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'Woe be unto him who leads the flock astray'- Caller to Bishop Cline

- calls for Bishop John I. Cline to resign as a church leader for his views on ganja legalisation
Members of the public are upset with Bishop John I. Cline's views on marijuana legalisation, calling for the man of the cloth to resign from the pulpit. Photo: VINO
Bishop John I. Cline on on his television show
Bishop John I. Cline on on his television show "Cross Talk" aired on CBN channel 51 on Saturday February 4, 2017 had suggested the legalisation of marijuana in the Virgin Islands, commenting that if alcohol, which he believes is more dangerous, can be legalised so can marijuana. Photo: Internet Source/File
Mr John I. Cline was of the view that locking up persons for small amounts of marijuana was not the answer. Photo: VINO/File
Mr John I. Cline was of the view that locking up persons for small amounts of marijuana was not the answer. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- Describing it as a source of deep “distress” one caller to the Speak Out BVI radio programme on ZBVI 780 AM, with Host Doug Wheatley, on Tuesday February 14, 2017 called for the candid man of the cloth, Bishop John I. Cline, to step down as a religious leader for his views on the controversial topic of marijuana legalisation in the territory.

It was on his television show "Cross Talk" aired on CBN channel 51 on Saturday February 4, 2017, that Mr Cline said imprisoning people for marijuana may not be the best way to go and even suggested its legalisation in the Virgin Islands, arguing that if alcohol, which in his view is more dangerous, can be legalised so can marijuana.

"We need to be more of a correctional facility or institution than just punishment. We are spending so much money keeping people in prison for non-violent crimes and the same thing we locking them, for now, America (USA) is making billions of dollars off of selling marijuana. This is the same thing we got our young men them locked up in jail for, something wrong with that," the man of the cloth said.

Bishop Cline's opinion was specific to non-violent crimes.

"Right now I still believe that we are with this old mentality that if somebody is found with drugs or something like that, you send them up (Her Majesty's Prison), you punish them [but] they don't come out any better that they went in," Cline stated, adding that he is subject to corrections if he is wrong.

The clergyman was at the time making his case for making VI prisons more correctional as opposed to one that's more for punishment and, in his words, "when America says it's wrong, it's wrong, but when America says it's right then it takes us ten years for us to say we agree."

Lack of scientific backing

However, the caller said lack of proper evidence backing his (Bishop's Cline's) opinion was a detriment.

“These are harmful effects and no minister or pastor, no one involved in religious counselling should go on radio, go on television or any media or any event at all and speak to the fact that we should legalise a substance that is that harmful, without presenting one iota of evidence as to no intermission that may have emerged since the 1930’s.”

Disregard for young people’s welfare

“I was very deeply distressed …the statement which he has made shows his full and sufficient disregard for the welfare of young people of this territory,” the caller said.

“I believe that he would benefit from having a meeting with the parents and students of the high school to learn about the impact that this gateway drug has on many of the students there. Also, he should meet with members of the police force who have to deal with students on a daily basis and at the same time he would benefit greatly from a meeting with a senior magistrate who sees them in her court,” he pointed out. “After that, he should resign his position as the pastor of the church, because woe be unto him who leads the flock astray.”

Marijuana already a problem in VI

While admitting that there may be benefits to the herb, the caller said presently the use of marijuana is already a problem in the Virgin Islands.

“We have young men riding through traffic stoned out of their minds, some of them have been killed and no doubt some of them badly injured. They are riding through traffic without helmets, without following the traffic regulations and so on. You have children going to school who have smoked the night before, they smoked the morning before going to school and leave the classroom without permission from the teachers, they go outside and they smoke, they come back and they disrupt the class and then they do not complete any home assignments from the teacher,” he lamented.

According to him, these are some of the complaints that local educators face.

“These are students who are unable to pass any exam, they are stuck in form two, and there is no future for them at all! They are not able to find a job, they are going to end up in court…and these are the same students that we have to depend on to lead the future of the Virgin Islands!”

Several persons called in support of the caller’s opinion.

The call for Bishop Cline to resign as a pastor comes on the heels of him being asked to resign as Chairman of the BVI Health Services Authority (BVIHSA).

This news site had first and accurately reported on January 9, 2017 that the Premier and Leader of Government Business, Dr The Honourable D. Orlando Smith (AL), demanded the resignation of Bishop Cline, allegedly for criticising the National Democratic Party (NDP) Government and supporting the view of former legislator Eileene L. Parsons OBE that the portfolio of Finance should be given to Minister for Health and Social Development Hon Ronnie W. Skelton (AL).

73 Responses to “'Woe be unto him who leads the flock astray'- Caller to Bishop Cline”

  • vvi (16/02/2017, 09:35) Like (53) Dislike (25) Reply

    Shut the hell up bout resign as pastor. He is the only pastor in the BVI who is bold enough to voice his opinion on touchy subjects. The rest of them have their heads and their a%%3$ in the sand

    • @vvi (16/02/2017, 11:12) Like (11) Dislike (3) Reply
      By your words you are not from his "flock"
      • True (16/02/2017, 18:17) Like (11) Dislike (7) Reply
        VVi is from 'Cline's' flock (The blind leading the blind and both will fall into the ditch.)
        • supporting vvi (17/02/2017, 10:40) Like (0) Dislike (4) Reply
          And once you don't fall in the ditch, then don't worry about the NLBC flock. You are perfection! As with other true believers, we will fall down but we will get up. We do not profess to be perfect but we do know God, we love God and we will continue to strive towards to mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Jesus Christ.
  • church member (16/02/2017, 09:37) Like (32) Dislike (43) Reply
    I am ashamed of you "Bishop" Cline!!!!!!!!!!!!! No morals at all.....you are leading the youths in the wrong direction and furthermore, we do not have to follow America because America has gone to the dogs years ago!!!! You need to sit down because one sunday morning you will come to church and speak to the empty benches!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • @church member (16/02/2017, 11:05) Like (38) Dislike (20) Reply
      You need to go sit down somewhere and take several seats. The Lord will send some more people, you don't have to come. You are so judgmental if you are a member at all, it appears you don't hear the word that is being preached so you should perhaps worship some where else where you can receive the word when it is preached. Why do you come? For excitement? Go where you can be fed! 1 Samuel 16:7 "The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” That's where Bishop Cline does trip alot of you all up. You are religious with no spiritual maturity. Everything in life is not black and white and he can stand and address the real issues whether they are tough to do or not. Criminalizing marijuana has not stopped the young people from using it. All it does is send them to jail when they are caught. And in there, our system provides no correction, no rehab, just jail time and out, jail time and out. It won't stop them from using it. Cigarettes and alcohol cause more deaths and organ diseases than marijuana, yet they are legal (do the students show up to school drunk).....That is the point that was made. You will catch his concerns in 15 years as some of you are always way behind in catching up. But until you do, stop judging. My gosth!! You are not God, you don't understand everything and you do not know Bishop Cline's heart or you would not be saying that foolishness.
    • wize up (16/02/2017, 11:59) Like (10) Dislike (4) Reply
      @ church member:(question) under the new commissioner of police violent crime in our territory is though the roof not only is crime out of control in our territory NO one is being brought to justice for these crimes(church member; why you don't ask for the new commissioner of police to resign; you won't because he is white BUT you prepared to go after John cline with you bull piss...I suggest that you leave Ivan Cline alone)...(you have the option of renting a space and starting your own church go right ahead and exercise that option)...you keep the faith and always put God First
    • hey (17/02/2017, 23:05) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
      You should be ashamed of yourself church member you say you love God and hate his creation...You need to wise up and figure out who your prasing because only devil wants to destroy God's creation so think about that.I know your list but find youself before its too late..but church member ah devil worshipper yur be
  • Esumbum (16/02/2017, 09:41) Like (35) Dislike (8) Reply
    Bishop Cline continue to speak your mind. None of them can do you anything. We need to change our ways. The 125cc motorcycle ban laws is in place for almost 30 years; It is not working. Medical marijuana is real and could be implemented here in the Virgin Islands. We need to wake up and put things in place to mover the VI forward. Stop incarcerating our young people based on old outdated laws. Good governance means govern all the people not just a few who think they know it all.
  • SMH (16/02/2017, 09:52) Like (36) Dislike (8) Reply
    These old people with their old misguided under educated way of thinking who scared of change.... sigh. Lack of scientific backing? This person serious!? Go sit down. Bishsop Cline is the first person in a while to come out and speak common sense but some people don't like that around here.
  • one ah we (16/02/2017, 10:04) Like (34) Dislike (12) Reply
    Worst church, woman getting children for people husbands still part taking in services. old woman professing Christianity, breeding for younger men, hiding to let them out their houses after 5 in the morning ... still Sunday morning come them is the first set with hands in the air and holding their chest. come on.. we are human , but GOD don't like ugly. he's a forgiven GOD, but how many times you expect to go to the well ?? geeessshh
    • east (16/02/2017, 10:46) Like (27) Dislike (2) Reply
      @one ah we, John is a good man and a friend of mines I may add .. but you are so right and you pound a nail on a few corny toes.. I've seen it for myself
    • It has them in every church (16/02/2017, 11:14) Like (18) Dislike (6) Reply
      The Bible said the wheat and tears will grow together until the day of harvest. You do not know their circumstances and you are not God. Stop judging and work out your own salvation. If you have a problem with New Life, don't come, but don't shoot down the truth about marijuana because you want an excuse to come on here unexposed and judge the church. Bunch of cowards. So what should the church do, go police her front? Stand up by the door of her house? You are nuts. If you have the evidence bring it as half the things you all know, only you all know them. I am sure you are not speaking of any thing current anyway. God forgives and he moves on. He wipes the slate clean that's why you could never be God so stop judging. You can go to the well as much as you need to. Jesus told the man that he must forgive 70 times 7 when the man asked him if 7 times was enough to forgive. That's 490 times. What are your sins? If is is not sexual, what is it? How often have you been forgiven. We may not know what it is but you know and God knows. Consider your ways and deal with your life and let God do the rest. You do not have the capacity and grace to be God, that's why he made you human. Some of you will really be shocked who enters heaven. Keep judging those that do the work of the Lord and don't worry about yourself, God is not like man!
      • one ah we (16/02/2017, 12:37) Like (3) Dislike (7) Reply
        @it has them in every church... I figured you is one ... my salvation is secure .. you on the other hand needs a lot of help .. I judging you ..yes... salvation, church, Pastor Cline, and GOD can't help you ... You're POSSESSED.. Even the devil don't want you .. if you fell like trashing it , leave your number or REAL initials.. you up against real tool
        • wow (16/02/2017, 12:57) Like (8) Dislike (1) Reply
          You don't even know me! You know nothing. I have never slept with anybody's husband or boyfriend in my life. Yet you judge me because I suggest you not judge them. Just based on my comment. I am happy your salvation is sure. Be content with that and try to help others. Not judge them.
        • @one oh we (16/02/2017, 13:06) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
          He is a leader. You are a sheep. You'll get this later. Sheep are always lagging behind.
          • This is spiritual discernment (16/02/2017, 19:13) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
            And if Jesus comes to you and tells you that Mr. Cline is wrong you will curse Jesus Christ to His face. A sheep is only as good as it's leader. God's children follow God's wisdom not man's and if the Holy Spirit tells us that the pastor is not preaching the wisdom of God, we discern it and we will not follow after evil wisdom.

            ( 11. I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. 12The hired hand is not the shepherd, and the sheep are not his own. When he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf pounces on them and scatters the flock. 13The man runs away because he is a hired servant and is unconcerned for the sheep.)

            The Holy Spirit leads the flock not man. If the wisdom of the Holy Spirit is not coming out of a man he is not a leader of the flock of Christ.

            (14. I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me, 15just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep.)
            • @Spuritual Discernment (16/02/2017, 22:33) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
              I agree with you except the Bishop taught nothing. He never told anyone to smoke marijuana. He voiced his opinion on a matter plaguing society. Not everything you think about will be spiritual discernment either. Some of it is from our own spirit. Judge not a person's intention. I don't need Jesus to tell me Cline is wrong. If Cline is wrong I can tell him. If Cline told me I should smoke marijuana I would say you are crazy sir, no thanks. But the question of whether it should be criminalized when other substances are not is a whole other issue and hardly a thing to do with the Holy Spirit. God gives us brains. He expects us to use them. People can differ in their opinion but why judge a person's Christianity because their religious view is different to yours? I think it's self righteous to do that.
              • This is spiritual Discernment (19/02/2017, 19:11) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
                Mr. Cline's opinion on the subject matter was a logical opinion not a spritual opinion.

                (Feeding on ashes, the heart is deceived, It hath turned him aside, And he delivereth not his soul, nor saith: 'Is there not a lie in my right isaiah 44-20)
                …21For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.…

                Jeremiah 4:22
                "For My people are foolish, They know Me not; They are stupid children And have no understanding. They are shrewd to do evil, But to do good they do not know."

                1 Corinthians 1:20
                Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

                Proverbs 26:12 See you a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
                Isaiah 47:10 For you have trusted in your wickedness: you have said, None sees …
                Jeremiah 8:8,9 How do you say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? …
                Jeremiah 10:14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded …
                Matthew 6:23 But if your eye be evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. …

                Romans 1:22 NIV
    • LOL (16/02/2017, 11:25) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
      70*7
      • pat (19/02/2017, 22:02) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        Apparently, they are capable of learning, or at least self- interest. Surprise.
    • Belonger With A Broader Perspective (16/02/2017, 12:41) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply

      In every church, these kind of scandalous behavior can happen. Some are exposed and others aren't but nonetheless it's possible. I'm not saying it's right but it doesn't mean you sit on your high horse to judge. A savior is just a sinner who fell down and got back up again. We battle temptations everyday. Abstinence from premarital sex may be easy for you but you may deal with other shortcomings. Are you bitter from some life experience that causes you to be a terror to others? Are you always honest? Do you look down on or talk about others negatively? These are all sins and no sin is higher than the other.

      Now for that idiotic caller mentioned in the article, it's obvious you and whoever you're talking to are retarded as hell. Marijuana doesn't cause those students to exhibit this behavior. I know several ambitious people who smoke marijuana who made it very far. Though marijuana is considered a gateway drug, there are many people who never evolve from marijuana. After 1980s, if you choose to do crack, heroin, coke, meth or any other harsh drugs, it's no fault but your own. The effect it had especially on the black community was the worst. There are many people who abuse marijuana. These students referenced in the article show evidence of marijuana abuse. Those students are choosing not to do the work to finish high school. They are stuck because they don't want to put in the work. People who chronically hit the chronic will never get any where. Everything isn't for everybody. Some people have more addictive physiological makeup than others which would allow any habit to become excessive. In life, too much of anything will be your downfall. There has to be balance.

    • Go soooooo (16/02/2017, 13:55) Like (11) Dislike (2) Reply
      Worst church, you sure about that!!!!!!!!!! seems like you took a lot of time to research NLBC think you should do the same for the other churches because there are pastors beating up their wives and divorcing them for members of the same churches and still carry the title as pastor. There are other members living double lives so my brother or sister or whatever or whoever the hell you are, "he without sin cast the first stone".
    • @one ah we (16/02/2017, 23:22) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
      You know a lot.
    • Wellnotyours (17/02/2017, 09:09) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      70 times 7. Each day go and ask for forgiveness. The well is yours to keep from giving forgiveness? Set ah hypocrites wanting God for themselves. And each day some envious and begrudgeous of others.
  • No Sir (16/02/2017, 10:13) Like (26) Dislike (4) Reply
    Caller, where is YOUR evidence?! Bring it let us see. I'm a smoker, and as a matter of fact, a prominent figure in the BVI society. I can FIRST HANDEDLY say that the plant marijuana itself is the furthest thing from harmful to ANYONE! Yes, it can be abused, no one is denying that, just as ANY OTHER perfectly legal "Prescription Medication" that has been PROVEN to be more addictive. Don't say it is "dangerous" when IT IS NOT! You even tried linking it to the way young men ride their scooters, where is YOUR evidence linking the two together? Quite frankly, I do not think anyone that has never used marijuana in ANY way, form or fashion comment on this issue; how can they avoid being bias? As much as they can quote the Bible, I can too... Genesis 1:29 - "And God said, “Behold, I have given you EVERY PLANT YIELDING SEED that is ON THE FACE OF ALL THE EARTH, and EVERY TREE WITH SEED IN IT'S FRIUT. YOU SHALL have them FOR FOOD." Who is MAN to make law that prevents me from partaking in what JAH has given me?!
    • SB (16/02/2017, 10:53) Like (16) Dislike (2) Reply
      PLEASE LEAVE THAT OLD FOOL FOSSIL CURL UP IN A CORNER AND JUST DIE! Waste of H2O obviously enough isn't going to the brain. With all due respect to ELDERS in our society sometimes you need to SIT DOWN OVER THERE. This is why CHURCH WORSHIPPERS should NEVER be allowed in government office. Times like these you understand separation of CHURCH and STATE. FOOLS!
    • Bunch of Foolishness (16/02/2017, 11:21) Like (15) Dislike (1) Reply
      People take prescription drugs everyday and they can kill themselves with them if they choose to abuse them. Alcohol is a number one killer for your kidneys, taken over time (abuse). Nothing gives cancer more than cigarettes but they are all legal. We accept it because we met it but America criminalized marijuana because black people prefer it to cigarette and it was an avenue to jail our men and our brothers and we accepted it. Talking foolishness about scooters. Those guys on scooters have deeper problems from their upbringing. I was raised in a marijuana invested village and never smoke a day in my life, neither cigarette nor marijuana. It is how you were raised that makes the difference, not what is available on the market for pleasure or abuse. Stop it and go educate you all selves. If you dislike the Bishop, just dislike him for no reason; its ok. He does not care. But don't spew your venom on foolishness that makes no sense. It makes you look like a religious Scribe and Pharisee that has no connection to reality and that cannot think for yourself.
    • Past smoker (16/02/2017, 13:40) Like (7) Dislike (5) Reply
      @ No Sir, a long time ago marijuana was safe to smoke, because all you do was smoke, eat and sleep. Now they putting a little bit of crack cocaine and heroin in it. I stopped smoking years ago when I bought a dime bag from a guy and proceeded to wrap it and found little bits of crack in it. Those little pieces of brown looking things you see in the dime bags is not seed they are crack/cocaine that is what have the young people acting the way they do when they smoke. I heard an old adage a long time ago that goes like this " If you ain't grow it don't smoke it" these dealers do not care about you only the money they take from you. Young people check yourself before you wreck yourself. Marijuana Seeds pop not melt, check it out.
      • @Past smoker (16/02/2017, 19:29) Like (1) Dislike (3) Reply
        So then Cline and his followers can sell the marijuana in the church to ensure that there's no added unwanted drugs in the supply.
        • Buff-Baff (17/02/2017, 11:12) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
          @ @Past smoker - I can see an ad on a billboard that says "Safe Weed, Save the Seed"
  • cousin (16/02/2017, 10:15) Like (7) Dislike (21) Reply
    I am very disappointed with the words that come from Bishop Cline mouth.
    I pray that God will speak to him in a special way that he can see and understand his holy words and not the way of the world.
    • @cousin (16/02/2017, 11:43) Like (15) Dislike (2) Reply
      It's only because you don't understand the deeper issue he is addressing. The Bishop does not spoke marijuana, but that does not mean he can't address an issue that has been a plague to our society and our young men. He is not encouraging its use any more than he would encourage alcohol and cigarette use. He is simply saying to me, if you can legalise one, you can legalise the other other criminalise all. I quite agree. They are all dangerous if overly abused.
      • Comment (16/02/2017, 19:43) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        Why not try to put out the fire, why add more fire to the flame.

        7Woe to the world for the causes of sin. These stumbling blocks must come, but woe to the man through whom they come! 8If your hand or your foot causes you to fall into sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than to have two hands and two feet and be thrown into the eternal fire. 9And if your eye causes you to fall into sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.… Matthew 18:7-9
        • Scribes and Pharisees (16/02/2017, 22:40) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
          That's what the Scribes and Pharisees did, quoted scriptures and law on the very Jesus when they did not agree with his position on certain matters. If Jesus were here. You all would do him the same thing. Always judging and always think you can use the Bible as a weapon when it suits you and when you disagree with someone's point of view. There are many scriptures that can be quoted to deal with you also but I'm sure you know them all. SMH.
          • @Scribes and Pharisees (19/02/2017, 19:36) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
            (That's what the Scribes and Pharisees did, quoted scriptures and law on the very Jesus when they did not agree with his position on certain matters.)
            When Satan came against him in the desert, Jesus spoke the word of God back to him. The same is true for us today...
            1. Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"
            2. Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"
      • Comment (19/02/2017, 19:23) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        If he doesn't smoke it how does he know that drinking is worse than smoking it? 'Maybe he tried it already.' If he does try it one day I hope no one adds a little extra ingredients to it. The devil has ways of open up doors that lead to man's distraction.
    • @ cousin (16/02/2017, 23:51) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I'm confused, who said anything bad about people or worldly?
  • cat (16/02/2017, 10:25) Like (13) Dislike (9) Reply
    Stand up john we spoort you
    • Human (18/02/2017, 20:03) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      He is the least to talk, he is leading thousands into HELL. HOw you can support a man that is leading the flock a stray?

      First he must repent and be ye saved by the power of the Holy Ghost / Jesus Christ. As the flock is doing.
  • 100 (16/02/2017, 10:39) Like (2) Dislike (4) Reply
    reign for what?????.PLEASE PEOPLE
  • wize up (16/02/2017, 10:52) Like (10) Dislike (1) Reply
    Bishop Cline not to worry because some white consultant will come to the BVI give a speech and those who upset will calm down(people sitting in jail on your tax money for petty offences meanwhile the killers and mask robbers can be brought to justice)....talk that
  • Gobbo (16/02/2017, 10:55) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    @ one ah we**** Yes we are ON:Y human. We will make mistakes.
  • Rasta youths (16/02/2017, 11:01) Like (12) Dislike (4) Reply
    Pastor don't mind the noise and that caller is old and out dated from when god creation is drugs so I guess lemon grass and mint bush is drugs as well because they are plants just like marijuana, so until someone with real sense like you pastor not those with them degree that running the place with no sense understand we will always be where we at but one thing is sure and certain anytime this government don't deal with this topic to atleast decriminalize marijuana NEXT ELECTION THEY ARE AS GOOD AS GONE because it have people in high places uses the same herb
  • @No Sir (16/02/2017, 11:23) Like (4) Dislike (12) Reply
    Why dont you try some poison mushrooms they were given by God too right? The think is the herb is certainly good for something but what? Ok you could name a few diseases I cannot doubt you without prove. What I am worried about is the people who sell these things they are greedy. Have you ever heqard of what is called a black cigar? It is where a dealer mixed the herd with more letal drugs lets say crack and sells it to a person who beleive at the time they are using marijuana and would not have used crack in the first place. We have seen the end results. My fear here is not about legalizing marijuana it is about the person who sell it.
    • LOL (16/02/2017, 11:45) Like (8) Dislike (2) Reply
      Where you saw that on a movie? You know anyboy around here buying these "Black Cigars?" Clam down.
    • @@No Sir (16/02/2017, 11:47) Like (9) Dislike (2) Reply
      So you think they are not selling it and wont sell it now? I know many people walking on the road crazy from bad mix. The problem with it now is that they are hiding so if they do that they won't be caught. If it is legal then they will have to follow guidelines and laws and foolishness like that would be caught and punished. Open up your brains and have a think about these issues. Legalising it will not stop people from being bad. Keeping it a crime will not stop people from going rouge. The issue is not the marijuana itself. We need to get that and not because you can't think as far outside the box as someone else, you start to judge them because you cant agree with what they are saying as you don't understand enough to agree. We need to stop it and lift up our levels.
    • wow (16/02/2017, 11:48) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
      You should've educated yourself before commenting. A mushroom is a fungus, not a plant LOL! It doesn't yield seed, so what you ask of wasn't being referred to. I won't even read the rest of your comment LOL! Bye.
  • you all (16/02/2017, 12:33) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
    ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO AGAINST THIS ARE SHEEPS AND BRAIN WASH YOU SEE IF THE PASTOR WAS SPEAKING THE RARE TRUTH IN THE CHURCHES THEN YOU SHEEPS WOULD ACTUALLY SEE HE IS MAKING SENSE AN YOU SHEEPS WHO ONLY LOOK AT OPTICS NEED TO BE OPEN MINDED CAUSE IN THE HISTORY BOOK AND IN ANYTHING WE DO ..THE ABUSE OF ANYTHING AINT GOOD FOR YOU..AND THE LACK OF INFORMATION YOU SHEEPS BE SUPER IGNORANT TO THE TRUTH THAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU...BECAUSE WE BACK WHEN AMERICA DEEMED ALCOHOL AND WEED ILLEGAL AND EVEN THE HEADACHE PILLS YOU TAKE TODAY WAS ILLEGAL AND WHEN THEY FIND WAYS TO PROFIT FROM THESE THINGS THE LIFT THE BANDS OFF THEM TO PROFIT SO THEY FOR THE PASTOR ONLY TALKING SENSE BECAUSE HE IS NOT A SHEEP AND HE CAN SEE AHEAD OF RIGHT NOW ONLY LIKE IGNORANT FOOLS WAKE UP PEOPLE THINK FOR YOU'RE SLEF NOT HOW PEOPLE TRAIN YOU TO THINK
    • Praying for You.. (16/02/2017, 14:34) Like (12) Dislike (1) Reply
      Did you actually type "sheeps"? On my knees. Hands clasped.
  • VG Realist (16/02/2017, 13:17) Like (10) Dislike (2) Reply
    So what did he said wrong? The fact he is a Pastor of a Church he shouldn't have a view on current issues? Marijuana is a herb that has its benefits and it can also be abused just like prescription drugs, crack cocaine among others. I agree with Cline on this issue.
  • weed (16/02/2017, 13:23) Like (11) Dislike (3) Reply
    Legalize the weed
  • Rebel (16/02/2017, 13:44) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
    Did not the bible stated in Genesis 1 verse 11-12..And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    In Genesis 1 verse 29 reads 9 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
    What the pastor speak are words of God and he is on the right path.
    • Exactly (16/02/2017, 14:15) Like (8) Dislike (1) Reply
      But they have this bad habit of only quoting SOME of the Bible... Quote ALL, or NONE!
  • realest (16/02/2017, 14:14) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    the pasters right half of these ppl ain went pass st thomas so they only know what they been spoon feed u live in the small world open your eyes
  • these FN church people. (16/02/2017, 16:35) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
    These people who call themselves Christians. Self righteous.. Why do they want to tell people how to think and what to think... Church is nothing but Evil. All them with Cancer are Christians. The Cancer is the Evil eating out their inside. .
  • bojan (16/02/2017, 17:24) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Marijuana is from a plant coffee is from a plant any plant has to be used in moderation talk about people all over weight looks older that that should who to be blame not because you have a car and the speed ometer has 150 MPH means you should try drive it at 150MPH it means you will kill your self.
  • Hidden Truth. (16/02/2017, 21:24) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Do you know how much fight down Bob Marley got a Rastafarian ganja smoker fighting for equality for all.
    In the end he became the world most popular ganja smoking Rastafarian.. Do you know they kill Bob Marley. ? Why,,? Bob Marley were having people leaving churches by the thousands to join Rastafarian culture. Started in England where churches were empty on Sundays everyone wants to rasta them it transfer to America its like a bright light shine on a hidden truth . the disciples were Rastafarians... Give a black man a black man story with a black face and he tare it up..give a black man a black man story with a white face and he hang it on his Wall.... Check it...
  • vi (16/02/2017, 22:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    He needs to get a grip over himself.
  • cheech & chong (16/02/2017, 23:18) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    holy smoke
    • @cheech & chong (19/02/2017, 19:52) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      No the Holy don't smoke, but the 'so called' Holy don't mind if you smoke.
  • whay a mess (17/02/2017, 06:22) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    @church member he don't have to study America because he talking about marijuana, but if it was something else you would have agreed with him. marijuana is a natural plant its how you use it. you all acting as if it coke or meth or some other man made drug
  • Wellmehboy (17/02/2017, 09:40) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    I came in late on this one, but I would like to say, where is Mr. John Cline's Constitutional Fundamental Rights of Freedom of Expression? So he can't have an opinion? All ye who like sheep have gone astray, listen to what the Bishop said before insinuating that he said smoking marijuana is good. We know long time that many hearers can't interpret nothing, they just jump off spouting their mouths without facts and understanding.
    Let me tell you, John I. Cline is among the few pastors in the BVI preaching with sense. He understands the scripture and makes it into relevant modern-day sense. When there was civilian unrest and injustice against black people in the South of America, did the preacher Martin Luther stood on the backlines and say "don't worry we will get our justice in the heavens bye and bye?" When the harsh reality of apartheid gripped our black people in South Africa, did Desmond Tutu got up and say "don't worry, be good Christians and you will get freedom in heaven?" No, they demanded redress and the South received its civil justice, South Africa Apartheid era came down and Martin and Tutu both received Nobel Peace Prizes. Let the Bishop speak because it appears that he is the fearless one among the pastors. Speak your mind and thoughts, Bishop, because you understand the times and seasons. Those who have ears to hear will hear what they want, those who have eyes to see will see what they want. But in the meantime, preach the word in season and out of season. You are on the right track. God alone will give you continued wisdom. Peace to the People!
  • Hmmm (17/02/2017, 16:04) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
    the side effects of marijuana are very real. There is not one person who habitually smokes this drug and remains productive. Using marijuana over time leads to the use pf heavier drugs in order to obtain the feeling of elation that is obtained from smoking marijuana. Pastor Cline makes it seem like the devil is winning the fight for our people and that we should just give in and legalize the use of marijuana, but then what? What facilities/ programs do we have here in the BVI to treat the addicts? Shouldn't proper infrastructure exist to treat addicts be before this step? Instead of saying what's popular Pastor Cline should say what is right. Who's side is he on; God's side or the World? Right now I can't tell.
    • @hmmm (19/02/2017, 19:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      The Word of God...Holy Spirit inspired words...well done truly God's servant.
  • my thoughts (18/02/2017, 22:33) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    I think the Bishop was making a valid statement. I think however, the statement was to broad, in the sense of legalizing marijuana. Now I assume that he wanted to say, based on the health benefits, if we have to make the drug legal, it would be best done under medical terms. This way the drug will only be used by individuals following doctors prescription based on patient illness. I am sure the Bishop was not insinuating that the drug just be legalized, to be passed around freely without any legal covering. I am sure his intention were good on the sense. If the drug is to become legal, I am sure there will be medical restrictions that will only allow admittance of the drug through prescription by a certified medical physician.
  • street justice (19/02/2017, 01:01) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Snake.....u think he reallylove the people buh free up dis and da.like the soul he ruin in his church he offer up.he is looking to offer up urs young man for a slice of pie in politics. Trying to win the favour of the young people to go run for politics .to kill steel and destroy like his u know who....lord have mercy on us
  • Bohannon (19/02/2017, 07:07) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Keep provoking the masses.
  • Read and understand (20/02/2017, 16:42) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Guess Doug Wheatley can't find anything in the newspapers to write about lately. I just wish some people would take time to read and understand what bishop Cline point was. As the saying goes you want to hide something from black people put it in a book. Some of us read and don't understand then we want to call the radio show and ask for resignation. He can resign but guess what the problem will still exist, then what. No one else will talk or do anything about it. There's a lot of bigger issues going on with our children here in the BVI that is not being addressed.
  • warrior not afraid (22/02/2017, 20:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    People are still in prison outside of the ( 4 ) walls , because of many false Shepherd , who are leading many a stray, the scpt.says in the year that king osaiah died ,we see the Lord high and lifted up. There are many king osaiah needs to died removed so people can see the Lord Jesus high and lifted , worship in spirit and in Truth, live act walk talk holy , the blood of Jesus, the churches today's are suffering from good reported and it's upsetting as a man of God I am ashamed, because the devil is creating hovoc and mockery because men have gives themselves to viles lusts money positions forsaken the truth,, this country is suffering from real men / women of God , who will speak truth, speak about salvation ,tell people to repent from there sins, doesn't matter who or what status it could be President Trump or the Queen , they need to repent of there sins and be converted baptized in Jesus name and received the holy ghost ,and preached truth .


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