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Accepting prisoners from VI was ‘foolishness’- St Lucia MP

- said the VI & St Lucia do not have a working relationship
According to St Lucia Parliamentarian Alva R. Baptiste, the idea of Saint Lucia accepting prisoners from the VI was based on impressing the international community, and that it was Prime Minister Allen M. Chastanet’s way of mulling at the feet of a foreign power. Photo: MBC News/Facebook
A Royal Air Force Airbus that touched down at Hewanorra International Airport (HIA) in St Lucia with several prisoners from the Virgin Islands on September 25, 2017. Photo: St Lucia Times
A Royal Air Force Airbus that touched down at Hewanorra International Airport (HIA) in St Lucia with several prisoners from the Virgin Islands on September 25, 2017. Photo: St Lucia Times
Some 21 prisoners from Her Majesty's Prison in Balsam Ghut, Tortola have been transferred to the Bordelais Correctional Facility (in photo), the only prison in Saint Lucia. Built in 2003, it has a capacity of 500 inmates. Photo: Internet Source
Some 21 prisoners from Her Majesty's Prison in Balsam Ghut, Tortola have been transferred to the Bordelais Correctional Facility (in photo), the only prison in Saint Lucia. Built in 2003, it has a capacity of 500 inmates. Photo: Internet Source
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- It was on September 28, 2017 that this news site accurately reported that 21 of the Territory’s most dangerous prisoners were being transferred to a prison in St Lucia, following damages to HM Prison in Balsam Ghut by Hurricane Irma on September 6, 2017.

Now comes word that a Member of Parliament in St Lucia has criticised the decision of the St Lucia Government to allow prisoners from the VI there.

According to Parliamentarian Alva R. Baptiste, speaking to MBC News in St Lucia recently, the prisoners should not have been a priority for St Lucia.

“I don’t think that should have been our priority…and I have been told that some of those prisoners are extremely rude, they are extremely disrespectful to the staff at the Bordelais Correctional Facility and I don’t think we should develop any tolerance for this type of foolishness.”

‘BVI is different’

Mr Baptiste said he has heard people comment that St Lucia had accepted prisoners from Grenada following Hurricane Ivan in 2004; however, the two situations cannot be compared.

The MP said St Lucia and Grenada share a common Eastern Caribbean Central Bank, cooperate on health-related matters and where security matters are concerned.

He even said there was nothing out of the ordinary about prisoners from St Lucia being housed in Grenada or St Lucians going to St Vincent or any other jurisdiction.

“Even going to the BVI as a St Lucian, unless you can show a certain amount of money coming into the BVI you are not going to be allowed entry, based on what many St Lucians have told me about going to into the BVI,” Mr Baptiste alleged.

He further said the idea of Saint Lucia accepting prisoners from the VI was based on impressing the international community, and that it was Prime Minister Allen M. Chastanet’s way of mulling at the feet of a foreign power.

Transferred prisoners identified

Meanwhile, the names of the 21 prisoners transferred to St Lucia from the VI have been published in the Gazette.

The prisoners have been identified as: Omarie Winter, Shakoy Lavacia, Aaron George, Kareem Durante, Orlando Bonnick, Yan Edwards, Kenyatta Boynes, Alcedo Tyson, Andrew Milton, Devin Maduro, Deshawn Stoutt, Matthew Daniel Hazel, Jessroy McKelly, Jevone Demming, Sherman Abdul Williams, Jerry Martin, Samuel Harris, Alberto Rosa De La Rosa, Lorne Parson, Dennis Dwayne Campbell, and Allen Baptiste.

According to the Gazette, the prisoners will be away “until such time as repair work to improve security at the prison has been completed, and the governor determines that the conditions in the prison are such that further escape and disturbance at the prison can be prevented, and the life and safety of other prisoners and the community at large can be assured.”

53 Responses to “Accepting prisoners from VI was ‘foolishness’- St Lucia MP”

  • Fine send them back. (18/10/2017, 07:23) Like (106) Dislike (12) Reply
    I hope nothing happens to St. Lucia where they need our help. Further more if that’s how you feel tell those living here come back to St. Lucia since we don’t have a working relationship.
    • @Fine (18/10/2017, 10:35) Like (25) Dislike (12) Reply
      You do realise that there are linesmen from LUCILEC currently in the BVI helping to restore power, right?
      • . (18/10/2017, 11:49) Like (12) Dislike (10) Reply
      • Well Sah (18/10/2017, 21:08) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
        So does this not represent that we DO have a working relationship given St.Lucian linesmen are here assisting us with the restoration of electricity.? This St. Lucian MP needs to do his homework before making such comments.
  • Hmm (18/10/2017, 07:24) Like (47) Dislike (2) Reply
    well just send their backside back where they came from. let this government fork the closed
  • island man (18/10/2017, 07:30) Like (9) Dislike (27) Reply
    I agree with him
  • me (18/10/2017, 07:42) Like (59) Dislike (2) Reply
    He is talking based on what he heard but no empirical evidence to support. I wonder how many St. lucians living in BVI? So you are telling me that anyone with $20.00 after travel expense come to another country without showing how he/she would be able to take carebof themselves? My only question is this "are they being housed for free"?

    I thought BVI was an associate member of the OECS. The BVI has always helped other caribbean countries in many ways. Wow!!!
  • Needs (18/10/2017, 07:49) Like (54) Dislike (1) Reply
    He needs to shut the H:ll up already.
    Who left him in charge. I am quite sure the BVI is footing the bill for the inmates to be housed in St. Lucia.
    • Please go away Sir. (18/10/2017, 16:11) Like (32) Dislike (0) Reply
      That’s what he’s in the opposition no foresight and certainly no compassion for his caribbean neighbours. My dear man do I know how many Caribbean nationals live in the BVI. Ask him to come and take a look in VG and see how many primonently st. Lucians live and work and very good jobs across the public and private sector. I can testify BVI has been good to me and my st. Lucian family. No wonder his government got voted out of office. Thanks you BVI for being a second home to me and my family.
    • facts (18/10/2017, 16:44) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      No they are not...families were told they have to maintain them.
      Government hasn't agreed to foot the bills for inmates.
      • People Read (20/10/2017, 07:43) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
        Governor sent them there not Government. Governor is head of security which include the Prison. He negotiated for them to go there and rightly so. Opposition MP got his minute in the spotlight and spoke on what friends told him and not facts. Rude Prisoners need Rude Lash. They are upset because no more Facebook and Dish Network and having their food served at 82 degrees and not 82.5 . Simply put they behave bad then take their pink cocoa butter hands they came with and put them to work by painting and cutting fields .
  • nonsense (18/10/2017, 08:38) Like (59) Dislike (0) Reply
    When you travel to any island or country, from the United States of America to China to Trinidad, you must show you have sufficient money to sustain yourself. So when Mr. Baptiste speak with such ignorance it's mind boggling to say the least. You can't show you have sufficient money it is grounds to be denied entry. Period.
  • apple pie (18/10/2017, 08:39) Like (7) Dislike (21) Reply
    The man speaking his mind
    • Andee (18/10/2017, 09:58) Like (32) Dislike (1) Reply
      @apple pie
      Not much going on upstairs, does he?
      No wonder he has no power. Did he think before opening his mouth? Utter nonsense!
    • Rat (18/10/2017, 10:16) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
      He doesn't have a mind
  • say what (18/10/2017, 08:44) Like (45) Dislike (0) Reply
    Life has a way of getting back at us. Where is the humanity. In the blink of an eye Hurricane Irma destroyed alot. No discrimination, yet this foolish St. Lucian official talking crap about we have no working relationship. Are you serious sir? You see what taking place in the region and the world and you encouraging deviciveness. Shame on you and shame on you St. Lucians who feel the need to paint a bad picture of our policies.
  • Send them Guyana (18/10/2017, 09:08) Like (24) Dislike (40) Reply
    First off tortola is a very harsh place for island eople.they believe they own the world.."I from here foolishness"'s funny only when the islands is devastated by hurricane then you hear mark vanterpool " o we are one and we going to rebuild as one" only in need and when they want people help they recognise islanders...those prisoners should be sent to the main prison to get their ass woop...the usual tolan mentality rude, disrespectful.
    • Please go (18/10/2017, 13:54) Like (30) Dislike (6) Reply
      Get your MS out my country. Ayo always here looking easy entry to the USA and US money. Ayo don’t care about tola or tola ppl.
      • Soooooooo True (18/10/2017, 16:26) Like (13) Dislike (6) Reply
        @Please go, I am with you 100%. You are so true. Tortola is the first stop for those people. They come here, they find a weak man, marry the man to get papers and clean the man out. When they get their papers they go to the States. Those people don't like us. They are just here to prey on the weak to get what they want.
      • Ha Ha (18/10/2017, 19:21) Like (10) Dislike (2) Reply
        They are more like a preying mantis. They come here to get what they can get and use people.
    • Andee (18/10/2017, 17:00) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
      @send them Guyana.
      The majority of BVIslanders don't act this way. Its the belongers that create this type of havoc. They mistreat their own country men & women. They feel as if they have arrived. We need to learn how to love each other and be our brother's keeper. Its time we become #CaribbeanStrong.
    • Imposter (18/10/2017, 22:31) Like (0) Dislike (4) Reply
      Mark Vanterpool is not from here.
  • Lia619 (18/10/2017, 09:22) Like (34) Dislike (4) Reply
    Liat 619 leave for vc bird ever other day. Tell your Lucians they can come home since we have no working relationship.
  • Empathy Brotherman (18/10/2017, 09:29) Like (29) Dislike (2) Reply
    Mr Baptiste really speaks like a man with no travel experience and no care for humanity, especially in such disastrous times. Does he even care that several of the prisoners are nationals of OECS Member states? Besides, BVI has had a very long and distinguished working relationship as an Associate Member with the OECS. Mr Baptiste needs to check his facts and get some empathy as a Parliamentarian.
  • RedStorm (18/10/2017, 09:29) Like (23) Dislike (0) Reply

    One little lesson for this official. Get the facts straight, before representing your country in such an ignorant way. This is a disaster and your country agree to facilitate this agreement. If you disagree with the government make an appointment and dialogue with them. The BVI have polices, regulation and restriction like the rest of the world. They do not operation on ignorant manner. Whether you have a working relation or not , its a disaster , the golden rule will apply.
  • Not this moron (18/10/2017, 09:48) Like (22) Dislike (0) Reply
    He is a political stooge for the opposition, believe me, I know him personally. This is all hot air
  • PLEASE STOP (18/10/2017, 10:05) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Sometime some of these remarks and insult can be other people writing these things. Trying to make the bvi look bad.let us stop this and work together as people.let us unite these hurricane is much bigger than all of us.
  • Xxx (18/10/2017, 10:27) Like (5) Dislike (23) Reply
    But this is how the bvi behavior towards others also
  • *Hmm (18/10/2017, 10:56) Like (22) Dislike (2) Reply
    So tell me something, the BVI & St Lucia don't have a working relationship yet your ppl find themselves here in the BVI living, working etc & it's all well & fine but to take in our prisoners on a temporary basis I might add that's a huge problem. What if we say its time for the Lucians to all go back SMDH. Some people does really amaze me
  • vi (18/10/2017, 10:57) Like (27) Dislike (1) Reply
    Mr. Opposition Member your comment about St Lucian showing that they have a certain amount of money before entry to the BVI is a Blatant lie. I had a St Lucian visit me Easter 2017. The only thing he had to show was his passport and say who he was staying with and how long he was staying. He didn't even had to show his return ticket. Stop Making BVI look bad in order to uplift yourself. You need to wonder why you are on the Opposition and not the Government side. You too wicked
    • True (19/10/2017, 00:36) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Believe me that's exactly why they were voted out. Always creating a stir. I won't be surprised if this story was made up by him. # anything to get back into power
  • Hostile (18/10/2017, 11:07) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
    Many people/countries often will take a nationalistic/hostile view as you can see here. I particular like this article because of the issue surrounding expats and local in the VI. It shows that this is not just a VI thing, other countries who feel threaten by outsiders take the same view and behavior as VIlanders.
  • . (18/10/2017, 11:54) Like (15) Dislike (3) Reply
    Let this be a warning to any who thinks of joining the OECS or of seeking "independence" from the UK. Just don't. You see the bitterness of these people against the BVI that has contributed so much to their economy through the remittances of it's nationals working in the BVI?

    Pure envy and spite.
  • sayingso (18/10/2017, 12:37) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply

    He is an @4$ and speak like one too.

  • be our brother's keeper (18/10/2017, 12:46) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    with such a remark one cannot and will not get any political mileage. At this time of need almost all the Caribbean islands are reaching out to each other in some way or the other.Your leader like so many others even Harris of SKN is chipping in monetary wise and housing many students from various affected islands. Have a heart and retract you words because the next time might be your turn.Have a heart like our Maker as He would have done even more.
  • RETARD (18/10/2017, 12:50) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    This St. Lucian politician has no appreciation whatsoever of how the world works. And based on his reasoning ability, I would place his IQ somewhere around 70 or 75.
  • VIlander (18/10/2017, 13:31) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
    Our money helped them develop truth be told...but he has a right to his views's a foolish dog barks at a passing bird - Robert Nesta Marley
  • Shut up Mr Baptiste. (18/10/2017, 16:18) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    Baptiste speaks for himself and doesn’t share the view of the st. Lucia ppl. He and his party has been voted out So just another wanna be making noise. Do you know most st. Lucians living in the BVI to be ungrateful individuals? Not at all most of them don’t get themselves into any problems and are always willing to help others. Mr. Baptiste please go away you are in the opposition and you don’t representative st. Lucia or it’s citizens. You are not recognised here.
  • St. lucian (18/10/2017, 16:33) Like (30) Dislike (1) Reply
    This gentleman doesn't speak for every St. Luian. As a St.Lucian he definitely doen't not speck or represent me.

    As of many St.Luicans, I have called the BVI home of over 30 years. This island has been nothing but good to me. It sadden me to read this article.

    Mr. Bptisite comments are not only selfish, but irresponsible. This is not the time for any political gender, but a time to come together as one caribbean and help each other in times of need. It's now our time to get back to an island that has giving us so much.

    As a matter of fact I think St. Lucia should be doing more. How about opening our homes and schools to students.

    I totally agree with all the comments that have been posted. I would to apologize for Mr .Alva R. Baptiste comment.
    These politicians just don't get it... They just love to hear themselves talk..
  • Real (18/10/2017, 17:07) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    when they finish there time where do they go ... u put people tru that an they r your naybors
  • Jamdown (18/10/2017, 23:15) Like (17) Dislike (0) Reply
    It is a fact that we are a divided set of Caribbean people and there are many issues that need to be resolved but this is not the time and place to be spewing out negativity. The BVI has suffered tremendously from Irma and I would recommend that if you don't have anything good to say at this time, shut your mouth.
    The BVI is not perfect but it has allowed many us to earn a dollar or two to take care of our families. I will forever be a grateful Jamaican expat and will continue to pray that we can all be more loving and caring towards each other.
  • SLP stay out plz (19/10/2017, 00:50) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Since they've lost elections, these SLP parliamentarians have opposed every good thing that the current government is doing. Stop lying to make it seems like it's the views of all Lucians. Plz remain on opposition, selfish Slps!
  • Jinglebel (19/10/2017, 07:28) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    He just a fool
  • 15 Minutes (19/10/2017, 07:42) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Your 15 minutes of trying to gain fame is up Mr. Wannabe Inspector Gadget. You don't own St. Lucia. Go start planting Okra and call it a day. As a matter of fact, go visit the inmates from Tortola and tell them face to face what you said. A MUD HOG KNOWS WHAT PART OF THE MUD TO DIVE IN.
  • Miffed (19/10/2017, 08:52) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    The BVI has long been a haven of rest for those who cannot make anything of themselves in their homelands, and especially other Caribbean countries

    I was disappointed to hear the comments of this clueless individual. Does he not know that we are to help each other? As someone indicated, many of the prisoners are nationals of other Caribbean countries.

    I was also disappointed to hear the SVG officials who where here recently, say that their offer of education was exclusively for children born there, or whose parents are SVG nationals. Not even a token five spaces were reserved for BVI children, yet still we allow their people to enjoy a decent way of life in the BVI.

    Ungrateful people!!!

    As we always say, BVIslanders have no where to run to when the flit hits the fan.

    But guess what? The BVI WILL rise again. I hope the current officials, aspiring politicians and those in authority who have the best interest of our country at heart are listening and reading. Noticed other Caribbean nations were quick to 'evacuate' their people? We BVIslanders have no choice but to stay and face the music.

    It is about time that BVIslanders have representation in their own country. Long overdue.
  • hah (19/10/2017, 09:31) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    I hate when people say Tolians don’t like “island people” That is one of the dumbest statements one can make. How can you take the actions or words of a few people and make that the official motto of the entire island. There are more “island people” in the BVI than Tortolians. We interact everyday. We’re neighbours, friends, lovers and even family.
  • open wide (19/10/2017, 09:48) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    then man standing up for his country you give him wrong? One we fools in the BVI with a moo moo government that can't defend we no where
  • LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE (19/10/2017, 11:02) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
    I recall someone taking a letter size paper and putting a little black dot on it then holding it up and asking his audience what do you see.The majority of the people responded " a black dot". He then said, "so much white and all you see is a black dot."
    most of you all are commenting on the one man with an irresponsible comment(black dot) rather than giving praise to the Government in power and people of St.Lucia, who open their arms ( so much white) in this have made the negative a "star" while the "real star"...with the exception of a few, gets nothing
    stop wasting time on the "black dot" big up the good and encourage them to go people to forget that one comment by drowning it with so much positive that all people remember was our Caribbean brothers and sisters help us when were were in need and we are proud to be doing this and together we will be stronger than much much white....there will always be a black dot.....but so much much white
    • Perspective (19/10/2017, 17:13) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
      Your analogy of white and black (good and evil?) is unfortunate. But good comment nonetheless.
  • Good Deeds (22/10/2017, 19:42) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    People stop y'all need to change y'all state of mind, o e person talk shit then everyone acting uncivilized. My thing is your rude and bad treat them rude n bad prison is not a hotel. Just make them change their mind of going back to any close, peace out

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