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Help from UK relief ship rejected by Premier Smith

-Not needed! UK ship stood down
It is not clear if the help from RFA Mounts Bay was rejected by this Government or whether the decision to not send the RFA Mounts Bay back to the VI was made by UK authorities and on whose assessment. Photo: VINO/File
A helicopter operation conducted on July 24, 2017 by members of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) Mounts Bay had resulted in some 20 marijuana fields being spotted in the Territory. Photo: VINO/File
A helicopter operation conducted on July 24, 2017 by members of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) Mounts Bay had resulted in some 20 marijuana fields being spotted in the Territory. Photo: VINO/File
Aftermath of the recent tropical wave to hit the Territory on August 7, 2017. Photo: VINO
Aftermath of the recent tropical wave to hit the Territory on August 7, 2017. Photo: VINO
According to Premier Dr The Hon D. Orlando Smith (AL), help from RFA Mounts Bay was not needed and it was told to ‘stand down’. Photo: VINO/File
According to Premier Dr The Hon D. Orlando Smith (AL), help from RFA Mounts Bay was not needed and it was told to ‘stand down’. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- Following the recent Tropical Wave that inundated parts of Tortola, causing heavy losses and damages to property and infrastructure, many persons have been asking where is the RFA Mounts Bay, which was in the Territory recently.

The Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) Mounts Bay, which is in the Caribbean region for the next three years, and is currently doing a routine check with all the British Overseas Territories (BOTs), has been assisting in disaster preparedness and crime fighting and officials of the vessel had met with personnel from the Department of Disaster Management while in the Virgin Islands late last month.

But according to Premier Dr The Hon D. Orlando Smith (AL), help from RFA Mounts Bay was not needed and it was told to “stand down”.

In a press statement late August 11, 2017, Premier Smith said his Government has been communicating with the UK authorities and other regional partners since the storm began on Monday August 7, 2017.

Stand down

“The UK Ministry of Defence immediately put RFA Mounts Bay, including, its crew and assets on standby and instructed the ship to sail closer to BVI to assist if requested to do so. But given that our local authorities have made substantial progress in clearing roads and restoring power, and the significant assistance of the community, the ship was stood down and returned to its previous tasking,” the Premier and Minister of Finance disclosed.

It is not clear if the help was rejected by this Government or whether the decision to not send the RFA Mounts Bay back to the VI was made by UK authorities and on whose assessment.

Only yesterday, August 11, 2017 a concerned resident had called for a fly over just to make sure no one else was trapped in their homes or somewhere else.

The woman said she felt compelled to make the public appeal after learning of the case of Lauren Keil, who was rescued from her Hodges Creek Home on August 10, 2017.

A helicopter operation conducted on July 24, 2017 by members of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) Mounts Bay had resulted in some 20 marijuana fields being spotted in the Territory.

And yesterday also, the Rotary Club of Tortola called for "all hands on deck" to assist in the clean-up of Road Town.

39 Responses to “Help from UK relief ship rejected by Premier Smith”

  • just wrong (12/08/2017, 09:27) Like (54) Dislike (4) Reply
    I just don't get it. Here you have a first rate example of a positive reason to be a British Overseas Territory, and you turn down the support and offer of help? My problem is the apparent lack of caring for the good of the people of the BVI for some other foolish reason, which on the surface could only be something political to do with independent thought. This is dumber that dumb. Talk about being out of touch with reality. Wow !
    • Get a grip on yourself (12/08/2017, 10:05) Like (7) Dislike (59) Reply
      Not every stranger should you take gifts from. Learn to discern. Disaster...then gifts...then get familiar...then take over. We are living in a different time. Haiti and Jamaica are perfect examples. There is a fight among super powers (USA, UK, China, Russia) to control governments and the masses, and the Caribbean is NO EXCEPTION. Disasters and so call Climate Change and Agenda 21 (sustainable development theory) are the new tools to subtle takeover and domination.
      • lodger (12/08/2017, 10:34) Like (47) Dislike (1) Reply
        This help would have been from our own mother country. How could they take us over when they already own us?
      • @Get a grip (12/08/2017, 12:06) Like (36) Dislike (2) Reply
        "Not every stranger should you take gifts from." Get a grip -- whether people here like it or not, the BVI is a British territory! To act/speak as though it is not, is empty posturing.
        • . (13/08/2017, 08:36) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
          And by the way we, the BVIslanders, like it so! What the rest/the foreigners have to say is immaterial! Who don't like it, go home to Jamaica!
      • @Get a grip... (12/08/2017, 13:21) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
        Do you not see the glaring irony in your nickname?
      • OMG (12/08/2017, 19:28) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
        I hate to be the one to break it to you but the BRITISH Virgin Islands already belomg to them
    • Beverly Shmills (12/08/2017, 17:08) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
      When you live in your mansion away from the "small man" you eventually lose track of reality. I saw one pic of him on a news site...holding a cellphone and what looks like a shovel and not one drop of sweat lol photo opportunity out there like rice for some people.
  • Help (12/08/2017, 09:42) Like (33) Dislike (3) Reply
    Looks like ESHS could have used assistance.
  • Just saying (12/08/2017, 10:47) Like (19) Dislike (4) Reply
    This government cares little about the people
  • What a ting to tell the king (12/08/2017, 10:47) Like (5) Dislike (40) Reply
    No free lunches in life. If they wanted to do some thing they should go clean up the shoreline, but no they look for weed up the hill foolishness. Let them keep sailing into the sunset, we will take care of our own.
  • Tony Stark (12/08/2017, 11:07) Like (23) Dislike (2) Reply
    Now why would the U.K. Government want to control the the people of the BVI? Such nonsense, stop with the paranoia!
    I am at a loss as to why he stood down the RFA ship though, perhaps humble pie gives Doc a bad taste?
  • Freedom! (12/08/2017, 12:19) Like (11) Dislike (4) Reply
    People hungry and he rejecting help
  • Political Observer (PO) (12/08/2017, 12:29) Like (17) Dislike (2) Reply

    Why? Well sah, Mai boi! Just cannot fathom the decision to turn down the help from the UK ship. All around the territory people are complaining that the situation is horrible. Dr. Macthavious, acting governor, needs to show some courage and intervene. The territory needs the help so let's stop the nonsense. This is not good governance nor smart politics; it is not even good political correctedness. It is time for national unity, not politics. Politics will have a time and place later. Now is the time for all residents to pitch in and pull the wagon. It looks like it is going to be a rough season for the Vi, for one wave passed through but a next one is fast approaching. It is going to be a rough row to hoe for the BVI so it needs all the help it can get. There is no shame in asking for help. The $15M spent on fixing the roads was washed out to sea. More money is going to be needed to fix the roads. Please design, construct and maintain the roads properly; get experience people to construct the roads. Tola roads mash up and St. Thomas' functioning? The only silver lining in this dark, gathering cloud is that it may create the opportunity for some temporary employment. Will the economic boost make the economy robust? No.

  • Wendy (12/08/2017, 12:49) Like (10) Dislike (29) Reply
    I am with Doc on this one and if you don't t understand or don't know why then you have not been schooled.
  • First Mate (12/08/2017, 13:19) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
    Why should it come back? When it was here all people could do was moan about having a war ship on the dock where there should be a cruise ship. I said at the time, Disney isn't going to come help when we need it most. The Royal Navy will do though. Show some gratitude.
  • ..... (12/08/2017, 13:23) Like (6) Dislike (6) Reply
    This is crazy doc and the ndp has killed this country. We need the help let the ship come mehson
  • Kip (12/08/2017, 13:46) Like (10) Dislike (18) Reply
    Premier Dr The Hon D. Orlando Smith is not a mad man. BVI People have faith in your leaders it may seem perplexing but there is alot that they can't say publicly.. When you mind is conquered you can go nowhere. Lots of smart people in the Caribbean but we can't send a Satellite in space,make machinery ,feed ourselves or create vaccines.The seed of dependency is in our mental DNA across the region.
  • eyes wide shut (12/08/2017, 14:12) Like (4) Dislike (8) Reply

    "It is not clear if the help was rejected by this Government or whether the decision to not send the RFA Mounts Bay back to the VI was made by UK authorities and on whose assessment." The Premier didn't have to call back the shop when we are handling the situation with all the local help we have. Look most of the roads are motorable. No deaths, no hospitalization, no need for medical help. So why bring them here??? Then it would be correct to say we can't handle anything like this as a country and people.. we have to show big brother that we are capable and when it is beyond our control yes I agree call in help!! The help we not rejected. It was carefully considered and politically and correctly stood down. NOT REJECTED!

  • Well? (12/08/2017, 16:16) Like (1) Dislike (5) Reply
    They came and looked over the BVI for marijuana, peering into people's privacy and enforcing the war on drugs,
    on behalf of the UK. Do understand that is a show of purpose. The emergency and search and rescue aspects
    of the British Navy are fine, but then it gets muddied by the drug fetish. Using the military because someone
    has grown weed. I mean, really.
  • just wrong (12/08/2017, 19:03) Like (5) Dislike (2) Reply
    And then the BVI turns two cruise ships away next week. Would it have been all that bad for them to see a UK Navy ship helping the BVI clean up after the mess? I must be really dense not to understand the logic.
  • humble yourself (12/08/2017, 19:44) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. This farce of a "show" is all vanity.
  • Tadow (12/08/2017, 19:52) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
    The Premier don't have as much sense as the amount of hair a ground lizard has around his rear end.
  • cay (12/08/2017, 21:28) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    moo moo premier
  • Charley Rose (12/08/2017, 23:39) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    I think the Hon. Premier made a terrible mistake by rejecting the offer of assistance from the RFA ship. If the acting governor sees it appropriate to invite the ship on shore to provide assistance he will do so. After all this territory belongs to Britain and the acting governor can exercise his moral responsibility and invite the ship. The premier should realise that the acting governor, though he is a BVI national, has to perform his responsibility to ensure the citizens of this territory are safe.
    The decision of allowing the RFA to provide the necessary assistance is not a matter for the Premier to decide, however, it is the acting governor who is the head of State. Hon. Premier you have crossed the line and you will live to regret. The ship will eventually be allowed to come on shore if the Foreign and Commonwealth Office sees the necessity to provide assistance.
    • . (13/08/2017, 08:45) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      It is obvious the Premier is leading us along the path of folly named "independence" where we can join the economic misfortunes of all the rest independent Caribbean nations. When he succeeds no longer will we have to worry about immigration issues and work permit issues or indeed even labour issues. No one will try to come here to work as there will be about as much work to do here as there is in Jamaica.
  • indigenous (13/08/2017, 01:29) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Who are the people siding with the premier? First of all the people who are true Virginislanders should be the ones to speak. Those who run from their independent country to seek a living here must shut up. If you do not want to be under UK rule you can leave. Virginislanders have no where else to go. Britain is our mother country and we should accept the help when needed. Take a look at the Dutch and French territories. They progress because they respect their mother country. I guess too they are not overrun by foreigners. The natives of those countries make their decisions. Here the locals have no say. Time for the Primier to step down.
  • Food for thought (13/08/2017, 08:14) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    I believe the Premier and most residents of the BVI are grateful for the assistance that the HMG ship can give. However, we must give the suggestion by the Premier that 30K persons can do the job of cleaning up as the aftermath is not as bad as it could have been. The nay sayers and complainers need to get out and put in some time to do their part and the sooner the BVI would be back to normalcy. JUST DO IT ! STOP DISRESPECTING AND COMPLAINING ON THE HON. PREMIER ! At least Dr. Smith is doing his part. What are you doing? Please leave the politics out of this conversation !
  • UK Or Not? (13/08/2017, 08:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Here is to all of u who run down the UK Government ...help offered..help rejected. Why other help was offered and turned down? The territory is still in terrible state, roads and ghuts still not cleared, some people are still unable to leave their homes unless they do so by foot through muddy pathways and climbing over rock slides. If you noticed before everyone with heavy machinery used to run and clean up soon after one of these storms because they used to get paid now no one cares because the money not flowing . Hey i am all over the place but let me asked one question. With help rejected and all the other secrets do u think think we gone independant in secret or by saying no thanks to the UK we practicing to go on our own? By the way not even the Police out directing traffic anymore. We have a new traffic Cop Good Job member for the 4th district wear one of those reflective vest though and stay safe.
  • I Agree... (13/08/2017, 10:44) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    ...With the Premire. Initially I thought he was just being prideful but this is our country and there is 30k of us. Public works seems to be able to handle the clearing of the roads so the rest is up to the people. Let the parents and students go to clean the schools and let business owners clean their shops. This is our land and our country. We should have more pride in ourselves. We are resilient and not helpless children.

    Every week, someone brings up independence but we can't and don't even want to handle our own affairs amidst disaster?
  • Tadow (13/08/2017, 10:45) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Premier Smith, some year ago you and your government decided to take thirty thousand dollars of tax payer monies and send to a Caribbean country that had suffered flood damages. Premier Smith we are waiting patiently to see if this is going to be reciprocal. We are waiting.
    • @Talow (13/08/2017, 17:23) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      Do you really beleive the BVI will accept help from that Country when he refused the UK's? This is about pride meson...about pride.
  • My Goodness (13/08/2017, 13:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Yes we may have thirty thousand people living in the virgin Islands, out of those how many are children and how many are elderly. I think the premier should have accepted the help from the UK government period.
  • Doc again (13/08/2017, 16:56) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
    He don't want the UK to get a report on the infrastructure because they themself will ask for a report. If nothing else he could've accepted for the assistance at the school but they trying to mess with the children mind bout added credits. My child ain't going there tho. Those credits will have to come from somewhere else. But wait. Not even the school because then that too will end up been investigated. Lol ayo think the good Doc chupid. He know full well what he doing.
  • yea (14/08/2017, 09:08) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    At least our local people get a job and money in their pocket. Sometimes we belittled our own making we think that we is less then something and not getting a chance to see what we can do even tho we so small. They did a great job and they will continue to do a great job
  • Well Sah (14/08/2017, 10:49) Like (0) Dislike (3) Reply
    I have to concur with the Premier on this move. We can handle this.


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