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Granny says she would be in 'Balo' if grandchild was given Pine Sol

- Hon Turnbull promises to not go silent on the issue
The issue of a student allegedly given Pine Sol to gargle came up for discussion at a community meeting held by Second District Representative, Hon Melvin M. Turnbull at the Ivan Dawson Primary School on Monday, February 10, 2020. Photo: VINO
Second District Representative, Hon Melvin M. Turnbull has said he will not go silent on the issue of a student of the Ivan Dawson Primary School being given Pine Sol to gargle. Photo: VINO
Second District Representative, Hon Melvin M. Turnbull has said he will not go silent on the issue of a student of the Ivan Dawson Primary School being given Pine Sol to gargle. Photo: VINO
 The issue of a teacher allegedly giving a student Pine Sol to gargle at the Ivan Dawson Primary School has sparked outrage. Photo: VINO
The issue of a teacher allegedly giving a student Pine Sol to gargle at the Ivan Dawson Primary School has sparked outrage. Photo: VINO
CANE GARDEN BAY, Tortola, VI- As the Territory patiently awaits the outcome of the investigation on the incident where a teacher allegedly gave a student Pine Sol to gargle as punishment for using 'bad words', one grandmother said the matter disgusted her to the point that she believes if the incident had happened to one of her grandchildren, she would have been an inmate of Her Majesty’s Prison (HMP) in Balsam Ghut.

The grandmother, whose name is not known, was addressing the issue during a community meeting held by Second District Representative, Hon Melvin M. Turnbull (R2) at the Ivan Dawson Primary School on Monday, February 10, 2020.

She said, “I have two grandchildren in this school, and I wouldn’t like if that happened to one of them. I would have been up Balo [Balsam Ghut]. We have to do something about it. Since it happened, they should have done tell us something about it. The children are confused, they are not performing as they should and the teachers who knows about it they need to go home, they don’t need to be around children.”

She even had some words for the Minister responsible for Education, Dr the Honourable Natalio D. Wheatley (R7).

She remarked: “If that was up East End where Mr Wheatley [is] he wouldn’t have liked that if it was his child or grandchild. And, if we don’t get an answer we have to march for the children.” 

Hon Wheatley has said the matter is being investigated and a decision will then be made by the Teaching Service Commission.

I will speak!

Meanwhile, Hon Turnbull said he would not be silent on the issue.

“What I am not going to do is be silent because, at the end of the day, all of us have children and or grandchildren attending school. And, if it was anyone of us, everybody knows what their reactions and their behaviours would have been. It is just simply not acceptable! It is a crime against children. The Juvenile and Young Persons’ Act states the different forms of abuse; that’s one of them,” he remarked.

“We cannot let it be swept under the rug. I do not want the teacher’s life to be destroyed, nor would I throw all teachers and educators in the same bus, but something must happen, because I will tell you what I told the parents: “sue the government”. Because the students are in the teacher’s care and the teachers are the responsibilities of the government,” he added. 

The Opposition legislator said he was not in agreement with the approach of the Ministry of Education adding, “Anywhere else in the world there would be a different course of action and the fact that it was held for so long and on top of that you are hearing how much more incidents in this school and others have occurred.”

He said he would be meeting with the principal of the Ivan Dawson Primary this week and will be seeking answers from the Ministry on the status of the probe.

“What was supposed to happen is there was supposed to be a report by today, and today has come and gone. A report needs to come out by tomorrow so we could know what actions were taken,” Turnbull pointed out.

One resident teacher said the teacher who allegedly committed the act is not working at the moment; however, the students, teachers, and community are all anxious as to the end result of this matter.

30 Responses to “Granny says she would be in 'Balo' if grandchild was given Pine Sol”

  • 284 (11/02/2020, 10:02) Like (18) Dislike (2) Reply
    She’s a real granny
    • Another Granny (11/02/2020, 14:53) Like (11) Dislike (6) Reply
      My little granddaughter also attends that school and so help me a teacher or any staff had done that to my granddaughter, the RVIPF would have had to send out the gun squad to get me. I am 65 years old and I would do some serious damage to anyone if they mess with my granddaughter.
  • Pissy bed (11/02/2020, 10:03) Like (28) Dislike (26) Reply
    Hon mitch calm down stop throwing gas on the fire
  • CGB resident (11/02/2020, 10:05) Like (12) Dislike (9) Reply
    Best thing NDP 1 and 2 could do is war so only thing I disappointed VIP too soft on them. NDP will kill you if you sneeze and VIP up and down playing with them. Them little boys should never ever be district representatives.
    • CGB too (11/02/2020, 13:51) Like (11) Dislike (6) Reply
      He is there to stay , we voting him time and time again so you need to shut up and stick to the issue ahead NO TEACHER HAS A RIGHT TO DICIPLINE ANY CHILD IN THIS MANNER NOT EVEN YOUR CHILD
    • CGB too (11/02/2020, 14:16) Like (7) Dislike (7) Reply
      Politics has nothing to do with this issue NDP VIP PPP DPP WMP what Ever P it is no child deserves that treatment No Dog deserves that no animal should be given this to digest so do not cover the wrong that was done to the child with politics Mitch is a parent that is why he is so passionate about getting a solution, and I hope all our elected persons should do the same make sure this does not happen again.
  • easy solution (11/02/2020, 10:52) Like (35) Dislike (0) Reply
    Clearly the teacher must be let go.
    The child's life was actually in danger.
    This is assault and must be treated as such..
  • Guilty (11/02/2020, 12:20) Like (31) Dislike (3) Reply

    I agree with granny. The teacher and whatever other teachers who knew shouldn’t be around children. And the principal needs to be dealt with as well as I am sure she wasn’t the one who reported it. Who is really protecting the children?

    • my my my (16/02/2020, 06:45) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Then to top it off, the Minister refers to the action as a MISTAKE. A mistake would have been if there were two bottles on the desk and the teacher took the wrong bottle and gave it to the Child. This matter is going to be swept under the rug like a lot of other matters, the teacher is going to be moved to the Ministry for a while and then put back in a classroom. The Minister needs to get serious, he is not cutting the mustard.
  • EVERYONE (11/02/2020, 13:35) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    All those know actually knows those who killed anyone in the BVI / have video /pictures etc with their social media) but never reported it should be charge and fine as if they did the crime. Think about it.
  • Line in the sand (11/02/2020, 13:42) Like (1) Dislike (8) Reply
    Those without sin throw the first stone.
  • Charley Rose (11/02/2020, 14:59) Like (13) Dislike (16) Reply
    I am a parent and I don't condone the teacher's action towards the student. However, everyone casting aspersion on the teacher. I do agree that she was not suppose to use Pine-Sol. No one has ever mentioned what the student did to warrant the teacher's action. It might be a wake up call for others students to conduct themselves in an appropriate manner in school.

    According to my information the student was using obscene language at school and the teacher told the students that they need to clean their mouths. The advocate for the removal of the teacher form the school system will not solve the problem in the school and community. What should be done is for the community to advocate for the students to display appropriate behaviour and be attentive to their education, that will result in a better Virgin Islands.
    • Dead case (11/02/2020, 18:59) Like (7) Dislike (18) Reply
      @ Charley Rose I agrees with you. Because you seems to have more sense than Mitch, Granny, The people of Cane Garden Bay, other teachers, the parent of that rude ass child, Natalio and of course these bloggers! Everybody is on the teacher case, perhaps if the mother had raise her daughter instead of raising an uncontrollable ruse ass animal then this wouldn't have happen! Discipline begins at home! Mitch should be ashamed of himself, especially seeing that he is a Christian! I'm very disappointed in mitch and his constituency..
      • @Dead Case (11/02/2020, 22:24) Like (6) Dislike (5) Reply

        Just who the @#$% are you to pass such judgement. Let’s see, a childless I can’t procreate barren mule perhaps?

      • @Dead Case (12/02/2020, 00:53) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
        You too must have ate lead based paint chips as a child. I feel sorry for you as your comment is based on ignorance.
      • @Dead Case (12/02/2020, 12:07) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
        What a kind of human being are you ? First you condone what the teacher did , secondly you refer to the child as an animal, I think you need to come clean and identify yourself so we can make sure our kids and elderly stay clear of you. If you want to do this teacher a favor please apologise to the child and parent I can assure you the teacher herself would like that . And if you have any kids, elderly or animals in your care they should be removed immediately thats how DANGEROUS YOU ARE.
    • @ Charley Rose (11/02/2020, 20:34) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
      What a warp thinking. This is an adult teacher who should know better. She needs removing from the school. The child used cursed words okay then find another form of discipline if she felt offended. She abuse her powers as a teacher and assault abuse that child.

      I am so glad it is not my child as this teacher would be gargling pine sol too. Sickening!!!! Would you feel good if anyone ill-treated your child in such manner? I sure not.
    • @charley rose (12/02/2020, 00:50) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
      Did you drink pinesol as a child that cause the backwards thinking? Don't you understand that this is no less than unacceptable? Check around your living quarters for lead based paint...you are a slow one in terms of comprehension.
  • plain and simple (11/02/2020, 15:02) Like (17) Dislike (2) Reply
    Please do the right thing and dismiss the teacher. She put a child in danger. The thing that keeps running around in my head is I am thank full that the child is ok but, if the child had died from an allergic reaction due to the chemical that was placed in said child’s mouth, they would have blamed the mother for something she did not do. Who would think a teacher would put Pine Sol in a student’s mouth.
  • 2 faced (11/02/2020, 18:47) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
    There should be equal treatment across the board. Not too long ago a toddler was brutally and physically assauted by a teacher in a daycare center. The identity of the establishment,its location,owner of the establishment ,the teacher was never identified. The toddler child could not report verbally but physical evidence such as bruises were on the child. If memory serves me, the teacher had reacted violently to the child for having a potty accident. The education system should take responsibility for its contribution to the Ivan Dawson incident. Covering up other incidents has given teachers the green light..
    In all fairness and show of sincerity, revisit reported incidents systemwide within the past year or so and take necessary disciplinary action.



    • agreed (12/02/2020, 14:18) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      Uncover the incidences that have been covered up. Not doing so suggests that this noise we are now hearng is simply pretense.
      I agree that the past previous and recent nonreaction by the ministry education,child services and the VI police Dept are all culpable in permitting this culture of teacher violence against children within the schools. They are no less guilty than this teacher and should be held accountable.




  • Seriously (11/02/2020, 19:44) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    This “teacher” should be restrained from being put in a position of in loco parentis and put through an amount of childcare training and then some punishment in the form of hard labour or possibly a short custodial sentence. There is no mitigating that she administered a poison to a child and while corrective punishment is necessary for her, there also needs to be an example set that any similar behaviour will be dealt with severely.

    The point about the very poor levels of discipline and family standards that people are making have merit but that is a separate issue. What she did cannot be condoned or excused.
  • Mark (12/02/2020, 06:30) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
    I from the East and i supported Wheatley. I do not want to hear this will be investigated, the teacher admit to it. She should be fired and charged. Thats what i want to hear, why they still playjng around?
  • due Process (12/02/2020, 08:15) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    I read stories in the Old South in the USA in the early 1900's where people behaved like this. They broke black men out of jail before any trial and lynched them.

    The Minister said he is doing an investigation and will then take action. Yet before all that is done, here we have an HOA member inciting people to mob behavior.
  • ha (14/02/2020, 18:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    That damn hog looking heifer. Her and who she belong to always have their noses up at others now look at the deserving embarrassment she has to face. Pride comes before the fall.
  • Here is a clue (15/02/2020, 19:46) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Remember the Granny in the news a year ago? For allegedly pushing a teacher in Anegada? Some were quick to blog and bash cause only one side of story was out. Here is a hint.... that teacher involved was allegedly mistreating students.... here is the catch... the Principal was fully aware AND fully bent on protecting the teacher. Even after that incident, several other parents came forward with even worse allegations than Grandma
    Guess who the Principal was???
    A Leopard will not ... and cannot change it's stripes
  • hello (16/02/2020, 06:36) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Mr. Minister for Education, the Department of Education and the Staff at the Teaching Institutions are making you look bad. The teachers at ESHS are targeting/victimizing students from a particular district. The previous minister had a mind of his own and did not allow them to make him look bad. Get a spine. Do not wait until a teacher seriously harms a child or a child retaliates and harms a teacher. There is a lot of mess going on in our schools that we cannot blame our students for. Grow some balls, get rid of those teachers who do not love children but are in this for the long summer vacation, get rid of the persons in education who have passed their expiration date and are only there to mess up the system and people's children.


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