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Work permit matter 'cannot be one size fits all' - Skelton-Cline

- said Gov't methodology to lock-out expats can be questioned, but not its motives
ZBVI radio moderator, Claude O. Skelton-Cline said the topic of immigration in the Virgin Islands remains a complicated one, especially in the case of a recent government decision to lockout work permit and exemption holders as a result of COVID-19 pandemic. Photo: VINO/File
The Government of the Virgin Islands (VI) as of August 2, 2020, and immediate effect, moved to block entry to the territory, holders of work permits and work exemptions. Photo: VINO/File
The Government of the Virgin Islands (VI) as of August 2, 2020, and immediate effect, moved to block entry to the territory, holders of work permits and work exemptions. Photo: VINO/File
Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline has related that some expats have confided in him that they feel trapped in the VI after living for years, afraid to leave even in the case of the death of a loved one, out of fear that they cannot return. Photo: Internet Source
Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline has related that some expats have confided in him that they feel trapped in the VI after living for years, afraid to leave even in the case of the death of a loved one, out of fear that they cannot return. Photo: Internet Source
BAUGHERS BAY, Tortola, VI - Commentator and Consultant, Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline has said the topic of immigration in the Virgin Islands remains a complicated one, especially in the case of a recent government decision to lockout work permit and exemption holders as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.

"It is complicated, this is a difficult issue. Immigration overall on the planet... its a difficult issue... for the government, its complicated for us as private citizens," he said on the Tuesday, August 11, 2020, episode of his 'Honestly Speaking' show on ZBVI 780 AM.

Skelton-Cline, while defending the motives of the Fahie administration, said the matter of the work permit, therefore, is not and cannot be a one size fits all mandate.

Expat vs Local conversation is wrong 

Quoting Mahatma K. Gandhi, who said the enemy is fear and not hate, Mr Skelton-Cline said the undertone of this controversial conversation attempts to pit locals against expats, which he said is the wrong conversation and premise. 

"While you can question the government's methodology in the initial implementation of its policy, I don't think you can question their motives."

He noted that over the years, the VI Government has demonstrated a commitment to neighbourliness and to making things right for expats who have lived in the territory, built the VI, even started families and married into the VI.

While admitting that particulars need to be worked out in this particular scenario, he said the unnecessary fighting between expats and locals, therefore, comes from a place of fear.

Categorising Permit holders 

Mr Skelton-Cline further said that while both Virgin Islanders and expats have legitimate fear from different social issues in the Territory, solutions need to be had from both perspectives, starting with categorising those who hold work permits. 

"There are persons right now, who have been locked out of the country on work permits, their families, their spouses, their children are still here but they are not able to get in, so what must happen?"

He said in that scenario, those situations become a moral issue as it relates to family and separation, which needs to be acknowledged and recognised.

Even wealthier expats he said, would fall into another category, for those who have invested in the Territory and own property and land. 

Skelton-Clines's contention is that the Government cannot lock-out broad categories of permit owners and workers using one generalised 'paintbrush'.

He said other categories of foreigners would include business owners and even specialised medical doctors who provide much-needed service to locals in the Territory.

'Expats feel trapped' - Skelton-Cline 

Further,  the man of the cloth related that some expats have confided in him that they feel trapped in the VI after living for years, afraid to leave even in the case of the death of a loved one, out of fear that they cannot return.

"This matter of the work permit is a complicated one, but it's not too complicated for us as a people to have a meaningful conversation on it and to have our government make the various adjustments to ensure... that we be careful how we handle strangers."

"We have developed a country that has made expats necessary, and we should not shy away from that, nor should we be afraid of that... that is one of the things that makes the country unique," he said.

21 Responses to “Work permit matter 'cannot be one size fits all' - Skelton-Cline”

  • Truth Sayer (14/08/2020, 07:31) Like (30) Dislike (5) Reply
    Mr. Skelton-Cline, we tend to say that we are a Christian community when it is necessary so where is it in this conversation. There is a sense of racism in the Government's ruling on the ban of persons into the BVI who hold work permit and exemption. How can a person who has lived here for years and contributed to the economy be denied entry if they went out of the country for legitimate reasons? How can a person who is the spouse of a belonger be denied re-entry? Why should these persons have to pay exorbitant fees for quarantine when belongers who do not live here and pay nothing into the economy could come in and pay nothing? IT IS WRONG AND SHAMEFUL!
    • @Truth Sayer (14/08/2020, 11:00) Like (12) Dislike (4) Reply
      I am a BVIslander, and last time I checked when I asked a very close friend of mines about my planned visit to St. Vincent for her wedding, I was made aware that they have a quarantine facility for their citizens abroad who wish to return home and it only has about 20-21 rooms... all persons who does not belong have to pay for their quarantine stay at a resort! So my question is what’s the big issue if you’re not deemed a BVIslander, Belonger for all other individuals to pay for their quarantine stay? That question was posed and it was rejected by the same people who on here talking smack! Work permit & Exemption holder’s all around the world has been locked out of certain countries and they have to deal with their situation accordingly! So how is this RACISM???? This precedent has been set across the Caribbean... but only in the BVI any and every body feel they are entitled to have a say! Those of you who reside here away from your country don’t PAY ANY TAXES in your country but YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS THE DOOR OPEN FOR YOU TO RETURN HOME irrespective of what you have contributed to your country! It’s like you guys want us to abandon our own to please and appease you people! THATS WRONG DISGUSTING, & DARN SHAMEFUL OF YOU TO THINK THAT WAY..... GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR LOw DOWN DIRTY THINKING!
  • good looking out (14/08/2020, 07:39) Like (17) Dislike (3) Reply
    Its awesome that government looking out for our people but a lot of us don't want the jobs that the expats doing. They feel that some jobs are too low class.
  • B.V.I Market (14/08/2020, 08:04) Like (18) Dislike (1) Reply
    I have a Co worker who's been living in the B.V.I for 18 years, married to a local and have kids, and is Exempted through their spouse. Recently this person lost a parent. As the man of the cloth said people feel trapped because if they leave they can't return. Why should this be a choice? Why can't they go pay their last respects to their loved one and return?
    I do hope that the Honorable Premier and other Ministers are reading these blogs to see the out cry of our brothers and sisters.
    • PayPal (14/08/2020, 12:08) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      This is a hard one, why should someone in this situation have to choose? No one should have to go through something like this. I pray I hope this individual find some kind of peace and solace. I feel for them.
  • Kim (14/08/2020, 08:07) Like (6) Dislike (4) Reply

    I am not sayinh yje economy or people needs to return to the bvi but hold out take your time be still andknow that thee is a God sometimes i wonder if you is areal preacher or you just takling because you know the word you need to go in a corner and pray to God to help remove this plauge from our shores and stop calling down to some extent what the Premier is doing to keep the place and YOU safe shorten your eyes sometimes and you might see better thanlooking downthe road for wha may be your own advantage please be on a low open mouth level you know what was done for you so be mindful how you roll also tell Marlonto shut up what is his plan tell him go and get the sewrage moner what was for the area which can help pay for the qurantine ofthose who you want to coe back Pico marlon and the rest of NDP need to go sit down they are most of the problems we have here one could not run his ministry the then [remier was just there on a fence the one for works only God knows and the skelton one was the only one who has some sort of sense cline you need to cool out before you help the goverment to keep the virus out you look like you want it come get your cloth andwalk trough the territory praying be an Eligha do you look at the news coming out of America check your self

    • my lord (14/08/2020, 10:33) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
      i dislike because you are killing my eyes with this tripe that you wrote. Jesus. Spell check Grammar Thesaurus something anything please......!
  • annudda2cents (14/08/2020, 08:20) Like (5) Dislike (4) Reply
    this is my suggestion. This must be spearheaded by Labour and Immigration Department.

    1) Have work permit and work permit exemption holders apply for permitted re entry just like you did via an online portal with belongers, vi passport holders, and certificate of residency holders. Give them a limited time to register. Say two weeks.

    2) Create a centralized list with all these names and vet them out according to certain criteria which I will name in point 3.

    3) Go through each name, and make sure that up until the time they were in the territory, they were up to date with social security, NHI, payroll tax (not the employer's part...i am talking about the employee's part). make sure they were up to date with rent and utilities, and are not in arrears.

    4) Go through each name, and make sure that as per immigration laws, they were not outside of the territory for more than 3 months as of March 2020 (except for non Covid-related medical reasons).

    5) Make sure that they have a job to come back to.

    6) If they do not qualify as per the above, then let the authorities do what they have to do.

    I may have missed an item or two, but that's thinking off the bat. But as Mr. Skelton-Cline says, one size cannot fit all.
  • Two good honorable men (14/08/2020, 08:23) Like (10) Dislike (7) Reply
    Dr Pickering and hon. Marlon Penn said it best. They have addressed this issue with rational, common sense, solutions and compassion.........I have nothing to add... Those are two good honorable men... If the VIP not listening to them they ain't prepare to listen to anyone..... Simple!
  • Lucifer (14/08/2020, 08:27) Like (8) Dislike (1) Reply
    I find myself in agreement Mr. Skelton-Cline and he is actually talking some sense when not bashing the governor. The work permit system should be driven by the needs of the territory's economy. If there are jobs where the skills can be found in locals then maybe it should be more difficult to get permits for those roles. Likewise where the jobs requires people with the necessary skills and qualifications to be bought in, employers should be allowed to use the work permit system with more freedom. The Cuban doctors is a good example. There are not enough qualified doctors and medical professionals so they allow overseas people to fill those roles. If the government forwards local candidates for a role (such as with the ice cream shop) the employer should have to provide evidenced reasons as to why each candidate rejected is not suitable. Unfortunately both locals and expats suffer for the misbehavior of those that came before them which leads to the arguments we on these comments
  • Stupidity (14/08/2020, 08:34) Like (8) Dislike (6) Reply
    Is locking down the country going to drive Covid away. Is locking out workers going to drive Covid Away..? Is this their plans to fight Covid. Lock down and lock out.. Covid isn't going away anytime soon. We need a real forward moving, forward thinking progress plan.... We can't stay lock down forever...So open the place and put your plans to the test. Give you time to fix, adjust, replace before November December. When traveling is heavy.. Don't wait putting your hope in a vaccine....
  • bee (14/08/2020, 09:53) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Don’t you read the news take a look at USVI who never close they said they made the much need money, now they are going on lock, places all over the world who opened and now on lock down or reporting very high numbers of the virus, Is money more to you than your life. Most of our tourist comes from the USA “Have you looked at the news lately?
    We all know that we have to open sometime but now is not the time, the us is full of the virus so is other Caribbean islands no tourist comes to the BVI in August or September, Its hurricane season in case you forgot, If the country don’t open in October then we can start to make some noise right now you are blowing wind
  • Nikki (14/08/2020, 10:53) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
    { honestly think that we need to shut up and stop talking on high notes of praise I can see what Mr Fahie is doing when he let the people in test or no test he is going to get the blsme we are so personal selfish just wait and see how things turnout God knows it may go away but we keep looking at money you all remember sodom and gromorrah yhe bible days are revisiting us BVI landers or expats keep a low profile and let God lead the way but I am going to be honest expats what the Premier is doingf is right because you donot want anyone to come back and the virus gets spead you see how life is with this process is going on in other caribbean islands so why no one is talkig about that but you want to kiill the BVi Turksand Caisos open and witin two days they had to close down so people just wait hold out things will be diffrent so stop the stupid brickering consider other people in other countries who would like to get home and their own country is not letting them in so be still things will work out the comments should be necessary comments to help andfor help and I am glad that the premier is sailing BVI cruise ship you all do not know how the premier meet the business of this country so just be more aware because if things come out sa to what happen over the past years you all will be in a panic
  • Rubber Duck (14/08/2020, 14:06) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    First time I have agreed with him. There are some grave injustices going on that need to be sorted.
    • Fair (14/08/2020, 15:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I still feel it's only fair that everyone gets a chance to return then the govt decides what should be done. I say this because I think whether or not one lost their job they will still have business to come back to care of.banking,loans, apt , susu etc. I'm not saying that the govt has to pay for their quarantine , although I think it's a bit steep.
    • Gustav Harding (15/08/2020, 04:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @Rubber Dick....How much time is the first time. You probably agreed other times but wont say so.
  • island man (14/08/2020, 14:46) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    It was the vip decision to do that since Fraser time this is not a surprise
  • H (14/08/2020, 18:01) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    @@ truth sayer u are a darm blasted lier u just make that story up please come clean
    • @H (14/08/2020, 23:39) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Funny how you all don’t want the true story about your own countries operations to come to the forefront! But don’t worry we will purposely get the linked information especially for persons like you who come on here and down grade the VIslanders in their own country! And back these sayings with FACTS!

      SORRY TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS H... or PROBABLY NOT!
  • Immigration (14/08/2020, 21:18) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    The BVI is the most RACIST country in the world in 2020.
    • rice (15/08/2020, 04:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @immigration ... you are the mist ignorant oerson blogging. Dam jack Donkey. You see what goes on in Amerika daily? A place where most of you want to be. Come caca pues.


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