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Paying tithes brings benefits like 'unlimited access to heaven' - Apostle Fahie

- During Real Talk show, said tithing is a tax to receive rewards from the 'Kingdom of God'
Remarking that every kingdom needs finances to function such as that of the Government of the Virgin Islands, Apostle Curnal P. Fahie says the church and by extension, the Kingdom of God is no different. Photo: Facebook
Apostle Fahie, a former Progressive Virgin Islands Movement (PVIM) 2019 candidate on their elections slate was at the time speaking on the February 19, 2020, premiere of Karia J. Christopher's 'Real Talk' television show along with guest Pastor Calvin Mills. Photo: Facebook/File
Apostle Fahie, a former Progressive Virgin Islands Movement (PVIM) 2019 candidate on their elections slate was at the time speaking on the February 19, 2020, premiere of Karia J. Christopher's 'Real Talk' television show along with guest Pastor Calvin Mills. Photo: Facebook/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI - Remarking that every 'kingdom' needs finances to function, such as that of the Government of the Virgin Islands, Apostle Curnal P. Fahie says the institution of the church and by extension, the 'Kingdom of God' is no different.

“The Government of the BVI… they are a Kingdom, they need finances so they take our taxes, we give Social Security, we give NHI, and because we give those things we get benefits… the same thing it is in God’s Kingdom.”

Apostle Fahie, a former Progressive Virgin Islands Movement (PVIM) 2019 candidate at the February 2019 elections, was at the time speaking on the February 19, 2020, premiere of Karia J. Christopher's 'Real Talk' television show, along with guest Pastor Calvin K. Mills.

Gaining access to heaven

According to the Apostle, when you give into God’s Kingdom, you get benefits similar to how you would get from paying taxes to government.

“Your tithe is your tax in the Kingdom of God that gives you benefits and access to heaven unlimited,” he said.

Recalling instances in the Bible where persons such as Abel paid tithes, he said they received blessings and in the instance of Abel, which resulted in the jealously of his brother Cain. 

'Go ahead & be jealous' - Apostle Fahie 

He encouraged persons to continue paying tithes to see blessing regardless of who gets jealous, “Go ahead and be jealous, I’m going to keep giving my tithe,” he said.

Apostle Fahie's comment came on the heels of another controversial comment from Pastor Mills, who remarked in the same episode of the show that if someone believes in God, they will give 10% tithes to the church.

Meanwhile, Real Talk will air on FLOW TV on Wednesdays at 8:00 pm and shortly after can be seen on the Facebook page, Real Talk with Karia Christopher.

56 Responses to “Paying tithes brings benefits like 'unlimited access to heaven' - Apostle Fahie”

  • lord o. (24/02/2020, 12:14) Like (23) Dislike (6) Reply
    What kind of ring is that.? Believe in the God you so believing to protect you.... Why seek protection in others. .. Not surprise with these fakes defending paying tides. That's how they make their living. I fully understand, though I disagree. I think it's an ancient scamming mechanism....
  • ... (24/02/2020, 12:16) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    you hear thing!
  • ? (24/02/2020, 12:19) Like (29) Dislike (7) Reply
    Sir, you belong in the fifteenth-century. Nobody falls for that ridiculousness anymore.
    • Fran (26/02/2020, 09:29) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      I don't go to Church. Was taken to church every week by my mother. As a grownup, they are still preaching the same things. Well, I have learned all that I need to know, so if adults don't get it now, they haven't learned anything. I now invest my money in mutual funds, savings etc. so that I can live as a independent adult. My home is paid for and I am comfortable. I do good deeds as far as helping in the community. If that is not enough for the Pastors, too bad. I was made to feel bad when I made my decision to leave the institution, but not anymore. It is mind control that I have taken back. Thank you.
  • Come On! (24/02/2020, 12:23) Like (20) Dislike (7) Reply
    This isn't news...
    Ya'll just trying to make him look bad and start controversy!
  • Something to think about. (24/02/2020, 12:24) Like (62) Dislike (6) Reply
    I must say that I do not pay tithes because it gives me “benefits and access to heaven unlimited”. I have access to God’s unlimited resources because of the Word of the Lord.

    I do, however, pay tithes because it is my way of saying that I acknowledge you Lord as my Provider and thank You for blessing me in the first place and I give back to You the first fruit of my income which You have first given to me or enabled me to obtain.

    Genesis 14:20 says - 20 and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” 21. Then Abram gave one tenth of everything to Melchizedek. You will notice Abram got blessed first then he gave to Melchizedek.

    It is not you give to get ; it is you give because you have been given.

    Do I believe that one should pay tithes? Yes, I do believe that one should pay tithes for the reason stated above and I do not intend to sound facetious but I notice when I pay my tithes my money gets an unusual “elasticity”,(if I may say) that I am able to get more done with a small sums of money as opposed to when I do not pay and my salary literally vanishes with nothing to show for it.
    • Yes! Thank YOU (24/02/2020, 13:37) Like (41) Dislike (6) Reply
      Amen. We have access to God because of Jesus. The Bible said we are seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus!!! No tithe can get you there. What happens to those who are unemployed and do have any money to give? Does that mean they lose access to God for that month until they can pay again??? NO!! It is only through Jesus and Him alone.
    • VIslander (24/02/2020, 13:56) Like (8) Dislike (3) Reply
      I couldn't have said this any better myself.
  • lmfao (24/02/2020, 12:33) Like (27) Dislike (4) Reply

    You have got go be f**king kidding me.

  • @_@ (24/02/2020, 12:34) Like (24) Dislike (6) Reply
    this man sick in he head, if God and Haven are spiritual things then why they need physical money, churches are the biggest CON GAME ever, stop paying and going to these unholy places and invest your money wisely.

    matter of fact it would be better to pay the devil to get blessing them pay god as the devil seems to have a lot more success, but in hind sight these pasters look like they all are the devils bitter ex-wifes trying to what alimony they can.
    some of you have put over 20k into pasters pockets and for over 20yrs have not seen one blessing that have you in a better position in life but yet you watch the paster buy big ride and build big house and you still trying hold up under 2 tooth picks. you is ah MS or what, but i digress, you fools going continue to do as your parents and gran parents have done that has keept your entire family n financial struggle for generations. so continue and make bad financial choices and see if God studying ayo with you Muckery.

  • Jack I tell yo (24/02/2020, 12:41) Like (22) Dislike (3) Reply
    Boy yo could hear things....Something got to be done with these con-men of the cloth
  • WHAT!!! (24/02/2020, 13:14) Like (18) Dislike (2) Reply
    So , buy your way into the “kingdom of heaven” what a load of B.S.
  • Unlimited access (24/02/2020, 13:15) Like (26) Dislike (1) Reply
    Is this a data plan??? Just 10% of your pay each month and you can enjoy unlimited access to heaven
  • I will say it (24/02/2020, 13:25) Like (25) Dislike (1) Reply

    You pastors are nothing more than ********. Always begging and conning the poor people out of ever little bit they have. I remember when I use to go to church with my grandmother and when the collection plate was passed around, you put what you could afford be it a penny or a dime. All you pastors do is suck off the poor and helpless people so you can drive around in expensive cars, live in big house, take vacations. The same poor people that is lining you pastors pockets you would not lift a finger to help when they are in need. BOY PLEASE!!!!!!

  • The Eye (24/02/2020, 14:00) Like (11) Dislike (3) Reply
    The sad thing about these some of these pastors is they want to live their heaven right here on earth with their doctrine with no evidence.

    We know the truth is you will die and your body is committed to the earth in this life so logic should tell everyone that your soul just like it is committed to your mind will go somewhere else base on your belief. The fire in hell and the heaven in the sky is all fake.

    Search for light and stop letting these pastors manipulate your minds. Also do not let these masons control your lifestyle. Those are the politicians who look out for their brotherhood.

    I will be back with more to enlighten your mind with the truth.
  • Hotter (24/02/2020, 14:06) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
    Where in the bible indicated that God say you should give tithes to the church? That 1/10 was between Abraham meeting with Melchizedek who was the priest of the Most High, it had nothing to do with God period. And didn't the bible teaches you that your body which is the temple of God is the church. Access to heaven, these are false prophets as JEREMIAH SAID in chapeter 23 : Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

    2Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
  • usa (24/02/2020, 14:25) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
    The 10% that each member is asked to give is lining the pockets of the con pastors. They got them here also. The con pastors is driving the big expensive cars and SUV’s, living in large homes, their wives is in the expensive fur coats and the lavish vacations. Mean while, the people who is giving their 10% can hardly eat or meet their monthly bills. The same people go to the con pastors for help and the con pastors will tell the people to go to the WELFARE SYSTEM for help.
  • The TRUTH (24/02/2020, 14:39) Like (18) Dislike (2) Reply
    religion is a business!!!!!you have to go to collage to become a pastor !!!my people wake up !!!!!!!!
    • Observer (24/02/2020, 19:39) Like (3) Dislike (6) Reply
      Most people commenting don't even go to Church. This is a basic principle. The bible says in Mwlachi 4 that we should bring the tithes into the storehouse that their maybe meat in my house and prove me and see if I will not open the windows of heaven and pour out a blessing that you have not room to receive. Jesus calls the church my Fathers business. Carnal people cannot understand spiritual matters. Just like those of old crucified Jesus for saying heavenly things so does the world try to chastise these men of God. Do not judge for the same judgement you give will come back to you.
      • got that right (25/02/2020, 07:35) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
        You should read the bible and see what tithes were really for, it was gor the levites, Fatherless and widows and it was food. Don’t forget there was only one ‘church’... move along.
      • No (25/02/2020, 23:44) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
        You are missing the point. He is saying you only receive access to God when you tithe. That’s a lie! Where in the Bible does it says this? So if I don’t tithe God will forsake me when I pray? There are some benefits to tithing but access to God is not one of them. Sound like he is saying pay to pray.
  • True (24/02/2020, 14:42) Like (17) Dislike (2) Reply

    Anybody else would be in PRISON. the sh*t this man says

  • wow... (24/02/2020, 15:00) Like (10) Dislike (9) Reply
    Anyone attending this man's church should stop going there. He will lead them all to damnation.

    This man is blatantly making promises of the blessings of God using methods that contradict the teachings of God.

    Talk about a false prophet.
  • Someone sang about it (24/02/2020, 15:02) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    Money money money!
  • my question (24/02/2020, 15:10) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
    To be honest, I have no problem with the concept of tithing - giving back the first seeds of your blessings... but my question is this: Where does the money go????? Can we talk about the management of tithes and offerings and whats more, the service of the church to our communities at large? Let's be real, it's not monopoly money that people are tithing. The money is real. God expects for this real money to be used for real good. We're not talking enough about that part.
  • Honest Question (24/02/2020, 15:35) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
    Do churches provide their members with financial reports so that they know where their money is going?
  • utter bs (24/02/2020, 15:36) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
    Stop teach people nonsense. In essence if I can’t pay tithes, I’m doomed to hell?

    Only rich people go to heaven?

    I live in heaven right here on earth. I make my own heaven. I go through some hell now and then right here on earth. It’s all a state of mind.

    Your Bible aka Helios Biblios has been tainted by your oppressors kind sir.
  • Study the Word for Yourself (24/02/2020, 16:04) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
    7 Reasons Christians Are Not Required to Tithe

    Many think believers in Christ should tithe (defined as giving 10 percent of one’s income), and many use the language of “tithes and offerings” in worship services. Others are equally convinced tithing is not required for believers.

    Which view is more faithful to God’s Word?

    This certainly isn’t a matter over which believers should break fellowship. Love is far more important than our view on tithing (1 Cor. 13). Still, I would argue tithing isn’t required or even encouraged for believers in Jesus Christ. But such a stance needs to be explained.

    Tithing in the Old Testament

    What does the Old Testament say about tithing? Abraham gave a tenth of his spoils of war to Melchizedek (Gen. 14:20), and Hebrews appeals to this account to support the superiority of Melchizedek’s priesthood over Levi’s (Heb. 7:4–10). God met Jacob at Bethel and promised him covenant blessings; the patriarch promised God a tenth of everything granted him (Gen. 28:22).

    A tenth of Israel’s seed, fruit, and flocks were given to the Lord (Lev. 27:30–32; Deut. 14:22–24; cf. 2 Chron. 31:5–6; Neh. 13:5, 12). The people gave a tenth to the Levites to support them (Num. 18:21–24; cf. Neh. 10:38; 12:44), and the Levites, in turn, were to give a tenth to the chief priest (Num. 18:25–28). Those who didn’t tithe were threatened with a curse, while those who did tithe were promised blessing (Mal. 3:8–10).

    Though we might assume Old Testament Israel gave a total of 10 percent, it’s actually difficult to discern how much was given. We can’t linger over details in this short article, but some think the Israelites gave 14 tithes over seven years; others believe they gave 12. Regardless, when we add the required tithes together, the amount certainly exceeded 10 percent. In fact, the number was probably somewhere around 20 percent per year.

    Why Tithing Is Not Required Today

    There are seven decisive reasons for saying Christians are not required to tithe.

    1. Believers are no longer under the Mosaic covenant (Rom. 6:14–15; 7:5–6; Gal. 3:15–4:7; 2 Cor. 3:4–18). 
    The commands stipulated in the Mosaic covenant are no longer in force for believers. Some appeal to the division between the civil, ceremonial, and moral law to support tithing. Yet these divisions, I would observe, are not the basis Paul uses when addressing how the law applies to us today. And even if we use these distinctions, tithing is clearly not part of the moral law. It’s true the moral norms of the Old Testament are still in force today, and we discern them from the law of Christ in the New Testament, but tithing is not among these commands.

    2. The examples of Abraham and Jacob are not normative patterns. 
    Some think tithing is required because both Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth, and they both lived before the Mosaic covenant was in place. Such examples hardly prove tithing is for all time, however. Abraham’s gift to Melchizedek was a one-time event; there is no evidence he regularly gave God a tenth.
    Jacob’s giving of a tenth signified his gratefulness to God for promising to be with him and to protect him. His gratefulness and generosity still speak to us today, but a historical description of what Jacob gave doesn’t support the idea that all believers must give God a tenth of their income.

    3. Tithes were given to the Levites and priests, but there are no Levites and priests in the new covenant. 
    Levites and priests were tied to the sacrificial system of the old covenant. Now all believers are priests (1 Pet. 2:9; Rev. 1:6; 5:10; 20:6), with Jesus as our Melchizedekian high priest (Heb. 7).

    4. The tithe is tied to the land Israel received under the old covenant. 
    Israel was supposed to celebrate a tithe every three years in Jerusalem. But that requirement cannot apply to Christians today. It related to the Jews as a nation—to Jews who lived in the land of promise. With the coming of Christ, the Jewish nation is no longer the locus of God’s people, though individual Jews are part of the church through faith in Jesus.

    The earthly Jerusalem is no longer central in God’s purposes (Gal. 4:25). Believers are part of the heavenly Jerusalem (Gal. 4:26) and look forward to the city to come (Heb. 11:10), to the new heavens and new earth (Rev. 21:1–22:5). Abraham isn’t heir of the land of Israel, but of the whole world (Rom. 4:13).

    5. If tithing is required today, how much should we give? 

    As noted above, the number was certainly more than 10 percent and closer to 20 percent. Those who advocate tithing should probably settle on 20 percent.

    6. When Jesus affirmed the tithe, it was before the dawn of the new covenant.

    Some defend tithing by saying Jesus praised tithing, even if he said it was less important than other things (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42). This argument appears strong, but it’s not persuasive. Jesus also mentioned offering sacrifices in the temple (Matt. 5:23–24), but Christians don’t think—even if the temple were rebuilt—that we should do that. Our Lord’s words are understandable when we think about his location in redemptive history.

    Jesus spoke about sacrifices and tithing before the cross and resurrection, before the dawn of the new covenant. He used tithing and sacrifices as illustrations when addressing his contemporaries. He kept the law since he was “born under the law” (Gal. 4:4). But we can no more take his words as a commendation for tithing today than we can his words about offering sacrifices.

    7. Nowhere is tithing mentioned when commands to give generously are found in the New Testament. 

    When Christians are instructed to give to the poor, they aren’t commanded to give “the poor tithe.” Instead, they are instructed to be generous in helping those in need (Acts 2:43–47; 4:32–37; 11:27–30; Gal. 2:10; 1 Cor. 16:1–4; 2 Cor. 8:1–9:15). For example, 1 Corinthians 16:1–4—a passage often cited in popular circles in support—doesn’t mention tithing; it relates to a one-time gift for poor saints in Jerusalem.

    Give Generously

    Even though tithing isn’t required today, it does not follow that believers should hoard their possessions.
    We are commanded to support those who preach the gospel (Matt. 10:10; Luke 10:7; 1 Cor. 9:6–14; 1 Tim. 5:17–18). And while we should enjoy the good things God gives us, we are also called to be generous to those in need (1 Tim. 6:17–19; 2 Cor. 8–9). Wealth can so easily become an idol, leading us to abandon the Lord.

    Since God is to be our treasure, believers are to give generously and freely. For many in the West, this will mean giving more than 10 percent.

    Still, Scripture doesn’t command Christians to give a tenth—and Scripture, not tradition, is our rule and authority.
  • Concerned 1 (24/02/2020, 16:08) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    The bible said that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of good. This means that your earthly belongings are not important in the eyes of the lord, so stop talking foolishness and trying to convince people that they must pay tithes to enjoy the blessing of God.
  • Florida Water (24/02/2020, 17:00) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
    One day when they are up there preaching, don’t be surprised if they start getting licked down by some mysterious forces from the pulpit. Dash some holy water and watch how fast these so call con men pastors will take off running.
  • Sick (24/02/2020, 17:58) Like (9) Dislike (4) Reply
    Unless he can prove his claim this is nothing but fraud and theft. Lock him up
  • Tax the churches (24/02/2020, 18:44) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    The churches should be taxed on their income.
  • HAHA (24/02/2020, 19:15) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
    You pay tithes, the pastor will drive a Benz and own a mansion while some of the members of the congregation have to catch a ride or the church bus and pay rent. The pastor always dressed nicely in church every week but he dont know how hard some of the members have it to buy clothes just to attend. The church need to donate to FSN, Sandy Lane and other social clubs.
  • River Jordan (24/02/2020, 19:39) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    No, Mr. Cline. We are not jealous of you for following the prosperity gospel of our oppressors. Their heaven and wealth is here and now, but their destiny is judgement. 1 Corinthians 6:2 "Do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world?...."

    These are descendants of the same people that taught our ancestors from a slave bible. They continue to justify the behavior of their ancestors. We must utterly reject ALL of their biblical doctrines and interpretations, my brother.
  • Observer (24/02/2020, 19:44) Like (21) Dislike (2) Reply
    In addition these men of God have helped their communities ten times over. The minority does not speak for the majority. Do not judge that which you do not understand.
  • Observer (24/02/2020, 20:11) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    The promises that he is referring to is Malachi 4 and Luke 6:38 to name a few. Don't blame him blame the scriptures and God.
  • Eagle Eye (24/02/2020, 20:18) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    You and Mills think we are living in 1910. Y'all hold hands and jump of the cruise peir from misleading the youths.
  • Oh My! (24/02/2020, 20:30) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    I, too, understand why a lot people on here might feel that way. However, I feel that we are to try every spirit because not every spirit is from God, which applies to Pastors as well, just as they try the spirit of members of the church. I honestly feel very bamboozled when Pastors make false claims that if you pay this amount of money heaven will open up. I especially hate when they stand in church and behave like it is an auction (let me see those who can sow a seed of $100 or $500) when God's love and mercy is free. Not to say that God doesn't call to us individually to offer a monetary sacrifice, but like my husband puts it, the Lord not the Pastor is going to lay it on your heart. In other words, before you went to church, the Lord would have already told you what amount to sacrifice and the pastor would perhaps confirm it. I also don't like to see members of a church taken advantage of where you have the Pastor jet setting around the world at the cost of the congregation. I believe that Pastors and wives are to move with wisdom and empathy recognizing that not every one's pockets are deep and stop seeing the dollar signs!!! It is so embarrassing when a pastor can talk from the pulpit about what his members have. This tells me that you have no concern for the things of heaven, but living a lifestyle off the backs of your congregation. And, the Lord will judge you. Pastors these days, at least some of them, have no shame. Then the congregation has to pay for you and your wife's lifestyle? No good. Let's just be mindful of how we come across to other church members and especially the world because these postings on here tell me that we as a church are not doing well when we are being called thieves and con artists; we shame the name of Christ. Christ never charged anyone any money for his blessings. As a matter of fact. When Jesus had to pay his taxes, he asked the disciple to catch a fish and when they obeyed, they found the tax money in the mouth of the fish. In the old testament when one of Elisha's servants received money for the miracle performed he was struck with leprosy. What does that tell us? That Jesus' love and blessings can never be bought! Period. Went to a church and after such a powerful move of the holy spirit, the Pastor comments that we should give extra because the Lord moved. No, we can never buy the Holy Spirit. He doesn't need our money. I did go to a church and they spoke on tithing, and I loved what they said: If you ever feel pressured to give, it is NOT God, but man. Don't give at that point because God loves a cheerful giver. God speaks in a calm reassuring way. So I do give my 10%, and offering, and wait on the Lord to lay on my heart when he wants me to make a sacrificial offering and where he wants me to make the sacrificial offering. Peace & Blessing to you all!
  • randy (24/02/2020, 21:32) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    ''true peace can only be achieved when the last priest is strangled by the intestines of the last king''.......i think the guy who coined that phrase was being figurative and not literal but at the same time trying to say that organized religion and the monarchy are the two absolute worst things mankind who coined that phrase was Denis Diderot[1713-1784]...french atheist.
  • reality (24/02/2020, 23:53) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
    This is just about the dummest s@$t I've heard in a long time!!! The sad part is.......they're people out there who actually fall for this crap. Really???? Do these so called religious hypocrites really think that "God" cares about money, something that was created by man, and is the root of all evil!!!! You guys really know how to twist and turn things around to try and justify the greed for more of the peoples hard earn money.....GET A REAL JOB!!!
  • marco (25/02/2020, 02:53) Like (5) Dislike (4) Reply
    Clearly those who posted negative comments are no believers or members of the body of Christ. Having watched the talk show I am surprised that the media chose tithing as a topic of its headline when it could have any chosen any of the issues discussed. I think the many negative comments shows how far we are from God in this little territory of ours. I recall after hurricane Irma struck everyone was talking about the territory needing to turn to God. Yet all I see is a people that appears to have turned even further away from God. I wonder if another Irma will make a difference? Christians who pay their tithes do so because they appreciate God’s goodness knowing that He is the source of their strength and seeing the blessings of God on their lives. Like I said earlier, those who are against paying tithes are clearly not Christians and are far away from God. Remember people, another hurricane season is around the corner. Let those of us that pray, pray that God spare the territory and keep us all safe through the hurricane season.
  • Stay Woke (25/02/2020, 07:06) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
    If Money The Root Of All Evil Why Do They Ask For It In Church.
  • OMG (25/02/2020, 07:50) Like (10) Dislike (1) Reply
    Pay so he can create his own little heaven on earth at your expense
  • GG (25/02/2020, 11:13) Like (1) Dislike (6) Reply
    I am a BVI Islander and I am so saddened to see the level of hatred directed at pastors and churches. Whilst I may or may not agree with the specific view of one pastor or another, we as BVI Islanders were taught and raised to have respect for others and especially for things of God. The very persons who viciously attack churches and pastors go to the same churches for weddings and to pay respect to their loved ones. Have you ever stopped to think about what force wakes you up in the morning and keeps you safe during the course of the day? It looks like we are truly going down a sad road as a community and becoming filled with more hate, disrespect and intolerance than I have ever seen in our history. Even if want to treat that as karma - bad attitudes and disrespect does not breed good things guys. Please stop the nasty attitudes and look within - we were not put here on this earth by ourselves - think for one moment if God turns out to be real. How would you face him- with the rudeness and nasty attitudes that you exhibited - if you don't wake up one day? Just think about that. As I said I may or may not agree on the tithing issue, but that gives me no right to be rude and disrespectful. BVI people let's not forget our roots of being descent people and please take the time to speak to our children about the qualities that made our nation great.
    • @wow (26/02/2020, 16:23) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      We are angry at the pastors for exploiting our fellow BVIslanders. We speak out against them because we have taken off our rose tinted glasses and we can see that this is not right. We are speaking out through love for people. Unfortunately I think the sad road we are going down as a community is one where we are allowing the exploitation of the masses by a few all in the name of God. Intelligent people are indoctrinated to follow blindly out of fear of not making it to heaven (coincidentally there is a similar tactic being used in the middle east to recruit suicide bombers, and a similar tactic was used throughout the holocaust, but when God is the reason it is right?) When a man can watch another (who he says he loves) struggle paycheck to paycheck and still demand 10% of each paycheck for himself and then scoff at the small amount he has been given, is this God's intention? You are correct. It is not right to be rude and disrespectful. But stealing is not right. Exploitation is not right. Lying is not right. Corruption is not right.
  • Wrong Doctrine (25/02/2020, 11:30) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    This is the False Doctrine that is being used by most modern churches to force their followers to tithe every month.Tithing was ONLY compulsory for the Israelites in the Old Testament as part of the Law of the land. It was paid in livestock, crops n herbs etc even though money was available.

    In the Church Age (now) we are encouraged to Give from the heart with no limitation:

    2Cor 9:6 Consider this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not out of regret or compulsion. For “God loves a cheerful giver.”…
  • shark (25/02/2020, 20:46) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    As long as you can brain wash and mislead people you always have the advantage.
  • Hold On... (26/02/2020, 10:44) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    This is the height of bullshit. You mean to tell me I can be an a*****e and gain ALL the blessings of heaven so long as I pay my 10%? And aya going tell me these ain't con man? Wa kinda tomfoolery is this?!? These man basically here telling people no matter your circumstances in this word, give your money to the church. My biggest problem with the church is they DO NOT contribute to the communities. All the social issues going on with members of the church and non members alike, issues that the church can help alleviate with the amount of money they STEAL on a weekly basis, they DO NOT!

    SO DON'T COME WITH THIS HORSE SHIT THAT PPL NEED TO GIVE 10% OF THEIR MONEY TO THE CHURCH. FOH!! This shit got me so mad I can't even articulate my damn thoughts properly. I hate this shit.
    • Billfargo hi no (26/02/2020, 23:03) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Needs to give him free room and board up on the hill as a guest at HM Prison..........
  • Unbelievable (26/02/2020, 16:09) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    People suffer to meet the demands of these pastors. I can GUARANTEE that the bible does not state 10% ANYWHERE. This is a greed thing. As said above, these pastors are driving expensive cars, living in mansions, all paid for by their congregation. Next time you are in church, just think where your 10% is going. Just think how you are treated when you don't pay your 10%. Just think how these people (because they are just people, in no way divine) are willing to take the money you work for and spend it on their lifestyles. And they do this with no remorse and call God's name as if this was his will or intention. This was not his will or intention. Also, have you ever thought that the very people telling you the Tithes are necessary have never actually paid them. Is collecting Tithes their pathway to heaven? In society today these Tithes are not being used as they were intended. They are not giving back to the community. They are being used so that the 'pastors' can live a better lifestyle with more disposable income than 95% of their congregation. And the other 5%, the ones who have more money than the pastor takes from his congregation, they are the ones the pastors rub shoulders with in their spare time, those are the people he deems fit to spend his days with outside of work. 99% of them do not pay their 10% and would never be asked for it. Think about it. Do unto others as you would have them do to you. Live your life this way. Don't feel obliged to give someone else your hard earned money because they are telling you that is what GOD wants.
  • RealTalk (27/02/2020, 14:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Pimps in the pulpit.
  • Interested (28/02/2020, 13:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Real Christians return their tithes and give a freewill offering besides. The end
  • Truth be told . (29/02/2020, 07:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    The only job the Lord Jesus Christ gave us the only job description the mandate we who are led by and is fill by his spirit we who are sons of God is too win souls .thats why when he sent them out his disciples he said to them take no purse or wallets take no thoughts about what you may eat drink are wear for tomorrow let me (Jesus who is God worry about that your job is to do what i tells you to do , don't move or shift from this foundation no matter what ,if we look and study the word we seen how he provided for his people, but if you are not sent and led by God, ,,,,,,,,(,you went )well of course you have to find ways to survive and many of these big bran name preachers and churches are just after persons hard earn sweat money , you can't pay for your healing deliverance salvation its a free gift given and was already payed for by God, these are just distraction from the job that we should be doing

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