF) and the Seventh Day Adventist Churches in the VI were not successful. The Seventh Day Adventist Churches are reportedly the organisors of the crusade.
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This beats going to church any day. :)
Please read the following and I mean really do yourself a favor and read those scriptures, please, so that you have information.
1. Psalm 14:1; (2) Psalm 53: 1 and (3) 1 Corinthians 1:18. I pray God that you have a Bible, if not, since you are already online go to www.blueletterbible.org and pull up the scriptures. Please do, at least for information. One person said, the difference between ignorance and wisdom is "Information". Please be informed and then make your comments.
If you do not, we will still pray that God will forgive you, as Stephen when he was being stoned and Jesus, they said, "Father forgive them, for they know Not what they do and I will say, Father forgive this one, for they know Not what they say.
Rape:
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her."
Deuteronomy 20:14 "But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself"
Slavery:
Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money"
The Bible is all-encompassing, condoning both the rapist and the slave-owner.
Now get to reality and understand that the promotion and marketing of this dead man is purely to drive the business of the church, grow its victim base (I mean followers) and make more money.
How do you guys know this woman don't complain about festival as well? Noise is noise and people need to use their discretion. You don't need to behave like an @$Z to praise the lord or whoever you believe in.
Because I does be out there wuking up and enjoying myself that's why I don't care how much noise they make doingfestival time. ok then.
However, if they were making noice, as the lady claimed, at any time after 10:00 or 11:00pm then the police would have gotten involved.
And rightfully according to the other caller, does that lady, the first caller complain during festival time? I am sure that noise at the village would have been much louder and longer, becasue they usually go all night until day break. Where is she during that time? Does she take a vacation from BVI and travel overseas, or maybe she would be right in the crowd where she would even be hearing much more noise.
This is very unfear and uncalled for. And again Maduro need to know the law before he comes in with his biased remarks. He need to go on an anger management program. They should have included him on hte program they did at the prison. I guess he will never learn cos it is hard to bend an old grown tree. He really needs to do better than this as a host of a program. I thought the JTV action had taught him a lesson, but it does not seem so.
The people have a right to be where they were having thier crusade as long as they do not go over the limit of time when the law takes effect. Either 10:00 or 11:00pm. I beleive we all have rights in these Virgin Islands.
of how many ANTI Christian people it is living and working in this Island.
I am not saying that everyone that have commented here is .
But by some of the " below the belt " remarks you can tell
It is rather loud and I am surprised to see this article online but it tells me i'm not the only one that thinks so, if the community is saying something and crusades occur all the time then something is done differently whether more speakers or whatever. Those comparing it to festival I don't think you live in the area and understand specifically how it sounds. Yes they want to be heard and spread the word but they can accomplish that without being that extreme, you have to go into someones home in the town area, Botanic Station, Lower Estate, etc. and really hear how it sounds inside.
We should be able to listen if we so desire but we should also be able to turn on a radio or watch another Tv programme and actually hear it or not feel like someone is screaming at us in our own home. I'm simply saying let us be an example of how ANY function should be held. It's not able a Jesus thing or religious thing.
carnival, l i even considered taking off to my sister's house at one time . People need Jesus that's all.
PLease come with something more rational!
Just because it is written in your little book does not make it true - it was written that Humpty Dumpty fell off the wall - is that true? More likely it is than your story about heaven so go sit down and get an education!
Do they understand how out of tune many of the singers are?
Now put those together with lots of decibels and imagine how bad it sounds in peoples living rooms. At least with festival whether you like it or not there is some kind of rhythym so it is somewhat less annoying
Why it have a law saying you can't make noise around the Hospital and Elderly Home but not homes especially late in the nights?
If the singing was pleasant to hear and the word was just about getting yourself saved I wouldn’t mind. BUT……….
There needs to decibel controls for these crusades. I'm not saying not to have them. Only that those under the tent should hear the "noise" from the tents , that's all!
Please turn down the speakers to a comfortable level to accommodate the residents. Let us be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
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Somebody needs to check that fool Maduro about his ignorance BECUZ he sounds like a clown! These are the ppl we actually sit down and listen too like Really? God don't like ugly that's why our country can't prosper the way it's suppose to because Tolians complain about simple stupidness. 2hrs in the nite is really gonna kill this woman to hear the word of GOD....ain't like she going to sleep she wide awake watching CSI MIami....come on ppl leave the church alone and enjoy the word of God BECUZ some us might need it. In a few months carnival is coming up and it's going to be noise like crazy....
I HOPE TO SEE THIS TOPIC AGAIN THE ENDING OF JULY AND THE SAME WOMAN COMPLAINING ABOUT NOISE AND MADURO TALKING IGNORANCE ABOUT THE NOISE ABATEMENT LAW....share IGNORANCE!!!
Quoting the Bible which is written by man proves what? I can quote a magazine or good book myself. Do you see people up and down trying to live by other books? Please cut the $h1t out. It's not the only set of scriptures that exist which speaks of the days of God. You all using the same book that advocated whipping the black skin off your backs to be your savior.
Peaches, you cannot use the Bible scripture as proof that the Bible is correct. That is very STUPID. The fact that you have to do that proves my point. It is all man written and no way to prove it was true. How do we say that this is truth and all other scriptures written are false? You choose to believe this particular thing and you convince yourself that it's the truth. That doesn't mean it is. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are essentially telling me "The Bible says it is true so that means it is true!". WHAT? You expected a verse or scripture in the Bible that would say it's not true? I don't get your level of thinking. If someone walks up to you with a 'book' claiming that it can make you 'x' amount of money if you put up 'x' amount of money, you put up a red flag one time. But this book, you believe wholly and solely like a blind bat. I have nothing against anyone who are Christian or otherwise Religious. What I have a problem with is that they are willing to be open minded and cautious about everything else except their religion, no matter how many facts you provide. Then when all else fails, they tell you it's the Devil have you questioning God and you better prepare for hell. Pure scare mongering and slave minded bull$h1t is what I call that. Ignore everything else, pray to God and wait for things to happen, while people are actually out there doing things to make things happen.
All this blather is about nothing. The sound should be to a level where the people participating can hear it clearly. It does not have to be that loud and that's the point. It is church and not a music fest. When they have church in their own building it is never that loud so why does it have to be so amplified when the people are right there? Nobody has a problem with Church, people have a problem with how loud and bothering it is for 3 whole weeks. We can all meet middle ground. BVI people are not evil people. Not because people don't follow your religion makes them devils. Everybody has a right to believe what they want. Many people believe in God but despise Religion. Religion and Church is NOT GOD! Get that in your head. So when people don't like your church bullshit it's not that they don't like GOD. Stop trying to equate the two because it shows you are a j@ck@$z and need to learn about what God stood for. God is not Church or Religion.
By the way, it is a territory not a nation.
problem solved.
But the problem here is more than noise....
OMG some of these comments brought tears to my eyes. I cannot believe how these people are defaming the name of GOD and HIS WORD. His WORD is exalted above HIS very name. May GOD have mercy on us all. Lord, forgive them for they know not what they do. Lord I pray you will save me from the destruction I foresee will come upon this country and the people who are profaning Your name and rejecting You and Your words.
Just after these meetings are finished....Let the fire and flood wash this place of this evil and these wicked people.
E...d, may I suggest that you settle your outstanding accounts with your creditors around Tortola.