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No singing 'God save the Queen' outside protocols - Skelton-Cline

- Further lambasts HoA for two pre-written prayers for Queen
'Honestly Speaking' radio show host, Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline says it continues to be baffling why 'God save the Queen' is being sung during Assemblies at the Elmore Stoutt High School (ESHS), and this he says highlights a colonial mindset. Photo: File
Commentator Claude O. Skelton-Cline in turning his attention to a recent sitting in the Virgin Islands House of Assembly (HoA) said that at the Tuesday, November 19, 2019, session, two prayers during the opening of the house was in support of the Queen. Photo: VINO/File
Commentator Claude O. Skelton-Cline in turning his attention to a recent sitting in the Virgin Islands House of Assembly (HoA) said that at the Tuesday, November 19, 2019, session, two prayers during the opening of the house was in support of the Queen. Photo: VINO/File
BAUGHERS BAY, Tortola, VI - Noting that the National Anthem should only be sung or played in the presence of the Queen's Representative, ZBVI 780 'Honestly Speaking' radio show host Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline says it continues to be baffling why 'God Save The Queen' is being sung during assemblies at the Elmore Stoutt High School (ESHS). This practice, he said, highlights a colonial mindset.

"I even went a step further to see if students, school children in the UK, if they do this... and based upon my research, it doesn't happen there," he said.

Mr Skelton-Cline was at the time making his opening commentary on the November 19, 2019, edition of his show, 'Honestly Speaking', where he also lambasted the Virgin Islands House of Assembly (HoA) for having pre-written prayers for the queen during the opening of the House.

The local commentator said schools need to be promoting the Territorial Song, "and the celebration of our people and their journey, our journey and our culture that's what we need to continue to highlight."

According to Mr Skelton-Cline, singing the anthem is a form of indoctrination that send deeps messages. "We oftentimes find ourselves doing things that just seem to be ceremonial without outstanding the impact."

He continued, "I am making a big deal out of it because it just seems to me that we need not be singing the National Anthem outside the requisite protocols."

According to the man of the cloth, the Territory needs to be having serious conversations about "who we are as a people."

HoA Prayers for Queen 

Skelton-Cline also noted that at the Tuesday, November 19, 2019 Sitting of the House of Assembly (HoA), two prayers during the opening of the House was in support of the Queen.

"I had to open my eyes... here is it that we are praying in the House of Assembly, and the prayers that is being offered is not for the Premier, not for the country, not for the people...  but two prayers being lifted up in the name of the Queen."

"There was something troubling about it in my spirit," he said.

According to Skelton-Cline, there is now a need for the removal of 'colonial residue' from within the territory, including the eradication of an enslaved mindset he said some still carry.

29 Responses to “No singing 'God save the Queen' outside protocols - Skelton-Cline”

  • Eagle Eye (20/11/2019, 13:40) Like (30) Dislike (10) Reply
    Only now your eyes is being open.the same goes to the bible what the colonial masters give us.oh and the columbus teachings to.
    • huh (20/11/2019, 16:57) Like (47) Dislike (0) Reply
      Make a lot of distracting noise, and hopefully nobody will ask about the overdue report that was due at the end of the 6 month ($16k a month) consultancy, or ask whether it has been renewed!!!
    • look (20/11/2019, 18:29) Like (5) Dislike (14) Reply
      I’m tired of you people... You people who think you know anything but don’t... Yes the bible is corrupt ,yes they changed names and we shouldn’t translate names because we don’t now. Yes they keep removing books but don’t let that make you turn to this Egyptian mentality a lot of you want to develop... I am gonna say this one time for the ignorant.. The dark skin people that went through slavery those in the Caribbean and the US are the scriptural Hebrews.. Free your minds from sounding stupid.. What you need to do is find a 1611 kjv bible and then do some in-depth studies into who the true people are..start with from Babylon to Timbuktu. That land over there with the fakes should not be inhabited if they were true. Further more let me just enlighten you... Your creator’s name is Yahuah and Yahusha is the son. That is in the hebrew language.. Yes it can get confusing but one way to solve that; go and read man... You all wanna go be obeah men and women so bad.... I done talk cause yall lost( mind somewhere in the depths of sheol) .
  • Jamie (20/11/2019, 13:40) Like (39) Dislike (6) Reply
    this man need to learn to stop talking
  • hez (20/11/2019, 14:08) Like (16) Dislike (4) Reply
    out of order
  • the groove governor (20/11/2019, 14:12) Like (9) Dislike (7) Reply
    Very significant point !!!! colonial mindset.....The dollar bill, the ruling and destruction of this nation/country...I might not be around but TRUST ME !!!
  • Most definitely (20/11/2019, 14:37) Like (7) Dislike (5) Reply
    @Eagle Eye, you couldn’t have said it better! High time they realize and shed some much needed light on this whole State of the Culture of the BVI and address the Colonial Mindset indeed
  • Dulce (20/11/2019, 14:48) Like (2) Dislike (3) Reply
    Well sah..did not know this was the state no sah. Time long past to set things in their proper order.
  • Charley Rose (20/11/2019, 15:35) Like (17) Dislike (1) Reply
    I will not be drawn into the debate of the acknowledgement of the Queen as the Sovereign Head of the British Colonies of which the Virgin Islands is one of such colonies. There are some international protocols that should be respected and certain National symbols that should be respected. We have the National Anthem, national Flag, the Judiciary and the House of Assembly to name a few.

    I want to be abundantly clear that so long as we are under the Monarchy we need to be diplomatic and whenever we are making statements such as what Claud said. I can excuse him because perhaps he did not have the fundamentals of the Constitution. I wonder if many people are aware that burning the national flag of a country is an act of treason and such offence are punishable by imprisonment.
  • I man I (20/11/2019, 16:32) Like (20) Dislike (4) Reply
    @ Charley Rose, punishable by imprisonment? You mean punishable by death. Anyways I totally agree with you. I was listening to Claude yesterday and I find his statements to be totally out of order, disrespectful and offensive. As you said the Queen is the head of state represented by the Governor and I see no issues at all with the Anthem been sing in schools. The National song is equally important to our culture but should never be placed above the Anthem. I think Claude should very well know better.
  • tola (20/11/2019, 17:02) Like (8) Dislike (16) Reply
    I totally agree with Claude.
  • Godsaveus (20/11/2019, 18:14) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
    It's true and this should definitely be fixed but I feel we arent ready yet...
  • musa (20/11/2019, 18:51) Like (11) Dislike (3) Reply
    Useless news
  • 60% (20/11/2019, 20:15) Like (13) Dislike (0) Reply
    60% of the population are from abroad. Most of the skilled private sector work is done by these foreigners. The BVI is a Territory of the UK. If the BVI wants independence it can go for it. Then it can stop singing God Save the Queen if it wants to; although it will probably still be in the Commonwealth with the Queen as Head of State. A non point to distract from the real issues.
    • Bell dat cat (20/11/2019, 22:13) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      I hope the office of our leader writes him a letter like how they wrote cindy. For his contract falls under him.
  • Dread & Terrible (20/11/2019, 21:56) Like (1) Dislike (8) Reply
    Shouldn’t be singing it PERIOD! When all is said and done, we are only pawns in their game, ignorantly bearing their name. Have we really sat down as a Territory and analyzed this song? It is LITERALLY chants of colonization and corruption of governments hidden behind a melodic tune and this shallow idea of GOD that many of us bear. Our forefathers must be rolling non-stop in their graves.
  • Ok. (20/11/2019, 22:01) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
    Claude is the culture police now?
  • Tom Jackson (20/11/2019, 22:21) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
    The man has a point.
  • Consultation (20/11/2019, 23:30) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    is this what them paying you for??
  • nonsense (21/11/2019, 09:28) Like (0) Dislike (3) Reply
    I realise that most persons are missing the point of what skelton-cline is saying. I often ask the question why is the queen's song being sung in school. what is the significance behind it. Why is is sung in the House of Assembly. and he is so correct no school in the UK sings the queens song during assembly as the queen or any of her representatives are present. Fix it Jesus only you can
  • Jaigon (21/11/2019, 10:43) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    @ nonsense, so what makes you feel that you are the most intelligent that most others are missing the point while you have it all down pack. The national anthem, like other national symbols of a country, represents the tradition, history, and beliefs of a nation and its people. Hence, it helps evoke feelings of patriotism among the country’s citizens and reminds them of their nation’s glory, beauty, and rich heritage. It also helps unite the citizens of the country by one single song or music. During the performance of the national anthem, citizens of a nation, despite their ethnic differences, rise up in unison and listen attentively or sing the song with great enthusiasm. Players also feel a great moment of pride when they receive a medal at an international sporting event while their country’s national anthem is played in the background. It gives them a feeling of having made their country proud. Students who listen to the national anthem in their schools learn to respect their nation and develop a sense of unity among themselves.
  • Josiah's Bay (21/11/2019, 11:23) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    There is simple something wrong with a people who worship, honor, praise and emulate a people who for the most part have oppressed them. We erect statues, name edifices, roads and bodies of water after them under the false belief that they have help to advance us as a people. When the truth is closer to the opposite. They have oppress us, robbed us of our humanity and resources, deprived us of our freedom and stifle our education. All of this can be proven through our historical relationship with them, just read the history.
    • Nah (23/11/2019, 20:38) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Incredible. This place has a huge budget and has for three decades and has not even bothered to invest in education, the facilities or the teaching faculties. That is on everyone at VIP and NDP and the electorate for never demanding it. Alternative views held in Singapore and other places where they get that only high education and training moves a people forward.
  • Jacperlance (21/11/2019, 14:11) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    The National Anthem signifies an emblem of pride and dignity. What I have a problem with is the wording of the National Anthem which is been adopted because we are an overseas Territory, it should not only be about the Queen. It’s more Colonial in nature but we cannot get away from it until we take our own coast and then adopt the territorial song as out Anthem. So Claude it is what it is until such time.
  • Jane (21/11/2019, 14:41) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    It is ridiculous the BVI is a colony of the UK. It is wrong and it should end. BVI should become independent. The UK will be delighted that they can rid themselves of the responsibility of looking after these islands: the BVI costs the UK money and gets nothing back in return. British people seriously do not hanker after the days of Empire: they're too worried about austerity, food banks and Brexit.

    Independence will not come however because BVIslanders enjoy the privileges of obtaining UK passports, studying in the UK and obtaining free healthcare in the UK. This is a good deal for them, if the only cost is singing a song about a woman in an expensive hat.
  • Stockholm Syndrome (21/11/2019, 21:45) Like (0) Dislike (3) Reply
    Some of yall suffering from Stockholm Syndrome where you fall in love with your captors, abusers and oppressors. Read the Preamble to the Virgin Islands Constitution below, and tell me if the UK is respecting the spirit of the BVI Constitution. The UK does not. Not with the Governor overstepping his authority. Not with the Protocols for Effective Financial Management; not where the BVI has to get permission to borrow loans that the BVI has to pay back.
    Besides a British passport, tell me how does being a UK Territory really benefit the BVI. How much money does the UK contribute to the BVI expenditure annually? The UK treats the OTs like bastard children and pays no maintenance or alimony.
    Claude is right!

    "Whereas the people of the territory of the Virgin Islands have over centuries evolved with a distinct cultural identity which is the essence of a Virgin Islander;
    Acknowledging that the society of the Virgin Islands is based upon certain moral, spiritual and democratic values including a belief in God, the dignity of the human person, the freedom of the individual and respect for fundamental rights and freedoms and the rule of law;
    Mindful that the people of the Virgin Islands have expressed a desire for their Constitution to reflect who they are as a people and a country and their quest for social justice, economic empowerment and political advancement;
    Recognising that the people of the Virgin Islands have a free and independent spirit, and have developed themselves and their country based on qualities of honesty, integrity, mutual respect, self-reliance and the ownership of the land engendering a strong sense of belonging to and kinship with those Islands;
    Recalling that because of historical, economic and other reasons many of the people of the Virgin Islands reside elsewhere but have and continue to have an ancestral connection and bond with those Islands;
    Accepting that the Virgin Islands should be governed based on adherence to well-established democratic principles and institutions;
    Affirming that the people of the Virgin Islands have generally expressed their desire to become a self-governing people and to exercise the highest degree of control over the affairs of their country at this stage of its development;
    and Noting that the United Kingdom, the administering power for the time being, has articulated a desire to enter into a modern partnership with the Virgin Islands based on the principles of mutual respect and self-determination;
    Now, therefore, the following provisions have effect as the Constitution of the Virgin Islands."
  • Lord Hawk (22/11/2019, 06:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    @stockholm syndrome, and what’s your point, you piece can be long as history, the fact remains that the BVI is a UK overseas Territory and must accept the will of the UK, until we decide to branch out in our own, then things will always remain the same. Say what you will, say what you may it is for us to change it but no we won’t because we are looking at what us at stake and what we tend to loose.
  • Ex-pat (mainly) agrees (26/11/2019, 12:31) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I am not a fan of CSK in general, but I agree with him here. As a Brit living here, I fully support the singing of the BVI National Anthem/ song rather than God Save the Queen except where protocol dictates. Wales and Scotland sing their own national anthems most of the time despite the Queen being their Head of State. Same for Australia, Canada, NZ etc. The only difference here is their independence vs being a territory, but I think the same should apply for all. I also agree that promoting and supporting BVI culture should be a priority, as should finding a way to move on from the obsession with the slavery past which is hampering the development of the BVI to find an identity it is comfortable with.

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