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Gov Jaspert ‘in a difficult position’ to apologise – CoP Matthews

- calls for UK Gov’t, however, to open dialogue on slave history & reparations
UK National and Commissioner of Police, Mr Michael B. Matthews says the Governor of the Virgin Islands, Mr Augustus J.U. Jasper is in a difficult position to apologise for comments he made regarding the UK not paying slavery reparations to the ancestors of slavery in the VI. Photo: Twitter
 On Monday, September 7, 2020, during an interview with 284 Media, Mr Jaspert said paying reparations to the VI for acts of slavery and the slave trade is not the position of the UK at the moment. Photo: Facebook/File
On Monday, September 7, 2020, during an interview with 284 Media, Mr Jaspert said paying reparations to the VI for acts of slavery and the slave trade is not the position of the UK at the moment. Photo: Facebook/File
Leading the calls for an apology is Commentator Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline, right, who has asked for Governor Augustus J. U. Jaspert, to apologise for his unartful comments on reparations and has been counting the days that no apology is made. Photo: VINO/File
Leading the calls for an apology is Commentator Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline, right, who has asked for Governor Augustus J. U. Jaspert, to apologise for his unartful comments on reparations and has been counting the days that no apology is made. Photo: VINO/File
BAUGHERS BAY, Tortola, VI – United Kingdom (UK) national and Commissioner of Police, Mr Michael B. Matthews says the Governor of the Virgin Islands, Mr Augustus J.U. Jaspert is in a difficult position to apologise for comments he made regarding the UK not paying reparations to the descendants of slaves in the VI.

The Commissioner was at the time speaking as a guest on the Tuesday, October 27, 2020, edition of the ‘Honestly Speaking’ radio show when moderator Claude O. Skelton asked for his position on the topic.

Slavery remains a stain on the UK – CoP Matthews

“I've followed the media response on the points that you raised and the first point I will make, is look, as you've rightly said as a white British guy, I'm not even sure I can put myself in the shoes of a black nation whose ancestors suffered at the hands of white people,” CoP Matthews said.

“It's a stain on the history of the UK and certainly… British people of today aren’t proud of that, although…not every person from the UK has relatives that were slavers, same as not every black person as relatives who were slaves.”

The Commissioner said that while he understands the emotion that comes with reflecting about slavery, he said reparations is a question that only governments can determine at the end of the day.

The Governor On Monday, September 7, 2020, during an interview with 284 Media, said paying reparations to the VI for acts of slavery and the slave trade is not the position of the UK at the moment.  

He also called for relics of slavery such as the channel named after slave owner Sir Francis Drake to be preserved in the Territory, causing community outrage and several persons publicly called for the Governor to apologise for the statements.

Governor apologising is Queen apologising – CoP Matthews

According to CoP Matthews, “I suppose my only point that I can make... you're asking the Queen for an apology because of course, Governor Jaspert is the Head of State, he is the Queen's representative, he's here doing her will, her bidding.”

He said it, therefore, becomes difficult to be looking to the Queen for an apology, “How do BVIslanders who are her Majesty’s subject, ask Her Majesty for an apology…. and for me, we have to take that with the personality out of it, you know it's not about the Governor,” CoP Matthews said.

“So, I think he [Governor Jaspert] is in a difficult position, I don't see he can personally apologise on behalf of the Queen and I think that's a difficult one,” the ToP CoP commented.

40 Responses to “Gov Jaspert ‘in a difficult position’ to apologise – CoP Matthews”

  • BVI (31/10/2020, 12:03) Like (33) Dislike (12) Reply
    Ahyou leave my boy Governor Jaspert alone pls. When it had slavery none of us was around. What if the offered £100million for slavery it still wont be enough for us so plz leave de man for God sake.
    • @ local boy (31/10/2020, 14:44) Like (11) Dislike (10) Reply
      My people please keep fighting racism and white supremacy
      • HMMM (31/10/2020, 16:20) Like (20) Dislike (7) Reply
        Why don't you stand up against the abuse of authority and black on black crimes here too.
        • @ Strupes (31/10/2020, 18:08) Like (9) Dislike (7) Reply
          No we will not be distracted all racist and people who do not care about our history must go
    • By his deeds (31/10/2020, 21:36) Like (7) Dislike (6) Reply
      No, wrong mentality. When the governor does right, he must be supported. When he does wrong, he must be held accountable. He refuses to be held accountable. But why? Would that be placing himself on the same lower level that he sees everyone else on, I.e. the queen's subjects? Haha, some brits make me laugh. The folly AND the nerve! Listen Gov, in this day and age everyone sees everyone as a human being, you are no more special than the ordinary man so please humble yourself and apologise as ignorance and pompousness is not a good look especially for someone assigned such an important position. Not looking too good right now. Is this how your legacy will go down in the history books? Such a shame though.
    • josiah'sbay (01/11/2020, 19:31) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      I would wager that most people who subscribe to "it was a long time ago and none of us are currently enslaved" have done very little reading on slavery and its affect. We are an OT which is a sub category of enslavement. We are not self determinant, which part of that you don't understand? Some of us wants our cake and to eat it too. If we fail to make a decision on our future we will eventually be made full citizens of the UK and they will be full citizens of the VI with equal rights and privileges for all. Think of the ramification of such status.
  • cgb (31/10/2020, 12:12) Like (10) Dislike (10) Reply
    Two pease in a pod
  • prince (31/10/2020, 13:53) Like (11) Dislike (2) Reply
    COMMISSIONER PLEASE DO NOT STUDY THE STUPIDNESS THAT THE GOVERNOR SHOULD APOLIZIGE THE GOVERNOR DOES NOR KNOW ANY THING ABOUT SLAVERY IN THE BVI WHAT WVER NEED TO BE DONE ENGLAND NEEDS TO DO THAT, THE GOVERNOR IS RIGHT IF THEY HAD TREAT HIN LIKE A GOVERNOR THEN HE WOULD HAVE TALK TO ENGLAND AND ENGLAND MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING BUT THE BVI GOT ON LIKE A EDIOT SO LET THEM TEK WHAT THEM GET DO NOT GET CAUGHT UP SLAVERY OF THAT ERA DONE GO ALONG AND ENYOY YOUR SELF GOVERNOR AND TO YOU CHIEF
  • White man burden (31/10/2020, 14:42) Like (10) Dislike (8) Reply
    One white boy looking out for the other
  • one sided (31/10/2020, 14:44) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    Go tell that to the Jews
  • Lb (31/10/2020, 14:57) Like (9) Dislike (5) Reply
    Did he say that not every black person has relatives who were slaves? In the Caribbean? I don't know any black person who isnt a slave descendant unless they are from Africa and even then. Shows that he still doesn't understand the issue. While his ancestors may not have been wealthy enough to be a slave owner, I'm sure they condoned the practice and benefitted from it. I'm sure they treated slaves horribly whether they owned them or not.
    • Quiet Warrior (31/10/2020, 17:41) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
      @LB, real talk. E. Leonard, your points are strong and airtight. All the haters will be able to do is hit the dislike buttons, for they cannot honestly counter with facts.
    • Yoo Hoo (01/11/2020, 18:05) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Without any effort, I can name blacks not descended from slavery, here in the BVI, for what that is worth. Oh, by the way, do you carry a UK Passport? Then you are a subject of the queen. It's a technical term, not a social one.
  • Selfish Minds (31/10/2020, 15:15) Like (11) Dislike (8) Reply
    You all don’t done??!!!??

    You more concerned about reparations instead the debt you owe to Christ.
    • What? (31/10/2020, 21:20) Like (3) Dislike (6) Reply
      What? Jesus paid it all.

      Anyways, to the CoP, if the governor's apology would be the queens apology then that means that when the governor MISSPOKE then the queen also misspoke and certainly the appropriate thing to do would be to correct oneself, whether via an apology or otherwise. I think the governors statement concerning preserving names of places named after slave owners could not possibly have come from the queen as I have been led to believe that she is certainly more sensible and more careful and selective in her words than that. Please do not insult her royal highness. I think it must have been the governors personal statement and personal ignorance and therefore he must personally apologise.
    • hey (01/11/2020, 19:48) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Christianity is apart of slavery. Ill leave you to fill in the blanks
  • E. Leonard (31/10/2020, 15:15) Like (8) Dislike (6) Reply
    Senior civil servants are hired to advise elected or appointed officials based on their experience in public affairs, technical knowledge ……etc to effectively develop and implement public policies. Particularly, foreign service/diplomatic staff are expected to be especially skilled at representing the positions of the countries they represent without insulting the people in which they serve while not causing an international incident. Governor Augustus Jaspert is representing the UK government/Crown but he is responsible and accountable for his own words.

    Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II didn’t utter the explosive and disrespectful words on reparation to the 284 Media; Governor Jaspert did and he should be the one to apologize. Are we saying that because Governor Jaspert is representing the UK government/Crown and is the de facto head of state that he is not personally responsible and accountable for his own words? If so the UK may as well just send a robot to represent it.

    In case we forget, we are living in the 21st Century, not in the Dark Ages. The notion that it is inappropriate for supposed subjects to expect an apology from the Monarchy for disrespecting and disparaging other human beings(Blacks) that have been dehumanized, brutalized and exploited for centuries by others (Whites) for their personal benefit is preposterous. Is it surprising to anyone that CoP Matthews sided with Governor Jaspert, as well as harbour the conviction that it was inappropriate to expect an apology from Her Majesty QEII? Is reparation just an unearned hand out?

    Slavery was one of the UK’s greatest sin. It was barbaric and dehumanized, brutalized, marginalized, exploited…….etc people/slaves of African descent. The dehumanizing action seemed to have removed the guilt of ill-treating slaves. Slavery, slave traders, purchasers, processors, colonialism, imperialism........etc created great wealth for many Britons. Slave labour built the UK economy, fueled industrial capitalism, capitalized the industrial revolution……etc. Slavery also give birth to White hierarchy, supremacy and privilege.White privilege created preferential opportunities and advantages in health, education, jobs/employment, housing, social services, police protection, legalized segregation ……..etc for slave owners and their descendants. Slavery created and sustained many extractive institutions that served the elites well at the expense of slaves. These extractive institutions have not gone away.

    Moreover, everyone but slaves and their descendants benefited greatly from slavery. Slaves were the prime factor of production but benefited the least, if at all, from slavery. They could not earn property, trade, deprive of proper education, health, housing, police protecting, nutrition, employment; deprive of opportunity to build wealth and pass on an inheritance..........etc. Additinally, in 1833 under the Abolition Act, the UK borrowed and appropriated £20M to compensate slave-owning families; the families of many current prominent Britons were compensated. The loan was paid off in 2015. However, to date, the slaves’ descendants have not received even a farthing. And they cannot even get a simple, half-hearted apology for an inartful comment from a sitting Governor. By the way, is there a difference between slavery and subjects or colonialism and neocolonialism?
    • @E. Leonard (01/11/2020, 07:48) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
      You usually present the best thought out and clearest responses to news articles in the BVI. You are also the only person who consistently writes something that is actually close to being a blog. Nonetheless, I am going to dispute your wilful ignorance of the facts around Jaspert's statements.

      He is here to represent the Queen and her government. He therefore CANNOT say anything about reparations other than state the UK policy.

      He COULD have stated a personal view on renaming Francis Drake Channel etc that supports that renaming, but instead he chose to state a view that supports the status quo. I believe this is very much missing the mark and not in tune with the shifts prompted by the BLM and associated movements; HOWEVER it is neither for nor against UK Gov Policy because no real policy exists on renaming of historical landmarks.

      The only thing that does exist is the UK Gov position on not paying reparations, over which Jaspert has no choice but to toe the line. Therefore, criticise the UK Gov policy by all means, but you cannot criticise the Governor for REPEATING that policy.
      • E. Leonard (01/11/2020, 13:12) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        @ @E. Leonard, each of us has and is entitled to our own opinion(s) on issues. And as a practice, I tend to respect others opinion(s) . As such, I stand firm in my opinion that Governor Jaspert is responsible and accountable for his own words, not the Queen, regardless if he is representing the Queen. A representative of any country, agency, department, division, organization.....etc must have the skill sets to effectively communicate and represent the position(s) of the institution he/she represent without insulting, degrading, disrespecting or marginalizing others, especially people, ie, Blacks......etc who for centuries have been dehumanized, brutalized, disrespected, disparaged, exploited and marginalized.

        Furthermore, if a governor cannot effectively represent the UK’s position without hiding behind the Queen’s coat tail, perhaps, the crown would be better serve by just sending a robot to represent it.

        Frankly, hiding behind the Queen coat tail is just an excuse. The action/behaviour is weak, lack courage or even worst.......The UK would have been better serve by kicking the can down the road. Now, it is clear that the UK don’t give a rat’s ass about slavery or the harm that inflicted on Blacks. In kicking the can down the road, what could the Governor have had said: Slavery was a horrific act against Blacks and in looking back the UK government and people are saddened by it. However, the UK is exploring ways to make slave descendants whole.
    • Ajic (02/11/2020, 13:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Strupes. You people need to get a life and stop trying to drum up controversy where there is none. The Governor owes nobody any apologies. The last time I checked he didnt have any of you in bondage.
  • Honestly (31/10/2020, 16:18) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
    Wow!
    you people want the most from the Governor, while you sit and encourage the injustice committed upon others by your own authority so please... Go sidung
    • @ honestly (01/11/2020, 01:07) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
      We will not be distracted and allow a white supremist to get off the hook!!! we the people of the bvi demand an immediate apology
      • wow (02/11/2020, 13:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        You all watch too much American news. Some of you all need to go find something constructive to do to build up the community in these hard times instead of concentrating on rubbish.
  • Miss Mavis (31/10/2020, 16:23) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    We expect you to back him up Mick
  • Ghost (31/10/2020, 16:26) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    “How do BVIslanders who are her Majesty’s subject, ask Her Majesty for an apology“.. E: Leonard I agree with you wholeheartedly.. the above quoted statement in itself speaks volume .this is saying that the queen can say whatever she wants to anyone one of the Br. Overseas Territories and it’s “supposed” to be ok even if she dehumanizes/insults us in any way?.. this is so wrong but I am not surprise the the top cop would join with the Gov. they were “his” words and he is responsible for what he said.. he could have been the queen’s husband - “his” words. but like I said before, we are beating a dead horse..at times I have to remember that it’s not just Our people that have been enslaved; God’s own people were in Egypt as well.. but they will all pay the price for their injustices.. God don’t sleep..
    • Really (03/11/2020, 04:38) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      The first apology needs to come from your Black ancestors in Africa who sold you in the first place. Go get that apology and reparations first.
  • Na (31/10/2020, 17:09) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    This thing come like old time days when u make lemonade and u don't have enough suger to put in it ( sour )
  • from buckingham palace (31/10/2020, 17:32) Like (12) Dislike (3) Reply
    Reparation for WHAT!?
    People in the BVI do not even understand Sovereignty,and in today's time,you would expect all these Virgin Islanders bt DESCENT,who were not born in the BVI,but their parents were born in the BVI,so they are likewise BVI-Citizens,to educate their less fortunate brothers and sisters on British Colonization,under the British Empire.
    REPARATION FOR WHAT!?
    Go to Her Majesty the Queen,and call on Her Majesty to compensate or apologize for what you believe she should apologize for.
    How can a Governor appointed by Her Majesty,apologize to Her Majesty's Citizens?You people are taking the joke too far now.
    You are misleading the citizens into making themselves foolish for something they cannot change.
    WHAT ABOUT REPARATION for all the abuse Island woman and expatriate woman faced under local men in the 60's-70's,and for all the times Immigration arrested Island people and Expatriates,and deport them unlawfully,with a hearing and other abuses.
    We see the hate every day.But no call for reparation. HYPOCRITES!Leave the daaam Governor alone.Reparation my aaaasss.
  • privy council (31/10/2020, 17:43) Like (5) Dislike (2) Reply
    Did the Governor say something that is unconstitutional?Because the Governor is suppose to operate within the Constitution,so if the Governor speak, and say uk will not pay reparation,what is so wrong about what he say?how is that a insult?if the governor say francis drake channel should stay,what did he say wrong to apologize for. so bcuz the governor not from heh,and not barn heh,he cannot talk heh.well go get a governor from st.thormors who barn heh but live in st thormors to be governor.little people like us,as subjects of the queen,calling on the queen's rep to apololize?
    ah yu tu fresh in tola. doh apologhi for nottin.
  • tgfdgrft (31/10/2020, 18:00) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply

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    • Reply (01/11/2020, 11:16) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
      Mathews just need to shut up from keeping this insensitive and don't care Governor mess alive
  • Not Governor (31/10/2020, 18:54) Like (7) Dislike (7) Reply
    The Governor in trying to answer this question had overstepped his bounds and in doing so embarrassed himself by showing his true personal feelings. What he should have done was to direct you to the right person and or office,
  • HAHA (31/10/2020, 21:29) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
    How can the queen's subjects ask for an apology? Haha, these people still believe you guys are fools. This is 2020, no place for such bigotry. Try again!
  • tgfdgrft (31/10/2020, 23:14) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
  • ausar (01/11/2020, 00:33) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
    Really?

    So, it's never gonna happen, huh?

    Well, we didn't hear the Queen apologize to her black granddaughter-in-law, Meghan, so I guess it will never happen here!

    The problem is, we've never been the equal to those people. Imagine in this modern society, we're still referred to as "subjects"!

    No wonder Princess Meghan was given the "subjects" quarters, to renovate and "survive" in!

    I think it's more glaringly clear that as long as that Queen remains in power, those references towards us as a group, will be a constant!

    Could a younger King as William have a different understanding upon his ascent to the throne , remains to be seen!

    What I do know is that Jasper's leaving as governor, begins the ushering in of modern viewpoints-perhaps, even female- as a gesture of inclusion, sensitivity and modernization!

    • @ausar (01/11/2020, 07:51) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
      ALL people who are not the Queen but are UK citizens are her subjects. THAT is not a race thing, it is a class thing and is by definition what happens in a monarchy.

      Be angry about the historical racism, the exploitation, and promote (as you have in your last sentence) hope for a better future, but please don't confuse being black with being unequal. 99% of whites are not equal with the Queen. Again, this is a class issue, not a race issue.
    • @ausar (01/11/2020, 08:05) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
      Relax yourself, White people in England are referred to as her subjects it’s not a race thing.
  • Two rac**t (01/11/2020, 01:08) Like (7) Dislike (7) Reply
    I am very disappointed in the cop I think he must go fast also
  • WHY? (02/11/2020, 22:54) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Why are so many so ignorant? Gov condemned unreservedly everything that was to do with slavery, as he should. Gov stated that there is no current U.K. reparations policy (which wouldn’t be in his remit anyway). That is all.

    Then you have the real bandits, up to no good, trying to distract the populace by inferring he said or meant something else. Ask yourself why? We all know why the electorate needs to be distracted from analysis of what’s happening and what is also being withheld. Where are the billions (much more than any justifiable reparations figure) that have gone in the last 40+ years? Third world facilities...


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