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T.D. Jakes comes out for ‘Gay Rights’ & ‘LGBT Churches’

- says Position is ‘Evolving’
August 10th, 2015 | Tags: TD Jakes homosexuality gays lesbians Church
Megachurch leader and author T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle and that politics do not need to reflect biblical ethics, adding that his position on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving.” Photo: Huffington Post

Megachurch leader and author T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle and that politics do not need to reflect biblical ethics, adding that his position on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving.”

During an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist.

“Absolutely… I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” he replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”

Jakes said that he thinks homosexuals should find congregations that affirm their lifestyle.

“The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don’t like those convictions and values [and] you totally disagree with it, don’t try to change my house, move into your own … and find somebody who gets what you get about faith,” Jakes added.

He said that the issue of homosexuality is “complex.”

“Paul spends a lot of time wrestling back and forth, trying to understand should a woman wear a head covering, should you cut your hair,” Jakes stated. “I mean, they grappled back then and we’re grappling now because we’re humans and we are flawed and we’re not God.”

“Once you understand you’re not God, you leave yourself an ‘out’ clause to grow,” he said.

When asked if his position on homosexuality has “evolved,” Jakes agreed that it has.

“Evolved and evolving,” he replied. “I think that where I am is to better understand we, the church, bought into the myth that this is a Christian nation.”

Earlier this year, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states must legalize same-sex “marriage,” igniting a battle between the Church and State over the issue. In his comments on Monday, Jakes advocated for the separation of Church and State, which would allow for “all types of people” to have whatever rights they desire despite biblical prohibitions. He said that politics don’t need to be based on Christianity.

“[O]nce you get past [thinking America is a Christian nation] … Once you begin to understand that democracy—that a republic actually—is designed to be an overarching system to protect our unique nuances, then we no longer look for public policy to reflect biblical ethics,” Jakes explained.

“If we can divide—or what you would call separation of Church and State—then we can dwell together more effectively because atheists, agnostics, Jews, all types of people, Muslims, pay into the government. The government then cannot reflect one particular view over another just because we’re the dominant group of religious people in [this] country because those numbers are changing every day,” he asserted. “We need a neutralized government that protects our right to disagree with one another and agree with one another.”

Jakes had visited the Huffington Post to discuss his new book on “destiny.” The interview focused on motivational subject matter in following one’s dreams and passions as opposed to the eternal destiny of the soul.

12 Responses to “T.D. Jakes comes out for ‘Gay Rights’ & ‘LGBT Churches’ ”

  • huh (10/08/2015, 23:12) Like (14) Dislike (2) Reply
    a money hound just like the one drivin justbelieve
  • Concern 1 (11/08/2015, 10:05) Like (16) Dislike (3) Reply
    I don't care what is said to hide this sin. How do you replenish the earth not with a man and a man or a woman with another, no it is with someone of the opposite sex. Many are heeding to this falsehood or belief all in the name of money and who you are in society. These are really the last days and all we have to do is to keep our eyes on Jesus
    • Chill out... (11/08/2015, 11:36) Like (2) Dislike (17) Reply
      The crazy thing about this is that too much ppl are making this an issue. If a female opt to sleep with another female, that's her choice (most ppl are ok with this actually), if a dude opt to sleep with another dude, that's his choice (this is where the hypocrisy mostly lies). What is good for the goose is definitely not good for the gander with you people. And that's where I, a str8 man, have an issue. Personally, I have a general indifference to the topic, but again, the hypocrisy pisses me off to no end. I have friends, gay and str8, and the ONLY difference with them is their sexual preferences. Preferences!!! Just like how some of you prefer to have a steak medium well and some prefer well done. You try different things and figure out your preference. I don't see ppl quoting bible scriptures about how to eat meat...then again, you quote the bible saying not to. Anyway, back to the rightly reference Lev. Chpt. 20 v 13...but somehow neglect to mention all the other sins and punishments mentioned in that chapter, specifically v 10 that refers to adultery. You people condone one sin and defile another. Sin is sin. Faster you recognize that, the better off you'll be.

      I say all that to say this, if it's your thing, cool, do what you need to to make your happy. If it's not your thing, keep it moving and leave the damn people alone let them live THEIR lives how they see fit.
    • reality (12/08/2015, 09:35) Like (1) Dislike (7) Reply
      The earth is already over populated - how hard do you want the world to become for you Grandchildren, Great-grandchildren?
  • Joc (13/08/2015, 10:59) Like (16) Dislike (0) Reply
    I dont know if anyone noticed. But TD Jakes has a way with words and he did not acutally give any direct answer, he just added to the question. He will never openly admit that this is a sin he will just twist words around to make himself sound good lol
  • Pop the cark (15/08/2015, 10:41) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    Money hungry pretender going with the flow preacher can't run them out of my church because they brining in millions to make me look good and feel good so what the hell back them up yes.

    Hell are going to have more saints than sinners.

  • Hear the full video (15/08/2015, 13:31) Like (1) Dislike (5) Reply
    Here is the video with TD Jakes:
  • JohnStefanyszyn (18/08/2015, 09:33) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    TD Jakes...FREEDOM, the Overarching System (the ‘god of fortresses’?) that Protects Unique Nuances.

    Mr. Jakes recently stated …
    ..."...Once you begin to understand that democracy, that a republic actually, is designed to be an overarching system to protect our unique nuances, then we no longer look to public policy to reflect biblical ethics."
    ..."The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don't like those convictions and values and you totally disagree with it, don't try to change my house, move into your own ... and find somebody who gets what you get about faith."

    It is clear that Mr. Jakes believes in, defends, and glorifies the righteousness of FREEDOM of Self-Rights….which in this discussion revolves around freedom of sexual lifestyle and religious freedom.

    He has very clearly justified in his eyes the “goodness” of the democratic (self-ruling) system, outlining that it acts as the “overarching system”, ie the authority above all other authorities, that protects the nuances , the differences in the variety and preferences of personal beliefs, whether they be sexual or religious.

    In other words, this “ overarching” acts as the ‘god of (above) all fortresses’.

    It is written in Daniel, that the last king of the north will glorify and advance his “god of fortresses”.

    What is the one belief, amongst all nations, peoples, religions, lifestyles, that is common to all?
    What one belief is embraced, desired, and glorified by the small and the great, by the rich and the poor, by the free (employers) and by the bondmen ( employees)?
    What is the one belief that is marked as a sign of allegiance on everyone’s forehead and hand?

    Is it not the love for FREEDOM...for freedom of self-rights, freedom of self-religion, freedom of self-happiness, freedom of sexual lifestyle?

    Mr. Jakes has clearly shown that he places this FREEDOM as the overarching way of life above all other beliefs, thus subsequently placing the Son of the One Creator, the Lord Jesus Christ, below this “FREEDOM” and consequentially categorizing HIM to be of EQUAL validity to ‘other gods’.

    This FREEDOM dictates that it is RIGHT, a right, to be free to worship ANY ‘god’ as per one’s self-justified desires, establishing this to be “good” in one’s own eyes.

    BUT the One Creator said that man is not to worship any other gods. In other words HE said that man is NOT FREE to worship other gods, warning man that if he were to do so the judgement and penalty for this taken-freedom, for this disobedience, would be death.

    The Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the One Creator, said the we are to worship ONLY the One Lord your Creator God and HIM Alone to serve in obedience and love, love for HIM first and foremost and love for, to do GOOD according to the One True Way, to the fellow man.

    Very soon, the Lord Jesus Christ will return, as a thief in man’s eyes, to rule the earth in obedience and power as the ONE KING according to the Will of ‘I AM’ and NOT according to man’s first love for “his overarching freedom “, for his desire to serve and magnify oneself (XES).
    ...and man will weep and clench his teeth in intense anger when his freedom will be no more
    ...and the Lord Jesus Christ will say, to those that hypocritically and theologically claim “biblical ethics” in His Name, that “ I do not know you, workers of lawlessness”.

    The Lord Jesus Christ said to repent and to serve Only Him, for He is the One True Way of Life.
  • Maverick (20/08/2015, 00:01) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    An obvious buffoon: What is his AIM? Is it selling his book? I think so, it's all about greens not winning souls for God, but what will it profit him to gain the world and lose his soul?

    Romans 1:25-28 ESV

    Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
  • Giantslayer (09/09/2016, 09:50) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Affirm person, not lifestyle. TO will be judged for his politically correct comment.

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