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Has NDP deceived its people with NCL & DCL agreements?

- Why the big secrecy?? Agreement documents not at Registry as policy requires
The Government on behalf of the BVI Ports Authority inked what they called, the 15-year deals with Disney Cruise Line (DCL) and Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL) on January 17, 2014, which they claimed offered preferential berthing rights to the two companies and guarantees the Territory over 400,000 passengers starting in May 2015. Photo: VINO
National Democratic Party (NDP) led Government of Premier and Minister of Finance Dr. the Honourable D. Orlando Smith may have sold away the birth rights of its people when they entered into agreements last month with Norwegian Cruise Lines (NCL) and Disney Cruise Lines (DCL). Photo: VINO
National Democratic Party (NDP) led Government of Premier and Minister of Finance Dr. the Honourable D. Orlando Smith may have sold away the birth rights of its people when they entered into agreements last month with Norwegian Cruise Lines (NCL) and Disney Cruise Lines (DCL). Photo: VINO
DCL confidentiality section. Photo: VINO
DCL confidentiality section. Photo: VINO
NCL confidentiality section. Photo: VINO
NCL confidentiality section. Photo: VINO
In actual fact DCL has a period of 30 years. Photo: VINO
In actual fact DCL has a period of 30 years. Photo: VINO
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – One may be left with no resort but to conclude that the National Democratic Party (NDP) led Government of Premier and Minister of Finance Dr. the Honourable D. Orlando Smith may have sold away the birth rights of its people when they entered into agreements last month with Norwegian Cruise Lines (NCL) and Disney Cruise Lines (DCL).

The Government on behalf of the BVI Ports Authority inked what they called, the 15-year deals with Disney Cruise Line (DCL) and Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL) on January 17, 2014, which they claimed offered preferential berthing rights to the two companies and guarantees the Territory over 400,000 passengers starting in May 2015.

With this Smith Administration on record claiming to be the government in the sunshine Virgin Islands News Online  visited the Registry of High Courts in an attempt to follow protocol where all contracts are usually sent to be registered giving the public access to the documents.

However, we were told that the 15-year deal with Disney Cruise Line (DCL) and Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL) inked by the Government on the behalf of the BVI Ports Authority on January 17, 2014, with the usual media flare, was not there.

The officer suggested we check the Ministry of Natural Resources and Labour but wisdom led us to the office of the Premier. We were however referred by the Premier’s Office to the Ministry of Communications and Works when the responding telephone officer confirmed that the document is not for public release.

However,  we had many calls from both traditional sources inside the NDP Administration and some new sources offering us a copy of the document/signed contracts however,  because we wanted to maintain our well known media ethics in following procedures we held off from accepting the copies giving the Government some three weeks to make the document public.

NDP culture of secrecy

In the first instance one would ask the question why would this NDP government sign an agreement with two foreign companies agreeing to keep its contents a secret from its people. The answers are all locked in the documents and shows why the Virgin Islands Party (VIP) Opposition continues to say the NDP Administration cannot be trusted with the truth.

According to the agreement signed by the current government with DCL and NCL the Administration cannot make the agreement public information.

NCL confidentiality section states in part:

“The terms and conditions of this agreement and any information and data of any nature including, but not limited to, all data transmitted by and between the parties in connection with this agreement (whether before or after the effective date hereof), any customer sale information, technical, business plans, marketing, promotional, intellectual property, trade secrets,  technical and other non-public information which is designated as “confidential” by the disclosing Party shall be deemed “Confidential information”. The parties acknowledge that all rights to such confidential information disclosed to the receiving party, whether such confidential information is oral or written, are reserved by the disclosing party. Except as expressly permitted by this agreement, all confidential information (i) shall be held and protected by the recipient in strict confidence with at least the same degree of care that the recipient uses to safeguard its own confidential information; (ii) shall be used by the recipient only as required to render performance or to exercise rights and remedies under this agreement; (iii) shall not be produced or copied, in whole or in part, except as necessary for its authorized use under this agreement; and (iv) shall not be disclosed to any other third parties without the prior written consent of the disclosing party……..”

DCL confidentiality section states in part:

“Except as otherwise required by law or the regulations of any securities exchange or securities trading system, DCL and BVIPA agree not to disclose confidential information (as defined in this Article 13.1 below) to any third party other than to their respective directors, officers, employers and agents (and directors, officers, employees and agents of related or affiliated companies) and advisors (including legal, financial, insurance and accounting advisors) (collectively, “Representatives”), who: (i) have a definite need to know such information; (ii) have been duly apprised of the requirements of this Article, and (iii) are or will be bound to keep such information confidential as required herein…….. “Confidential information” also includes all documents, things and recording-bearing media disclosing or containing any of the foregoing information.”

Was the public misled? Agreement for 25 to 30 years

During the signing ceremony held a Friday afternoon [17 January 2014] the people were told that the deal with the two companies are for a period of fifteen year (15) respectively but is this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ‘so help this NDP Government’?

Also enshrined in the agreement document of DCL and NCL is a section captioned ‘Option to extend term’ which even the average high school child can read and recognized that this NDP government has not been forthcoming with the truth to its people, stating that the agreement is for a period of 15 years when in fact this companies have the rights to periods of 25 and 30 years respectively.

DCL option to extend term states, “DCL in its sole discretion, may extend the term for up to three (3) successive five (5) cruise year periods from and after the expiration of the initial term. DCL shall be deemed to have automatically exercised its option for an additional five cruise year period unless DCL delivers written notice to BVIPA of its election not to extend the term not later than sixteen (16) months periods to the date on which the initial term or any extended term is scheduled to expire pursuant to article 5.1 above……If as of the time of exercise of the second five-year  option, BVIPA has made substantial improvements to the project, the Head Charge may be increased so as to amortize said improvements over fifteen (15) years.”

So in actual fact DCL has a period of 30 years. In the instance of NCL the Extension term states:

“Norwegian shall have two (2) five year options to extend the term. Norwegian shall exercise shall exercise the first five (5) year option by delivery to BVIPA of an extension notice by the date which is no later than twenty four (24) months prior to the twentieth (20th) anniversary of the term commencement date.”

The overlying question that is now being asked by many we have shared this document with is, can this government be trusted to conduct the “People’s business” and report back to them nothing but the truth? Why would the government committed to holding information that should be public, in secrecy? Is this NDP government a private enterprise?

There is no doubt that this is ‘ting to talk’ and there is much more to come on this news site that will give further testimony that the people of the VI cannot put their trust in the hands of the government that they have elected to conduct their business.

94 Responses to “Has NDP deceived its people with NCL & DCL agreements?”

  • GoodSquad (04/02/2014, 08:51) Like (8) Dislike (2) Reply
    wow some one ha sto go to jail for this selling out of the country boss
    • shaw (04/02/2014, 11:35) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
      this is grounds for audit and disbarring any advisor. It is criminal and basically goes against government responsibility to protect and represent the people. To publicly infer that the deal was for 15 yrs when the companies are in the drivers seat for another 15 is criminal. Hello, UK??....
      • Queen (04/02/2014, 12:29) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
        the NDP has made me ashamed they worst that when they were in first
      • Yes (04/02/2014, 13:01) Like (2) Dislike (6) Reply

        You sound like an a..! An 'Option' to extend for 15yrs is just that, AN OPTION!!!!! It says they shall notify BVIPA of their intent to extend, but where does it say that BVIPA MUST EXTEND IT?? AH ha!! LOLOLOLOL!!! Show me in the contract where BVIPA must grant the extension if it's requested within the prescribed timeframe. The word 'options' is key here and there's nothing that says "The BVI PA 'SHALL' extend the period............."

  • Sigh! (04/02/2014, 08:54) Like (12) Dislike (6) Reply
    What they wanted is what they got! I still can not believe the people of the BVI were stupid enough to vote in NDP. #shakingmydamnhead | Makes you wonder whats next doesn't it ?!
  • Voters (04/02/2014, 08:54) Like (9) Dislike (3) Reply
    just the 105 reason why the NDP must go and go FAST
  • facts man (04/02/2014, 09:10) Like (7) Dislike (4) Reply
    oh no can't belive what I am reading VINO long live your news paper you will be remebered as help to save the BVI
  • J A Chris (04/02/2014, 09:13) Like (5) Dislike (2) Reply
    The invaders are back
  • insider (04/02/2014, 09:15) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    I smell a rat and what about the Miami account vino you sleeping
    • @ insider (04/02/2014, 13:47) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      tell us more please I taught the PAC had that one under control...stay turn
  • pat (04/02/2014, 09:17) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    'but is this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ‘so help this NDP Government’?..LOVE THIS LINE

  • lmao (04/02/2014, 09:30) Like (5) Dislike (10) Reply
    Are you serious? Confidentiality has to do with the actual information between both parties not the contract itself. All Government contracts are made public, this will be public by next month. These scare tactics won't work. Bring alternate solutions, not the same old invader tactics of 2007. It worked then because things were good, but it won't work now as people are seeing what's going on. Nice try though! lol...
    • he start blogging early (04/02/2014, 10:08) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
      then ncan i get a copy from you mvw..stop trying to fool the people boss you sick
    • Strupes (05/02/2014, 07:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      and don't bring the 2011 tactics of registering the young people them and others where they dont live. time longer than twine.
  • oh boy (04/02/2014, 09:38) Like (12) Dislike (2) Reply
    This deal seems to be riddled with corruption from the time the NDP got into office handling it. Why is this document being withheld from the public? Why is this matter not being investigated by the white collar crime unit?
  • One word (04/02/2014, 09:39) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
  • Ah saw (04/02/2014, 09:42) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
    I am totally disappointed in how the Governor is handling this matter seeing that he is over the police. This is a highly questionable matter that can only be solved by a formal criminal investigation.
    • Realist (04/02/2014, 11:24) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
      The colonialist from the uk doesn't care about your 3rd world corruption as long as it benefits them & their allies.
    • Realist (04/02/2014, 11:24) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      The colonialist from the uk doesn't care about your 3rd world corruption as long as it benefits them & their allies.
    • dral (04/02/2014, 11:38) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      You think he sleeping
  • Why (04/02/2014, 09:46) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
    Why this matter wasn't looked into from the time the Auditor General finished her report & found possible wrong doing. It seems like NDP is above the law.
  • ccc (04/02/2014, 09:47) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    I am speechless!
  • please (04/02/2014, 10:16) Like (0) Dislike (4) Reply
    These are options to extend which are standard in any contract of this nature, but don't let truth and facts get in the way of a good story
    • Dummy (04/02/2014, 13:54) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      TO PLEASE, but why its not registered tell me why you bias fool
    • l (04/02/2014, 14:01) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      The contract is a 30 year contract with 15 years being the cruise company's option.
      • ok (04/02/2014, 15:51) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
        What's the definition of 'Option' and where is the rest of Clause 5? You think we smoke our lunch or what? Cherry picking is dangerous.
  • CBN (04/02/2014, 10:48) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Who is responsible in the BVI to investigate Corruption? It is shameful what is going on here in this little Territory.. BTW where is the Attorney General Department in all this?
  • Yes (04/02/2014, 11:25) Like (3) Dislike (5) Reply
    These bloggers fingers have to be burning this morning. Same shit over and over with different names. The country needs investment and we getting it. Go take a damn seat.
  • pat (04/02/2014, 11:31) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    when the NDP signed off on development of 11 acres at smugglers cove way back when, the fine print allowed developers "first refusal" to develop the salt pond to the palm grove/ long bay (proposed park land). Beef Island allowed for a golf course in fisheries protected area. These people are notorious for the fine print. why would ANY government sign a document that forces confidentiality with the people's land and community? Also, I seem to remember passenger numbers reaching around 350K, so why would guaranteeing another 50K so important as to tie us up for 30 yrs- a time clearly rejected by residents?? Either ministers are completely ignorant and stupid, or they are slick and self-serving.
    • yea yea yea (04/02/2014, 16:51) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
      Pat you always with the same old tired story for years now. You want the BVI remain how 'you' want it and that's that. We need to look out for ourselves economically and development is a must. You never happy with anything put forward by anyone. If you were following the debate, the Government has decided to fund the project themselves which means they need financing. Financing doesn't come off gennip trees, the institutions want to see where the money is. None of the other cruise lines wanted to give BVI anything. The companies signed a BERTHING AGREEMENT, not the purchase of Road Town! Based on your comments I'm assuming you read the entire agreement right? Yea, uh huh!
      • pat (05/02/2014, 00:03) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        the question is not development itself but HOW. I have yet to see an agreement that considers all the arguments and consequences. the issue under discussion is transparency and hiding details in the fine print. How about ecotourism? How about dealing with the basics like water before locking in the next generation to an agreement they can't get out of? Since when is asking questions and holding ministers accountable a bad thing? That goes for financing too. where does it come from and what is at stake and do we give away the company store to get it. It is only common sense, something sorely lacking in your comment. and that goes for secrecy. I want internet, water, good roads, trash pick up, re-cycling, polite drivers, civil behavior, and that's what I want.
  • Interesting (04/02/2014, 11:33) Like (6) Dislike (13) Reply
    Seeing the Headline I read through the article expecting to be disappointed with the NDP, however after reading the article and only the article I see nothing wrong or misleading in there except the document was not readily available to the public. Privacy could mean; hiding from the BVI or could it also mean (NCL and DCL) not sharing with other companies like how some companies share your info with others without your permission.

    Could the BVI Government be held liable to any lawsuits for breaking the conditions of the contract by having this document posted online (to the world) that to me is a more damaging thing that government documents are leaked to the media.

    Also what if the BVI does well from the 15 years, isn't it smart to include in the contract the possibility of extension?

    I am not a voter of any party, nor have I ever voted.
    • nastiness (04/02/2014, 12:54) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
      Ayo too like to sweep things under the rug.
    • Eh? (04/02/2014, 12:57) Like (1) Dislike (4) Reply
      You are talking too much sense my friend and that's the problem. I am pretty sure the BVI has clauses in the same agreements that if certain criteria is not met throughout the 15yrs they too have the option of considering other parties to partner with. Why show us one side of the agreement? If you're not going to show the clauses where Government has legs then don't show it at all. Do people even know what 'Guarantee' means? They 'guarantee' us 425,000 visitors and even if you don't believe that, under the contract they have to PAY per head based on that figure. We get that guarantee on our end and you don't think the entities will want guarantees on their end? Boy oh boy.
    • Scary Mary (04/02/2014, 13:03) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
      The point you are missing is that the government led us to believe it was a "finite" 15 year agreement. The fact that the agreement can be extended by Disney to 30 years, and by Norwegian to 25 years AT THEIR SOLE DISCRETION and regardless of what the people of the BVI want in 15 year's time, is what people are upset about.

      No direct lie was involved, but no direct truth was involved either! Typical. SMH

      Whatever level of trust I once had towards certain players at the top, is completely gone. This is one time too many that the wool has been pulled over our eyes.
      • What? (04/02/2014, 13:12) Like (3) Dislike (8) Reply

        Scary Mary stop chatting s...!!! It is a 15 year agreement with an OPTION to extend. OPTION. Do you all understand English? If you go to the bank for a 25yr Mortgage, don't you have to OPTION to either refinance to reduce or increase the mortgage period in accordance with their requirements? It's no different here, stop digging for s... You all people are sickening really bad. In everything there is fine print, what is so 'indirect' about it? You all need to go back to school.

        • @ What? (04/02/2014, 13:43) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
          We have heard the people seeking the truth called many things.....chatting piss have never been one of them....VINO is on point with the truth, just can't wait to see how they will spin this.
        • @what? (04/02/2014, 14:13) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
          You don't know what you are saying. The example you gave is way different. At the end of the 15 years, all the cruise lines have to do is nothing, and the option automatically kicks in. They don't have to sign anything else or say anything to our government. In this case, they have the handle and we have the blade.
          • What? (04/02/2014, 14:19) Like (2) Dislike (4) Reply
            Where did you read that the option automatically clicks in? It said they have to request the extension. How can you judge an entire agreement based on a few clauses on their own? You all are the easiest bunch to fool and mislead. Nothing stated above says 'automatically' extended.
            • Village Girl (04/02/2014, 17:34) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
              Dig deeper into this agreement VINO, don't just jump into any fight with the defenders of wrong and corruption, when the deal comes out lots of men going be pissing!!!!! NDP is indeed the National Dose of Poison
    • @ Interesting (04/02/2014, 13:25) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      Dr. Smith's legacy and credibility are finished
  • fg (04/02/2014, 11:36) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
    And imagine it got more to come
  • ooooo (04/02/2014, 11:38) Like (10) Dislike (1) Reply
    this is far worst than the bi-water deal
    • Guess Again (04/02/2014, 12:39) Like (4) Dislike (7) Reply
      oh hell NO! Bi-Water deal is riddled with secrecy and the terms were not met hence the subsequent Novation Agreement with another Bi-Water company to cover up that fact that the terms were not met.

      People are not stupid.
  • i don't see it... (04/02/2014, 11:49) Like (3) Dislike (10) Reply
    ok so can someone tell me what is wrong if they have berthing agreements for that length of time, if they had berthing agreements with Carnival i guess it would have been ok though??? I'm trying to see how it is a sell out, now with the extension of the cruise pier then i guess berthing agreements can be made with Carnival and everyone will be happy. And what is wrong with keeping certain things confidential?? oh i forgot is tortola we are where everyone business is put on the street so why not put that on the street to.
    • l (04/02/2014, 14:07) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Extending the dock only means that bigger ships will be able to dock. It doesn't mean that more ships will be able to dock. It might only be a couple hundred feet.
    • Ha Ha (04/02/2014, 14:07) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      I predict once the full story on the ports dealing is made public this clown of a government will be ousted before the next elections
      • shaw (05/02/2014, 00:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        where is the auditor when we need one. we need an independent investigation.
  • west end police officer (04/02/2014, 12:30) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    but Mark Vanterpool done say the document will be made public did he miss spoke?
  • alcatraz (04/02/2014, 12:53) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    From captain to cook need locking up.
  • laughable (04/02/2014, 12:54) Like (4) Dislike (7) Reply
    Let me ask a question, who needs this arrangement the most, BVI or the cruise companies?? Your answer to that will probably enlighten you to why the agreements are worded how they are. When you go to the bank for a mortgage, the agreement is always in favor of the lender and not the borrower for obvious reasons. Why in BVI people seem to think that money is for nothing? At the end of the day, in order to keep cruise tourism viable they would've had to sign on with one of the major companies and these were the ones that agreed to give something back as all the others wanted what was for them and to hell with us. The revenue stream was explained time and time again so it's baffling as to why this is a negative thing. If I'm bringing increased revenues to your table, why can't I have favorable rights under the agreement? The agreement can only remain in force if the companies fulfill their obligations and that's the key part. If the country can benefit from additional revenues past the 15yrs how the hell is that a bad thing? One can't go without the other. An investment is made to reap monetary benefits, point blank. No international company is going to come here doing one-sided business, you get, I get, is that hard to grasp? Entering into agreements with entities that benefits the BVI is not selling out, it's making moves to ensure that we can keep almost 4000 locals in our civil service and pay pensions since they don't contribute. I haven't even touched in infrastructural, health and social needs. We need to stop being so stupid around here. When we find reason to protest and call for explanation we should do so. But we should not be grasping at straws which this is a perfect example of. I'm not political, I'm 100% BVI! It sickens me to see us behave like little kids with serious affairs. International reputable entities with confidentiality clauses in their long-term agreements and there must be something up. Really? Everybody can point fingers but nobody can tell me an alternative to what was done. Just bitch and moan about everything.
    • which is it? (04/02/2014, 13:18) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
      Either this NDP government is very smart and we completely failed to get this country back on track. Or they very stupid and negotiations with the devil to sell us out!!
    • @ laughable (04/02/2014, 14:00) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      Once the average bvi citizen has a bit more "skin in the game" and gets a hold of these contracts I suspect public pressure to get them out of office before 2015 will truly start!!!
    • l (04/02/2014, 14:05) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
      I am not saying it is a bad thing. It is the principle. The agreement should be made available to the public. Why isn't this being done. Why say the contract is for 15 years fully well knowing that it is potentally a 30 contract. Half the truth is equal to a whole lie.
    • NDP All the way (04/02/2014, 14:10) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      Although I remain a strong NDP supporter, but I am increasingly dismayed at their commitment to good governance and transparency
    • i don't see it.... (04/02/2014, 14:10) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      laughable you took the words right out my mouth, unless you putting the money directly in their hands then you can never please some of them.
  • ann (04/02/2014, 13:11) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    isn't it time FOR DR. SMITH AND HE CREW to pack up and get out?
  • one eye roster (04/02/2014, 13:16) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
    where is governor McClearly in the face of so much reckless issues UK come save the BVI
  • DON Q (04/02/2014, 13:22) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well who would have thought the government with all the bright boys would have sold us out again?
  • cannot believe (04/02/2014, 13:31) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
    this cannot be the Governement that I voted for. i am really disapointed. God help us
  • sore loser (04/02/2014, 13:49) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    What we need to do is to reinstate days of street protest and march and shut the BVI down in protest
  • farmer brown (04/02/2014, 13:57) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    The cost/benefit balance of this GREEMENT mandates withdrawal
  • Shane (04/02/2014, 14:30) Like (2) Dislike (3) Reply
    I am sure that the Attorney General Chambers would have review this contrac prior to its signing. So why is everyone up in arms over this? Puff of smoke for no reason. People need to take a pill and chill.
  • question (04/02/2014, 14:51) Like (4) Dislike (4) Reply

    All who have read the entire agreement and all Clauses raise your hands? Now, all who are bashing the Government based on bits and pieces of an agreement, raise your hands? All who have ever entered into an agreement before, please cut out 2 clauses from the entire agreement, put them by themselves and tell me how it would look to a third-party who never had the opportunity to see the entire agreement. When the entire agreement is made public then I will comment, until then this is all a pi....g contest.

  • Hmm (04/02/2014, 14:55) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    It is absolutely idiotic to think that you can trust the NDP after the 2003-2007 experience
  • Eh? (04/02/2014, 15:49) Like (6) Dislike (6) Reply
    If only we had this level of investigative reporting for Biwater, Med School study, Cline consultancy with Min. of Education, Sea Cows Bay Harbor project and why it was issued a stop order despite being pushed ahead by a member of Cabinet. If only eh? If only!!! LMAO!!
    • 18 now (04/02/2014, 17:06) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      About two years ago when I was a teenager I was travelling in a taxi from East End to Pockwood Pond. I was the only black in the car, the rest of the passengers and driver were of Indian/Guyanese background. They were talking about the state of the country, and the driver said the BVI is not poor, according to him what we have is poor mentality. The first two years under the NDP were wasted; I pray we don't waste another two years repeating the mistakes of the past.
    • @ Eh? (04/02/2014, 17:10) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      This is ludicrous you had the PAC from 2007 to 2011 why the hell you did not investigate
  • Native Boy (04/02/2014, 17:15) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    I will preface by saying yes, we need a port expansion deal! But for heaven sake lets have some transparency and good governance...the Minister of Works done say it’s a public document why the fuss release the damm thing to the public man
  • Next election (04/02/2014, 19:50) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    I just got a copy of this deal trust me it's appuling
    • shaw (05/02/2014, 00:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      give us a steady stream of postings and summaries so that we can understand what is going on!
  • A. Fahie (05/02/2014, 00:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
  • please (05/02/2014, 07:38) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    get a copy of the document, read and understand for yourself; enough is enough
  • quest (05/02/2014, 09:50) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Can we accept another two years of this?
  • jail (05/02/2014, 15:43) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Just too much white color crimes end of story
  • HeHe (05/02/2014, 16:46) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    These degenerates are making sure that they are all millionaires before the next election, because they know that we are kicking all their a$$ses to the curb. I am a part of the problem because I voted NDP all the way. I am sooooo disappointed. One of the ministers was my class mate, and if anyone had told me back then that he was capable of participating in corruptive behaviour, I would have put my neck on the block that he couldn't. With God all things are possible. I have faith in God that He will deliver us.
  • jtv (06/02/2014, 00:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    yes they decieved us
  • Real (06/02/2014, 18:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    deceived is joke we got hood wink
  • eye (08/02/2014, 15:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    we will see the light
  • next (09/02/2014, 07:47) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    but they continue to deceived and le to us
  • open (10/02/2014, 14:24) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    No surprise there.

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