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Josiah’s Bay residents accuse Gov’t of not protecting their interests

- said Gov’t allowing foreign surf school to compete with local businesses is an example of them abandoning their own people
The new surf school at Josiah's Bay beach. Some local residents of Josiah's Bay say it is unfair for an expatriate business to be allowed to compete with locals'. Photo: VINO
Local businesswoman Naomi Frett-Patterson claims she has been thrown out of business with the opening of the expatriates-owned surf school at Josiah's Bay beach. Photo: VINO
Local businesswoman Naomi Frett-Patterson claims she has been thrown out of business with the opening of the expatriates-owned surf school at Josiah's Bay beach. Photo: VINO
Frett-Patterson's surf board rental business at Josiah's Bay beach. Photo: VINO
Frett-Patterson's surf board rental business at Josiah's Bay beach. Photo: VINO
JOSIAH’S BAY, Tortola, VI – Some residents of Josiah’s Bay on the Eastern side of Tortola are complaining bitterly of what they call unfair business competition for locals and the National Democratic Party (NDP) Government’s failure to look out for them.

One of the affected business persons grappling with this issue and was willing to go on record is Ms Naomi Frett-Patterson. She owns and operates one of the bars on the beach at Josiah’s Bay. The woman told this news site that the National Democratic Party Government is guilty of putting the interest of an expatriate above her, a local businesswoman.

One of Mrs Frett-Patterson’s main issues has to do with a South African being granted government permission to operate a surf school on the beach. This she said has and continues to ‘take bread’ out of her mouth as her surf and snorkeling business has since completely ended.

“Now my business, the surf board’s, out of business. I use to rent my surf boards but I never use to teach nobody because I don’t know how to teach that but I rented now I out of business. I born here, my parents and people are all born-bred Tortolians and we are supposed to be able to survive right here with our business,” said Mrs Frett-Patterson.

No help from Gov’t

Frett-Patterson said she went the full length to get government to intervene but to no avail. “I went to trade they didn’t give me justice, I went to the Natural Resources [Ministry] and an officer (name called) told me straight that no way they will revoke the surf school’s license. He said that not happening. I went to the Premier also.”

Efforts to reach officials from the Ministry of Natural Resources and Labour where not successful up to publication time.

Frett-Patterson explained that prior to going the length to get government to intervene in her interest she had approached one of the owners of the surf school and tried to negotiate an arrangement which would have seen them both being able to rent their boards and that was unsuccessful as the owner allegedly told her, “It’s a business he doing”.

“We are like a forgotten people behind God’s back her,” said another concerned businessman operating in the area who asked not to be named. He noted that the issue of the surf school’s operation is just a tip in the iceberg that needs to be properly investigated in the Josiah’s Bay community.

“We are calling on Government to come out here and do a serious investigation into these issues affecting us down here. A lot of underhand and illegal things happening and we be complaining and complaining and no one listening to us. That is why we call in the media now. These issues serious and some include corrupt (allegedly) government people,” adding the man.

Several other serious issues and allegations were raised with this news site by local residents in the Josiah’s Bay area which this news site is currently investigating.

51 Responses to “Josiah’s Bay residents accuse Gov’t of not protecting their interests”

  • NDP Dark Clouds (15/09/2016, 10:03) Like (33) Dislike (7) Reply
    NDP: No Da#n-Good People!
  • all ah we (15/09/2016, 10:28) Like (17) Dislike (2) Reply
    WELCOME TO THE CLUB
  • SMH (15/09/2016, 10:29) Like (54) Dislike (21) Reply
    So being from here means you can just operate shit business and be protected automatically? Why not approach the people with the 'know how' and work something out?
    • my two cents (15/09/2016, 14:52) Like (23) Dislike (14) Reply
      Even if it shit as you say it is hers and she is a BVI born we cannot go SOUTH AFRICA and set up shop there .Regardless of what we cannot let the NDP bring in people here and take bread out our Caribbean people mouth . That is where the trade department and the tourist board fail that is a place where tourist go they should have gone to the lady and try to help her to set up the business properly or encourage her to get a family member to help her. She is to small for her minister he only ranks with the rich again what happen to the at large ones we put to represent us I guess all they can do is collect our tax money and for get about us until the next election. This one example how they care about their own. You all cannot see the lady trying to make a honest living.
      • ADollar (15/09/2016, 16:17) Like (19) Dislike (9) Reply
        You don't know what you talking about. The woman not had anyone do her no wrong. She just wants money for nothing because she from here and the guy who run the business is not. Them is legal. Them is good for her business. Do your homework. Check the facts and deal with reality not what you all decide is true because someone say so.
      • 5 cents (15/09/2016, 16:51) Like (19) Dislike (5) Reply

        You sound like a damn *$s! You all go to St Thomas to shop because you say you can't get what you want here, but when the shi* hits home that's when you complain. Why should customers have to deal with SH*T just because it is LOCAL SH*T! You are FULL OF **T!

      • Josiahs Bay Resident (15/09/2016, 19:02) Like (32) Dislike (4) Reply
        She needs to either sit down and be quiet or bring her business establishment up to par and into 2016. Sorry but regardless of where anyone is from visitors and locals alike deserve a higher standard of operation and service than what has been offered down there for years. The BVI can never move to the next level with sloppy services offered and this entitlement menatility. This same person also has exception to the other bar being on the beach, as the beach is owned by her. She is a lovely lady, but the mentality is not suited for modern business.
  • they were misled (15/09/2016, 10:36) Like (18) Dislike (10) Reply
    I don't feel for those who voted for the NDP at all.
    • Grow-up (15/09/2016, 11:36) Like (7) Dislike (6) Reply
      No one asking no one to feel for those who voted for NDP or VIP; election finish. Each peroson who went to the poles last election excersied their right; we need to accept and respect that and move on. However, we need to look at every situation and see how to make it better for us as a people; NDP, VIP, non-voters and all the other people that make up the territory, children included.
  • HELP!! (15/09/2016, 10:52) Like (31) Dislike (2) Reply
    I feel for Mrs. Patterson, but she has to upgrade her place also. Her area is not so presentable, and the last time my friend from St. Thomas was visiting and we passed by, we could only drink a coke because her waitress had "no teeth" so I was not inclined to eat at her place. We got to watch them South Africans. They ran from apartheid to institute more apartheid here, but we are not Soweto and will Wet-their-toes fast, fast. Big D is there too, so let's hope there will be some locals there to get some of the money that is floating around. Ms. Patterson needs a little partnership. Any big boys out there to help her out with new ideas, etc?
    • Bull (15/09/2016, 11:13) Like (55) Dislike (13) Reply

      We don't have to watch no damn South Africans, we need to step our game up and stop the senseless whining to Government. If she had a proper set up down there, nobody else would try to start another business. Look at Cane Garden Bay, the local boys (whether you like them or not), continue to adjust accordingly and make money down on the beach strip. No south african or otherwise will get a spot down there doing what they do. This attitude where "people should support me because I'm here and I'm local, whether or not my business is sh*t!"..it needs to stop. The customers have rights too! Nowhere else in the Caribbean has more protections for locals than the BVI and that is a fact so the complaining is pure nonsense.

      • Wait... (15/09/2016, 12:43) Like (17) Dislike (0) Reply
        Didn't we have a Small Business Support Department that OJ was heading up at one time? Where are they to lend support to this lady's small business?
        • Good Point! (15/09/2016, 14:07) Like (31) Dislike (4) Reply

          The FACT that this local woman saw a need, started her business, and now doing her best to keep it going is commendable. The various Gov't Departments with these various budgets to help train and guide these small business owners to achieve a standard where they can compete, need to get on with it and stop playing games in our country. Help the small businesses that are struggling so they can grow and employ some of our people.

          This woman went to so many of these co-called Gov't Leaders for help and they could not suggest such a possible solution or direction? Go to SBA online for some solutions or get someome to research for you, then take some of those ideas to the Gov't Department that was formed to support small businesses in the territory.

          These Present Gov't Leaders of Our Country are a piece of work, considering they (some) have businesses themselves. ALL-ABOUT-THEMSELVES.
        • hello (15/09/2016, 14:40) Like (23) Dislike (4) Reply
          While helping her may be the key, lets not forget the mentality of some of these individuals. A problem routed in the structuring of her personal business is now an National item on the agenda? Suppose she was offered assistance and still not happy? Its clear that she does not want anybody from outside on her beach. That is the problem here! That competing business is taking away from hers. Its Called business and Competition.
      • @Bull (15/09/2016, 13:12) Like (16) Dislike (6) Reply
        You are 100% correct. In here statement she admitted that she doesn't have the expertise as the owner of the new business so that says it all. If a local business has invested heavily and has the know-how and are being treated unfairly then I can see Government intervening, but not on the basis of being local alone. It's a sad story but perhaps if she has kids or other family that are business savvy and can help her out then all will not be lost.
      • I Am Local (16/09/2016, 11:03) Like (9) Dislike (7) Reply
        You need to understand before you condemn she has been trying for the last set of years but has been refuse asisstance by the ministries of natural resources but because of certain officials special interest this has been neglected and she has proof of years of addressing these ministries. Land is being stolen at josiah's bay by people who has no entitlement to the land and this is were conflict comes in. It needs to be investigated before this matter gets bigger. We have people who has falsified documents and have registry confused over the whole matter which is key to why she cannot better her business cause of special interest that want to put her off the beach all together. which is dead wrong since her birth string started there and been there ever since. A court investigation needs to be taken up on josiah's bay beach over stolen land which south african is occuping for business with permission from natural resources without permission from locals who are deceased.
  • Gustavo (15/09/2016, 11:06) Like (34) Dislike (10) Reply
    Judging from the above article it's only fair for me to comment on what was reported and nothing more. From what I gathered is that Mrs Patterson is upset about the fact that a South African has a competing business on the same beach as her. Other comments pointed to the "born here mentality" The comment about being born and bred along With both of your parents and you being able to survive is just not true and we as Virgin Islanders need to reform our way of thinking. What the man said about it being a business is essentially what it is... a business. I myself frequent that beach especially when it's calm and it's a pretty big beach and often quiet. I can't help but wonder, if it was a local who has the same passion and drive for surfing that started a competing business and took it to greater levels, one who also obtained the property documentation to operate the said business, would she still cry foul while not making money competing with another "son of the soil" it appears that she wants the monopoly on the beach judging From the article.
    • Still Fresh (15/09/2016, 16:39) Like (42) Dislike (8) Reply

      “Truth Be Told”

      Apartheid on the books supposedly came to an end a few years after the rise of the 1994 democratic general elections in South Africa.

      The only reason all these South Africans are flocking to our shores at this time is because the True Indigenous South Africans have turned on them. Their CRIME RATE is through the ROOF.

      When they had all their privileges and entitlements off the backs of the black people (the indigenous ones of the country), they were loving it.

      Never allow their SMILES to fool you (only acting the part). They still harbour their deep-seated beliefs that they are of a more superior species of HUMAN BEINGS who should be able, at all times, to obtain what is not theirs.

      Brother BOB said, “Give them an inch, they take a yard.”

      Help the Sister! Critically read the articles and extract the full essence of what is not being properly articulated.

      If we do not learn and know our story, we bound to repeat it.
      • UN-APOLOGICALLY CORRECTED! (15/09/2016, 21:12) Like (17) Dislike (3) Reply
        @Still Fresh

        THANK YOU FOR CHALLENGING THE STATUS QUO. OUR STORY IS INDEED IMPORTANT; AND UNTIL IT IS GENUINELY ADDRESSED, IT SHOULD BE MADE AWARE NEAR AND FAR.

        THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD, AND WITHOUT APOLOGIES!

        HE JEWS NEVER ALLOW YOU TO FORGET THEIR FEW YEARS (ALTHOUGH HORIFIC) WHAT THEY BEEN THROUGH AS A RESULT OF THEIR OWN MAKINGS. BUT WE, DESCENDENTS OF ORIGINAL MAN AND WOMAN, WHO WERE ENSLAVED FOR 1200 = + YEARS (SOME STILL DEEPLY ENTRENCHED BY MENTAL CONDITIONING), ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE EXCUSES, WATERDOWN, AND APOLOGIZE FOR THE TRUTH.
  • Yes (15/09/2016, 11:11) Like (24) Dislike (13) Reply
    So she went to trade and natural resources to shut down the man business because he is doing better than her? Tola mentality from the roots eh! Anyways anytime they shut him down no problem, I born here and If the business is so great, I'll get the necessary trade license and required permission to start the same enterprise.
  • kkk (15/09/2016, 11:41) Like (14) Dislike (2) Reply
    south African do these people understand the history there?
  • two sides of the same coin (15/09/2016, 11:54) Like (19) Dislike (5) Reply
    European South Africans and The NDP Gang. They will do anything for POWER!
    • Gustavo (15/09/2016, 15:00) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
      So sad that when anything happens it's governments fault. Persons legally obtaining the necessary documentation to run a business that has outdone another exsisting business is governments fault. I guess all business must struggle or that new business should not out perform established business regardless of the history, performance or helpfulness of that establishment
  • Ning (15/09/2016, 11:59) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
    Because our people in charge don't have a clue or care how to give us the help we need to remain viable in our country.
  • humm (15/09/2016, 12:25) Like (19) Dislike (4) Reply
    So because the woman say she born here people have an issue. If she was born Jamaica and said she is a proud Jamaican,Lucian or Vincentian no one would say anything right?
    St. Thomians do it VI to the Bone they say, Crucians and St. Johnians as well. But Native BVI Landers Cant?
    Sorry I dont agree. USE IT ITS YOUR RIGHT !! Yuh Born here say it proud AH from Ha!!
    But when BVI Landers say ah bhan here or ah from here ppl always have an issue with it. That is the only part of the aritcle Im going to comment on.

    Signed proud Thomian !!

    • Ah (15/09/2016, 13:55) Like (19) Dislike (5) Reply
      Where do you see anyone having a problem with her saying she is born here? People have a problem with the fact that she thinks because she is born here that means that a business owned by people not born here is not supposed to do better than her own even though she says she doesn't have the knowledge they have when it comes to that part of the business.
  • here (15/09/2016, 13:01) Like (9) Dislike (4) Reply
    So is that new business presentable ??? Look at the site or the new business and all they do is having a set of dogs sh**ting on the beach. It's just not rite.
  • only saying (15/09/2016, 13:05) Like (12) Dislike (3) Reply
    there is enough pie on the beach for everyone to have a piece. I think it was unfair for her to try to shut the man down. Sorry but, her business is outdated. It is a nice beach but, I prefer to hang out on Cane Garden Bay Beach. The vibe is nice there and they have their stuff together.
  • wize up (15/09/2016, 13:56) Like (15) Dislike (2) Reply
    If your leaders are money hungry then the little BVI people will suffer......some of us need time to grow our business but some comes in with deep pockets: my question; all of us are looking for business opportunities BV Islanders or Non BV Islanders however I find the BV Islandsers are pushed aside in favor of foreign investor and that is so funny because most of us can not leave this BVI and establish business outside of our territory...I truly under development but what will our children and grandchildren be entitled to in this territory: self preservation come first....some of these folks are not granted such privileges in thier own county but waltz into little BVI and live like kings and queens simply because our leaders are money hungry....set up companies here and the work force are most non belongers(this can only be done this in BVI)
    • some come with money, but (15/09/2016, 14:28) Like (30) Dislike (3) Reply
      some come BROKE as well. However, they have a much easier time accessing money from the same banks that give us a hard time. "Must be the complexion for the protection of the collection."
    • Gustavo (15/09/2016, 14:52) Like (10) Dislike (4) Reply
      I can agree with some of your points but at the end of the day, our greatest obstacles are our very own attitudes and the belief that we are owed something. There are endless business that could be started here in the BVI but the way we are, we refuse to start small and build our name/brand. What ever it is must hit the ground running and be an instant hit! To be money hungry is not the same as to be hungry for success. We take for granted the things that we have, and when some one takes the initiative and brings new and existing ideas to life it's a major problem.
  • WTF (15/09/2016, 14:27) Like (28) Dislike (6) Reply
    If Naomi were to clean and upgrade her place, she could have a thriving eatery. I don't know what surf board business she is talking about, because If 6 people go down there to surf, Naomi i don't have enough surf boards to accommodate them. Now she wants government to block a business so she can get her few surf boards rented. Surfing can be a great attraction not only for Josiah Bay, but for the territory on the whole. If the sport is managed properly and expanded, one day it is possible to see regional and international surf competition held in the BVI. Naomi, my advice to you is to position yourself to capitalize on What is possible. You can also get local support, because me and others used to meet at your place every week, but we had to stop because you let the place go. It is run down and dirty. Clean up and upgraded to be competitive. Being from here does not guarantee you a place in the business arena, if you are not Up For Business. If you were serious you will have a cook and server pleasing to the palate. So you have work to do. Do your homework and stop whining and complaining. No one owe you anything.
  • josiah bay (15/09/2016, 14:48) Like (11) Dislike (5) Reply
    this woman regardless of being from here she live almost all her life in the USA and now come home to dictate what the government should do leave us who stuck it out here and build this place speak out woman take a back seat
  • JustWannaSay (15/09/2016, 15:05) Like (53) Dislike (31) Reply
    OK, here are some facts.
    One: this business is owned by a local BVIslander. It is run in partnership with a guy who is Australian, South African and English in heritage. He has worked as a surf life saver around the world his whole professional life.
    Two: That gentleman did not waltz in here and set up. He was invited here by BVI government to work for us as a lifeguard. He did this for 8+ years.
    Three: He saved many, many lives. On Josiah's Bay and other beaches of the BVI.
    Four: When all the other foreign lifeguards left to go home, he stayed and dedicated his time to continuing to work here for government and saving lives. He did more than that. He set up a lifesaving club for the kids of East End and Tortola to come and learn how to be safe and enjoy the dangerous waters of Josiah's Bay. He taught them how to surf. He shared his skills and knowledge freely with anyone and everyone - tourist, local, whatever.
    Four: Mrs Frett-Patterson had been renting surfboards but she stopped. Four years ago when the surf school started there was no one renting boards. And no one teaching surfing.
    Five: The company was set up because it was clear that a lot of people come to Josiah's and want to surf. This man was the best qualified person to teach people to do it safely. No question. Work permit applications were made and eventually everything went through, via the usual channels, no favors, no politics.
    Six: Surfing is dangerous. Renting boards to people when conditions are bad and you don't know how experienced they are, is a sure way to initiate either a drowning, or at best, a rescue. Rescues are dangerous. They put lifeguards at risk. Point: knowledge is required to play in the surf.
    Seven: To my knowledge, no one has ever told the lady she couldn't rent out surfboards. Business gravitated to to the surf school because it is clear that they know about the sport, the equipment, the sea conditions and they are qualified as instructors and lifeguards. They are also expert and friendly teachers. That is why business goes there.
    Eight: The surf school attracts business. Every surfer wants a drink. They want lunch. They wants shade. What do they do? They go to one of the two bars on Josiah's Bay. Business on the beach is increased and the two bars benefit.
    Nine: The school is located on land rented from local land owners, it is licensed, insured, it pays taxes every month and it outreaches to the kids and anyone else that wants to learn how to enjoy the dangerous waters of Josiah's Bay.
    There is plenty more to say but the bottom line is, no one with deep pockets walked in from a foreign land and stole business from local people. No government help was solicited or used. This is a small business that benefits everyone in the area by bringing customers, raising Josiah's Bay's profile and helping to keep people safe.
    • @JustWannaSay (15/09/2016, 17:35) Like (10) Dislike (5) Reply
      Thanks for the info, but isn't this how it was always done. Check the history of Peter Haycraft and Moss. Bomba Full Moon Party and Trellis Bay.
      • JustWannaSay (15/09/2016, 18:55) Like (10) Dislike (9) Reply
        Hey, I've said my piece and it speaks for itself. Your interpretation bears no relation to the reality of this case.
        • @JustWannaSay (15/09/2016, 20:22) Like (34) Dislike (15) Reply

          The fact is- your info still don't make it right. Come in for a few years, learn the lay of the land, play your part, and then, set yourself up by using our people with the intention to completely take over. Most South Africans living among us today have no home to return too. We shall not be fooled by their Smiles any longer.
          • WTF (16/09/2016, 09:56) Like (8) Dislike (8) Reply
            Use our people? How? When doing business get your shit together or don't go into it at all. Go to a Lawyer, a learned friend, if you don't have the capacity to handle it. There are many local businesses that have been around for 10-20 years and not upgrading their offerings or services and someone whether local or coming in from abroad sees an opportunity, they should just ignore it? Because a local already has it? Because they are not from here? So it's okay for her to just rent surf boards to anyone willing to rent and when those rough seas at Josiah's capture them then what? Is the surf school selling drinks? No? She is a bar and sells food but her complaint is about surf board rentals?
            • @wtf (16/09/2016, 11:27) Like (18) Dislike (8) Reply
              At the interim, did they go and possibly work out something with this establishment that has been there for all these years. When that area was nothing, where were they? The gov't just bringing in these people; they see how docile our people are, and then they make their move to take over. That's what they have done in every part of the world. Their quiet, llure of wickedness never cease throughout his-story. Save your talk for the countless ethnic people they have destroyed in south africa. BVI could be next.
    • Coatesman (16/09/2016, 07:17) Like (8) Dislike (7) Reply

      " Winners never whine and whiners never win". In closing, as its said, when little Jonny from the mainland comes for a surf lesson from the legendary South African surf instructor, Jonny's ma and pa will certainly love a drink at the bar!! It goes hand in hand. Aloha.

    • casual observer (19/09/2016, 16:38) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
      @JustWannaSay - your statement is full of truths. I can't even count the number of times I saw Steve pull a drowning person to safety. Instead of all of this nonsense why doesn't anyone celebrate that?
  • @JustWannaSay (15/09/2016, 16:57) Like (4) Dislike (5) Reply

    Well said, that should calm the bullsh*t now.

  • Sophie (15/09/2016, 18:03) Like (8) Dislike (4) Reply
    Josiah's Bay booming now! Someone should open a cock fighting ring down there, bring in the tourists. Maybe Naomi should diversify further.
  • street reporter. (15/09/2016, 18:35) Like (12) Dislike (3) Reply
    20 yrs your business has not improved. Why after 2) yrs she didn't think of getting a surfing teacher? Ms u were suppose to have the beach lock down after 20 yrs. Then there will be no room for no one to get in. Born here is all good.. But nothing government can do when you fail to improve... U just get left behind...
    • I Am Local (16/09/2016, 10:20) Like (11) Dislike (4) Reply
      Alot of you talking about her method of running her business but when she was being undermind, robbed by other locals and refusal by gv officias to address her matter because of there special interest. steve say he trains local at this school only whites i see at his class with few indians but no local black child or children does be in his classess his whole summer program didnt have in one black local so ha when you want to talk.
      • Research your facts (17/09/2016, 13:38) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
        There are a number of local kids that go to the surf school so I wonder where you get your facts from. I wonder how many of you have even met or spoken to the "South African" that you speak so viciously of. He is the one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and does what he does because he loves to surf and is an amazing patient teacher. It's so so sad to read people saying such hateful things. I regularly go to Josiah's to watch my boys surf and the South African has given them that gift. I try to eat at Naomi's but invariably she gets the order wrong or takes an hour to produce a simple burger or sandwich. The lack of business has nothing to do with competition. Myself and other persons not from here who drop their kids at the surf schools also stop and take Naomi into town when she needs a ride. It's just about being a Christian. Isn't that is what supposed to be at the heart of our actions - not this name calling and unbased slander.
      • WTF (19/09/2016, 12:31) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
        @ I am local

        Did black locals applied to the school and were denied
        entry? If that is not the case, then the reason why there were no black children in the summer classes, might very well be that they were not interested and did not apply.
  • swimmer (15/09/2016, 21:24) Like (6) Dislike (9) Reply
    @JustWannaSay, Thank you so much for your comment. Maybe now all the negative Sayers will shut the hell up.
  • south africa (15/09/2016, 21:36) Like (12) Dislike (11) Reply
    These set of racist
  • Sickened and Going Home (22/09/2016, 02:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    This place is such a sweltering cesspool of sickening entitled individuals who feel they are entitled. They must be lazy and daft as dirt yet they expect to be protected and handed jobs they are not and will never be qualified for just on the sole basis of being a Virgin-Islander. They sicken me, everyday people just going around as dumb as dirt and ignorant yet the 'guwament ain't doing nothing' for they lazy asses! Foreigners come in and take advantage of the opportunities that are there for the locals to take up but they too lazy-assed to see it themselves and take them up because they there cussing the 'gowament' expecting them to just hand out jobs and money to their lazy ignorant ass!!!

    This territory is going down, I hope you all see where this backward 1800s mentality gonna take you. In case you haven't noticed the VI is going down, things getting more expensive, money ain stretching as it used to, less people coming in more leaving and the minute shit hits the fan, all the foreigners and expats who built this shithole and made it what it is today gon' up and leave mih son and when they do, Britain ain' gon help as she cyaah even help herself after Brexit. Britain wants to give ayo independence and get ayo out her hair! Watch, 2 years ain gon pass and the country dont collapse!!!!


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