'If you believe in God' you will give 10% tithes - Pastor Calvin Mills on 'Real Talk'
Pastor Mills made the comments during the February 19, 2020, premiere of the new season of Karia J. Christopher's 'Real Talk' television show with guest Apostle Curnal P. Fahie and sponsored by Flow.
Real Talk has not aired since the first half of 2017; however, it was recently announced that the show will be back in partnership with Flow BVI, debuting on Flow TV.
The context of the conversation was surrounding Christianity and its true place in 2020 and what should a single mother do; who is struggling to take care of three children, after being asked to give 10% of her hard earnings.
Requirements of God
"We dealing with the requirements of God, and I know there is a whole lot of debates whether tithing is for the church today... whether it's an old testament thing, it's a new testament thing... but we are not going to go there."
"But if you believe in God and you believe in his word, you will exercise your faith to prove his word and if he is the one that requires the 10th of tithes... by faith we give it," he said.
According to Pastor Mills, giving to the church 'stretches your faith' and the imaginations, hence people who are broke and in need and cannot afford to give, can't afford not to give.
"As a young boy giving my life to Christ, I didn't know anything about tithing from the top. I tithing from the bottom... and many times I give the last that I had l...and three times I had the experience when I give my last to go, it came back to me instantly."
"I believe that" - Mrs Christopher
He said in one instance, he received his money before exiting the church and noted that it was was a sign from God.
"It's by faith we live, take God at his word," Pastor Mills stated.
Mrs Christopher, in agreeing with the sentiments of Pastor Mills, acknowledged that the comments could be controversial.
She said that while she believed in his position on the issue, many people will challenge it.
Meanwhile, Real Talk will air on FLOW TV on Wednesdays at 8:00 pm and shortly after can be seen on the Facebook page, Real Talk with Karia Christopher.
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At the same time, use your God-given gut feeling and common sense to identify modern day false prophets who twist these prophecies to their own agenda. Such as the people in Israel today.
God is an energy, a state of being. God is within us. “God” is the feeling of divinity, oneness and peace which can be achieved through spirituality but never religion. Religion is fueled off of extremely low vibrational emotions such as shame, guilt & fear.
Furthermore, the church depends on the tithes of its members to pay operational costs...it's like a business that has to have revenues or income. But it can put some people off of God if they believe they have to pay for salvation...the Bible says Jesus died for all sinners and whosoever will may come...Jesus paid it all. Now when church mix up money with God, things can get confused.
There are seven decisive reasons for saying Christians are not required to tithe.
1. Believers are no longer under the Mosaic covenant (Rom. 6:14–15; 7:5–6; Gal. 3:15–4:7; 2 Cor. 3:4–18).
The commands stipulated in the Mosaic covenant are no longer in force for believers. Some appeal to the division between the civil, ceremonial, and moral law to support tithing. Yet these divisions, I would observe, are not the basis Paul uses when addressing how the law applies to us today. And even if we use these distinctions, tithing is clearly not part of the moral law. It’s true the moral norms of the Old Testament are still in force today, and we discern them from the law of Christ in the New Testament, but tithing is not among these commands.
2. The examples of Abraham and Jacob are not normative patterns.
Some think tithing is required because both Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth, and they both lived before the Mosaic covenant was in place. Such examples hardly prove tithing is for all time, however. Abraham’s gift to Melchizedek was a one-time event; there is no evidence he regularly gave God a tenth.
Jacob’s giving of a tenth signified his gratefulness to God for promising to be with him and to protect him. His gratefulness and generosity still speak to us today, but a historical description of what Jacob gave doesn’t support the idea that all believers must give God a tenth of their income.
3. Tithes were given to the Levites and priests, but there are no Levites and priests in the new covenant.
Levites and priests were tied to the sacrificial system of the old covenant. Now all believers are priests (1 Pet. 2:9; Rev. 1:6; 5:10; 20:6), with Jesus as our Melchizedekian high priest (Heb. 7).
4. The tithe is tied to the land Israel received under the old covenant.
Israel was supposed to celebrate a tithe every three years in Jerusalem. But that requirement cannot apply to Christians today. It related to the Jews as a nation—to Jews who lived in the land of promise. With the coming of Christ, the Jewish nation is no longer the locus of God’s people, though individual Jews are part of the church through faith in Jesus.
The earthly Jerusalem is no longer central in God’s purposes (Gal. 4:25). Believers are part of the heavenly Jerusalem (Gal. 4:26) and look forward to the city to come (Heb. 11:10), to the new heavens and new earth (Rev. 21:1–22:5). Abraham isn’t heir of the land of Israel, but of the whole world (Rom. 4:13).
5. If tithing is required today, how much should we give?
As noted above, the number was certainly more than 10 percent and closer to 20 percent. Those who advocate tithing should probably settle on 20 percent.
6. When Jesus affirmed the tithe, it was before the dawn of the new covenant.
Some defend tithing by saying Jesus praised tithing, even if he said it was less important than other things (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42). This argument appears strong, but it’s not persuasive. Jesus also mentioned offering sacrifices in the temple (Matt. 5:23–24), but Christians don’t think—even if the temple were rebuilt—that we should do that. Our Lord’s words are understandable when we think about his location in redemptive history.
Jesus spoke about sacrifices and tithing before the cross and resurrection, before the dawn of the new covenant. He used tithing and sacrifices as illustrations when addressing his contemporaries. He kept the law since he was “born under the law” (Gal. 4:4). But we can no more take his words as a commendation for tithing today than we can his words about offering sacrifices.
7. Nowhere is tithing mentioned when commands to give generously are found in the New Testament.
When Christians are instructed to give to the poor, they aren’t commanded to give “the poor tithe.” Instead, they are instructed to be generous in helping those in need (Acts 2:43–47; 4:32–37; 11:27–30; Gal. 2:10; 1 Cor. 16:1–4; 2 Cor. 8:1–9:15). For example, 1 Corinthians 16:1–4—a passage often cited in popular circles in support—doesn’t mention tithing; it relates to a one-time gift for poor saints in Jerusalem.
Give Generously
Even though tithing isn’t required today, it does not follow that believers should hoard their possessions.
We are commanded to support those who preach the gospel (Matt. 10:10; Luke 10:7; 1 Cor. 9:6–14; 1 Tim. 5:17–18). And while we should enjoy the good things God gives us, we are also called to be generous to those in need (1 Tim. 6:17–19; 2 Cor. 8–9). Wealth can so easily become an idol, leading us to abandon the Lord.
Since God is to be our treasure, believers are to give generously and freely. For many in the West, this will mean giving more than 10 percent.
Still, Scripture doesn’t command Christians to give a tenth—and Scripture, not tradition, is our rule and authority.
Up until recently, all the tithes and offerings from my childhood church were collected and sent to a "headquarters" in the USA. That same headquarters did not send a dime in relief to the BVI after hurricane Irma.
Our people are being awakened. Those teachings you regurgitated from the American evangelical pastors will no longer work on us.
They come first?
Get stuffed!
Sheer greed and praying on the poor. DO not give more than you can afford. Your family comes first not the church!