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Why pick on little VI for offshore financial leaks? - 3D Show caller

- shrugs off scrutiny, says bigger culprits out there who are not pursued
One caller on the 3D Show felt that the Virgin Islands was being singled out unfairly with recent leaks made public by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ). Photo: VINO
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – Recent articles in the press about offshore financial leaks made possible through the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) have raised considerable concern around the Virgin Islands and within the United Kingdom (UK).

At least one caller on the 3D Show has attempted to downplay these concerns however, stating that other countries have done much worse and are perhaps not facing as much scrutiny as they need to.

The caller made his contention during the April 5, 2013 programme aired on a local radio station.

“Mr Wheatley,” the caller addressed the host, “I don’t know why they picking on small Tortola.”

According to the caller, there are ‘only’ 300,000-odd offshore companies registered within the Territory and he instead diverted attention to Europe’s Liechtenstein, The Isle of Man, Gibraltar and other similar places described as tax havens in the press.

“We can’t even compare [with those places],” he said, “yes, they’re trying to locate the $32 trillion dollars… but I don’t know why they’re picking on us.” The caller seemed to allude to reports that indicated that tax havens around the world hid as much as $32 trillion dollars for the rich.

He further stated that the Virgin Islands had already signed the Tax Information Exchange Agreement (TIEA) approximately four years ago.

The Virgin Islands signed one such agreement in 2008 with the UK but has signed several more with other countries since.

“The ten years that they brag about that they got things to prove, we know how it is,” the caller continued.

He reasoned that offshore accounts came to the Virgin Islands after circumstances changed in Panama with former leader, Manuel Noriega, who he described as an outlaw.

“Yes, they’ve said we’re still dealing with Japanese, Chinese… all kind of other European countries, we have them here registered,” the caller added before stating that there was nothing to hide.

“It’s something the whole world knows, but why pick on us?” he asked.

He noted that there were places that had millions of registered companies but authorities refused to even ‘jump on them’.

“Yes, we know first it was outlaws and drug lords hiding their money… but it had to get cleaned up, it had to get straightened up,” he added, “they put the grey paper, the white paper… what colour paper they’re going to look for next?”

He suggested the Territory was in the ‘clear’ because it knew there was no room for dealing with corruption but was still being picked on with talks about ten years of records indicating financial corruption.

“That’s ten years backward since the white list and grey list came up,” he said before abruptly taking his leave.

Notably, calls have also been made in the UK press for Prime Minister David Cameron to take action regarding the recent leaks in the press.

22 Responses to “Why pick on little VI for offshore financial leaks? - 3D Show caller”

  • ... (08/04/2013, 08:07) Like (13) Dislike (13) Reply
    Because we are black and should not enjoy the standards of living we are having!!!! Bam
    • ausar (08/04/2013, 08:48) Like (11) Dislike (8) Reply
      "...", I have to agree with you.

      As long as the beneficiaries are black, the industry should be destroyed!

      • ! (08/04/2013, 10:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        .......with the poor taxpayers footing the bill for their big countries stupidity.
    • Ridiculous Comment (08/04/2013, 09:06) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
      You belittle blacks around the world with a comment like that. The concept is pretty clear. Yes there may be other juristrictions far larger than the BVI. Thats a given. There are two reasons though why people 'stash' their money in places like BVI. One is the obvious tax break that exists but the second, which is just as important, is SECRECY. By publishing this list, the intergrity of the BVI as a SECRET offshore haven has been compromised. If clients personal details cannot be keep secret here, these people are simply going to stash their money somewhere else where it can be. The subsequent knock on effects of this should be obvious to a person even as ingorant as you.
      • Understanding Financial Services (08/04/2013, 10:59) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
        At Ridiculous comment. The BVI is not a place where the rich stashes money. Our banking systems are not sophisticated enough for that. Robert M ensured that this was the case, and no one really wants to sit around for six months in order to get a bank account opened. The monies are not here. Actually the money is onshore. It is because the money flows through the books of the BVI company that the onshore jurisdication (e.g. US and UK) cannot tax it. The BVI offers vehicles, companies, through which business activities can be structured. To comply with the law, registered agents must require all these entities to provide them with basic information to satisfy due diligence/KYC requirements. This information is kept in the records of the registered agent. There is no requirement to file it publicly at the Registry of Corproate Affairs. It is not secret to registered agent and the FSC can obtain it if they desire to do so and can provide information to other regulatory authorities in other countries and the courts. It is just secret to the public as the registered agent has a contract with its client to maintain confidentiality and not to make it public. That's all.

        The BVI has complied with every international standard on these matters. IMF, IOSCO, you name it. We are always on the white list each time the judgments are published. Further, the FSC shut down one trust company who was not complying with the laws and are proactive in guarding this Territory. No matter who it is, a person who intends to commit fraud will always find a way to circumvent the law. Until Jesus comes, we can never eliminate crime from the world and fraudsters will live amongst us. So please do not panic. It is a sensationalised article trying to make offshore countries like the BVI look bad because in these economic times, it would be best for that money to stay at home.

        The funny thing is that most of these people do not structure their wealth through BVI entities alone, there are usually entities within the entire structure that are US or UK or other onshore entities. But when the entire thing goes bust, only the offshore countries are singled out. No mention of the other entities in the structure that were incorporated or formed onshore. Big country against small country politics, but we will survive!!!
        • BVI COMPANY (08/04/2013, 13:30) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          You are correct. I'm in the field and 99% of the bank accounts, trading, custody and otherwise are being opened in the US, Uk/EUR, Switzerland etc. These places are so familiar with BVI entities that they have the BVI requirements separate from others, meaning, they are comfortable dealing with BVI entities so I don't see what the hoopla is about. We make money setting up and administering these entities, that's it. The money flows through the banks in these onshore jurisdictions but instead of follow the real problem, they want to pick on the little guy, at least so they THINK. We will NOT lay down to these nimwads who have no clue about how the industry works.
      • penalty (08/04/2013, 11:03) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
        to ridculous comment....we dont stash money here!!! majority of wat we do is register companies where the BVI Company registry get $550 odd dollars each year. the regsitered agenst of course make a little money as well as they are the ones doing all the work!!!
    • TAYTRUE (12/04/2013, 17:59) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      I agree with you. They are among us and don't like us. They don't believe black people in the BVI should have what they worked hard for. Fire bun them with firecrackers.
  • duh (08/04/2013, 08:33) Like (16) Dislike (9) Reply
    Because we here hiding money for the mega rich while most of the world is in financial collapse, most of the ordinary people in USA and Europe are under heavy austerity measures, their welfare systems is being pulled apart because there is not enough tax revenue to finance them, Greece is falling apart because people avoided taxes and hid their money in places like BVI, and the poor man around the world is getting poorer all the time.
    Meanwhile, we happy to help the rich hide their dollars from their home jurisdiction with all kind of clever laws designed to make it appear legal. Yes, it's 'legal' - because we design the laws to make it legal. Duh.
    So the reason they picking on us is because we display a lack of morals, standards or principles that a lot of people around the world find very distasteful at times like this. We are mercenaries and traditionally, mercenaries are despised because they'll do anything for money.
    • BVI COMPANY (08/04/2013, 14:33) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply

      Are you kidding me???? If hiding money is the problem the focus should be on the banks sweet heart, not BVI for simply providing corporate vehicles through which international business, investments, wealth management, family planning etc. can be facilitated. Do your homework before coming on here trying to sound all intelligent. Where is the data that shows these countries would be better off if BVI, Cayman etc. were out of the picture? There's none. That's as stupid as thinking that if all expats were to leave BVI it will mean more employment for BVIslanders. NO, it will mean economic suicide and the place will go under. Corporations having wealth overseas isn't the reason that those nations are teathering on the edge. If they were to kill BVI and Cayman jurisdictions for example, they would be surprised how many jobs would be lost and businesses closed onshore. That in itself tells me this is just populace and grandstanding for those who have no clue. They bark and talk about China day in, day out, who single-handedly took over all manufacturing and other jobs from these nations which is one of the reasons they're going under. All talk talk talk, nothing of substance. We will remain.

  • tola boy (08/04/2013, 09:45) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Call it what you want,hiding money,distasteful,lack of morals it is what it is. Tortola is not the first and well not be the last. You guys just listen to the new and believe even thing you hear. The day Tortola give in to the USA and others and give them what they want,and open up clients personal details. Then the financial sector will collapse in the BVI, because all the financial company's will leave and do you think these country's give a dam what happen to us after that!! People please do your research, and see what happen to other places when they give in to these demans. BVI government it is not broken and we don't need to fix it!!!!
  • Are u serious (08/04/2013, 09:47) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    Clearly you need to be quiet as you have nooooooo idea wht we do. I hope you do not work in the industry.
  • . (08/04/2013, 09:54) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    Wrong is wrong no matter the colour
    • rattie (08/04/2013, 10:34) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I seriously do not have a problem with that! Peace!
    • -------------- (08/04/2013, 11:04) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      During the elctions the NDP, ws preacher of doom and gloom, you were so wrong, as the VIp was jammi but what do they say now?
  • BRAD BOYNES (08/04/2013, 10:14) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Speak truth to Justice regardless of who it's for or against. Smallness has nothing to do with the rule of law in a forward thinking and living society, this is April 2013, get real.
  • Financial Services 101 (08/04/2013, 11:02) Like (3) Dislike (10) Reply
    Tax evasion is illegal. Tax avoidance is not illegal. The BVI provides an avenue for persons not to pay tax through companies. Both locally and internationally. That is not tax evasion. It is not a crime to avoid paying taxes if you can do so in a legal way. The US and UK has to continue what it is doing to try to get this money back home. We have to continue what we are doing to keep the money here. It is an eternal game and the better legislation will prevail. BVI has been better and we will continue to find innovative ways to do so!
  • bbc (08/04/2013, 11:33) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    BVI too little much too late,
  • Mikey (08/04/2013, 12:39) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    This is why we need to educate our people about this very important pillar of our economy. Clearly, the only ones who know about our financial services industry and what it means to the BVI economy is those who work closely with it and understand how countries like the BVI benefit from its financial services industry, and the importance of so called tax havens to the global economy as a whole.

  • In the know... (08/04/2013, 13:40) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    If the USA were really interested in cracking down on tax dodging etc. they would focus on their capital gains and insurance schemes right under their noses, where monies are tax exempt and people use these structures to lump lots of money in and get back tax free profits. It's not rocket science and BVI has no need to panic, we just need to defend ourselves and let them know we won't back down. This is not a new game people. In the US when the housing market crashed, they blamed poor black people for not being able to afford the gimmick loans. Nevermind that it was the white wallstreet guys that made it possible for little or nothing to be traded on the street as well as rating agencies trusted by investors who played along with the scheme. It was easier to blame the poor old colored folks for messing things up. They said there was a recession but yet the bigger corporations have been getting record profits since then. How do the two add up? Now here we go again, they know who the real players are but blame those wicked brown people down in the islands. The notion that if BVI, Cayman and others didn't exist that somehow the US and UK would have more money in their economy is mind boggling to say the least. BVI has been in this business for over 30yrs and it's not what it was 30yrs ago. We have evolved and will continue to do so, so who vex dead!
  • dead dog (08/04/2013, 15:38) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    The big powers are out to make sure we eat rocks
  • Neverdid (12/04/2013, 18:03) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    We didn't eat rocks then and we are not going to eat rocks again. They want us like modern-day slaves and we always sucking up under them. We need to embrace our own.


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