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‘We will resist you taking over’ VI- Bishop Cline reiterates to UK

- Said full or partial UK take-over of VI very likely, judging from tone of CoI
Influential clergyman and Virgin Islander Bishop John I. Cline has expressed that the Commission of Inquiry (CoI) is leading towards direct rule over the Virgin Islands or its finances but will not succeed without a strong fight from the people of this territory, a movement he is ready and capable of promoting. Photo: Facebook/File
The United Kingdom-sponsored Commission of Inquiry (CoI), according to Bishop John I. Cline, appears prejudiced and set on validating some preconceived judgement. Photo: YouTube/File
The United Kingdom-sponsored Commission of Inquiry (CoI), according to Bishop John I. Cline, appears prejudiced and set on validating some preconceived judgement. Photo: YouTube/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- Influential clergyman and Virgin Islander Bishop John I. Cline has expressed that the Commission of Inquiry (CoI) is leading towards direct rule over the Virgin Islands or its finances but will not succeed without a strong fight from the people of this territory, a movement he is ready and capable of promoting.

Mr Cline was at the time a guest on JTV’s The Big Story last night September 21, 2021, with host Cathy O. Richards when he was asked for his take on the CoI based on what has transpired so far.

Prejudicial CoI

The outspoken preacher said that after watching some of the inquires it is obvious that some of it are prejudiced “in terms of some of the counsels, and maybe the whole commission, came in with some preconceived judgements and what they want to do is verify or solidify or validate their preconceived judgement.”

Bishop Cline continued: “If you are doing an inquiry to find the facts then find the facts and let the facts speak for themselves. It’s not saying that you cannot ask questions, but when those questions are very leading and suggestive and if you are not a person who can think on your feet and say I don’t know, I don’t agree, then you can get trapped.”

He also said he doesn’t think the commission “is squeaky clean in terms of their motives.”

Can any good come out of CoI?

Mr Cline; however, noted that he is of the opinion some good will come out of the CoL.

“I think that a lot of good will come out of it," adding that he heard the former legislator Myron V. Walwyn saying on Monday, September 20, 2021, that he has learnt so much about governance “and some of the things we were not doing since, since this CoI, and I heard some of the other Ministers saying the same.

“So they are some good that will come out to strengthen governance, to put some procedures and practices in place that would guard against corruption, not saying that there was, but it would safeguard and strengthen our governance, especially when we are talking about greater autonomy or independence.”

‘A leopard does not change its spots’

Mr Cline said that what is coming out of the CoI has put the territory in a very bad place, “And we have to determine how we are going to deal with the results.

According to Cline, there are four likely results.

“A leopard does not change its spots we know how the UK behaved in the past.”

Mr Cline referenced the Turks and Caicos Islands where the UK suspended the constitution and took over the country. “That’s a likely issue.”

“Anguilla, after the Commission of Inquiry, they took over the Ministry of Finance. They started to run the financial arm of the country, likely result.

“Third likely result, we’ll have a greatly assisted government structure. In other words, we are going to come alongside you, to ensure that you fix what needs to be fixed.

“We are going to bring in some people, put them alongside you, we are going to supervise the transition from what we see as the weakness in your governance structure and we are going to come alongside you and make sure your people are trained, you are trained and everyone knows that we should be on this same page.”

The other likely result, in Mr Cline’s view, is the UK saying to this present government, “We have seen what you have done, we believe it did not lend itself to good governance, but we do not believe that it arises to the point to remove you from office or declare that you are not fit for governance. So here is the timeframe in which you need to do xyz. And if we don’t see you getting it done by xzy we are going to take over.”

‘I will get people to fight with me’

In the final analysis, the Bishop says is of the view that the UK, based on what is likely to be in the report, will throw on the Virgin Islands one of two first observations, the TCI scenario or the Anguilla one.

“I think from what I have seen, they have enough, whether or not they go there that is what we have to make clear to our governor, to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, that the extremes, at least the first extreme is not something that you would not meet resistance about. We will.

“We will resist you taking over our territory and that resistance will be strong.”

Asked if the people of the territory are in that fighting mode, Mr Cline responded, “I could fight and I will get people to fight with me. I could start a fight.”

47 Responses to “‘We will resist you taking over’ VI- Bishop Cline reiterates to UK”

  • Go Siddung (22/09/2021, 15:07) Like (63) Dislike (52) Reply
    Pastor Cline you on your own with this. I do not agree with the UK taking over, but that is what need to happen to get things in order here. The UK will make politicians understand or know the definition of first cousin, conflict of interest, just to name a few. We have been running a loose train and its time for us to be steered. If we can not police ourselves then someone will. This is the words right out of your premier mouth.
    • Stand up - National pride (22/09/2021, 15:40) Like (55) Dislike (43) Reply
      He is not on his own. Most true Virgin Islanders will fight. Those who do not understand from whence we came can speak like you. We fought for freedom. We will get it right but not at the expense of being directly ruled. Fight we will.
      • ... (22/09/2021, 20:54) Like (5) Dislike (13) Reply
        Amen. I’m ready for a sit in.

        Our ancestors rebeled against slavery why should we drop the baton when true freedom is within reach?????
        • W*F (23/09/2021, 16:21) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          Our ancestors didn’t rebel against slavery. That’s simply not true.
    • jackass (22/09/2021, 23:29) Like (6) Dislike (9) Reply

      You are a Uncle Tom Ja**@#$

  • Comedy. (22/09/2021, 15:09) Like (64) Dislike (12) Reply
    I sometimes wonder if Pastor Clyne aint in the wrong profession. He sounds like he will make a good comedian..Every time he opens his mouth I cant stop laughing...Today he is for A, Tomorrow he against A.. Tomorrow he is for B, the next day he is against B...Lol.. Keep speaking Pastor Clyne laughter is the best medicine. I need it...By the way. What can you do to stop a Britain takw over?
    • Really? (22/09/2021, 15:42) Like (14) Dislike (7) Reply
      Sometimes people are for cause and not for political sides. That might be why it seems funny to you. It’s the problem with our country. Politics colours everything so your opinion must agree with a side. We must get past this noise around our minds as a people.
    • Guest (22/09/2021, 17:25) Like (21) Dislike (0) Reply
      You never know, he may scare them away by telling them the island is full of 5G……..
  • just wrong (22/09/2021, 15:17) Like (20) Dislike (17) Reply
    There are those that welcome the COI, and hope it leads toward UK taking over. Bishop Cline, do you really want to fight the UK? They will win.
  • just wrong (22/09/2021, 15:17) Like (26) Dislike (6) Reply
    There are those that welcome the COI, and hope it leads toward UK taking over. Bishop Cline, do you really want to fight the UK? They will win.
  • Observer (22/09/2021, 15:36) Like (20) Dislike (9) Reply
    I thought this was a man of the cloth...but he may very well be a wolf in sheep clothing.

    First and foremost, the BVI is the British. They have allowed the BVI to administer it affairs for some time but can retake control when they see fit.

    Secondly, how and whom does he thinks will resist? The cronies,
    so-called entitled one and major beneficiaries may be supportive but the mass majority of the populace is in full support of the COI and a British interim takeover.
  • We sure will fight for the VI (22/09/2021, 15:37) Like (30) Dislike (5) Reply
    We welcome the COI but I hope it changes the electorate as we sit down here and judge everyone when we elect those people. Direct rule does not mean the UK does not trust the politicians. It also means they don't trust you to elect leaders. Get a grip. We will fight for our country as we should. We welcome help but as a partnership an dnot a dictatorship.
  • hmmm (22/09/2021, 15:37) Like (26) Dislike (1) Reply
    How will you resist? lay on the runway?

    You should have been in the ears of governments previous and current that they need to run the show with clean hands. Testimony after testimony we see the well being dug. Yes UK have their own problems, but we cannot continue with this live electric wire situation going rampant. Did you listen to the Hon Sheep yesterday. My head aint go no other spot to scratch. We are out of order and yes it will look bad, but we need to stop, line up and start over with a clean slate, and all for the better. Like it or not, its coming.
  • @ BISHOP (22/09/2021, 15:53) Like (18) Dislike (0) Reply
    • @@Bishop (23/09/2021, 11:45) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Tell them like it is. Where are those voices when BVI residents rights are being voilated. Ayo want to fight UK but ayo cant fight your own government who is slaughtering its own people. Discriminating because you dont take a experimental drug, fireing staff etc. Stand up for the right cause, fix your home first before you go out.
  • o (22/09/2021, 16:01) Like (16) Dislike (5) Reply
    He really thinks the COI will not cover the deeds of the past govt. Sir every major project done in the VI has serious over run and we are likely to hear all about them in due course. As for finding people to march, well you're in for the shock of your life. I for one will in no ways align myself in the public street against good and responsible governance in these BVI.
  • Lord, what a thing. In the B.V.I where there are many false Christians.... (22/09/2021, 16:12) Like (22) Dislike (1) Reply
    Some call themselves Pastors, others claimed that they are Prophets, while others say that they are Apostles, others say that They are religious Doctors, others claimed that they are Reverend, others say that they are Evangelist, others claimed that they are Bible Teachers, others say that God anointed them to become super rich by all means necessary and unnecessary, others claimed that all the above suit them
    The Bible say in one passage of scripture that the love of money is the root all evil, false Pastor CSC says that if the government tax the the strip tease dancers that perform in the night club, where women spread their legs widely to give men a full view of the sex parts, that will be good for our economy. False Pastor Melvin Turnbull agree with false Pastor Claud Skelton Cline on this topic.
    Among the many that claim that they are Christians, there are genuine one, but the majority that claim that they are they, false Pastor Melvin Turnbull, false Pastor Claude Skelton Cline, false Pastor, John Cline, and others not mention here are in the same group.
    One of the biggest problem that is hurting us is our political leaders lust for money, rather than managing our finances rightly for the benefit of all the people of country, B.V.I. the present cabinet is mostly interested in re-election for the continuation of it personal agendas, mostly.
    Lord, what a thing in the B.V.I where there are many false (same as fake) Christians claiming to be true ones.
    • :( (23/09/2021, 15:47) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      smh that is all I can do; it is a sad state.
      Godly principles are out of the door, anything is anything in the name of freedom in Christ. (which should be living a godly life without shame, no matter what others say) "not joining in like a lizard." Moral value are no more, the young are not channel in right directions from those who God has placed in position to guide. However; the time will come when he shall appear and all will have to answer for themselves. The power cant be in you unless He has given you time. What are you doing with the time He has given you. I do hope they can give an answer to The Hope that has been place into them. I am truly chocked and hurt by this as a believer. Thus the reason He has said trust no man, man hearts are DESPERATLY WICKED who can know it, not even your own. smh!!!!!!!
  • HEY PASTOR (22/09/2021, 16:18) Like (17) Dislike (2) Reply
    Good luck with that. You are on your own with this.
  • STOP THE CRAZINESS (22/09/2021, 16:39) Like (10) Dislike (3) Reply
    What is the plan when you consider resisting? The UK is not afraid of a march.
  • PT9 (22/09/2021, 16:45) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
    Cline What are you going to fight the UK with? the BVI will like to know.
    • josiah'sbay (22/09/2021, 19:57) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      @PT9: Tell me that you weren't actually thinking about a physical engagement. All we have is the UN self-determination mandate. The question is how far can it take us without having to declare our independence.
  • josiah'sbay (22/09/2021, 16:46) Like (6) Dislike (9) Reply
    Some of us are always ready to put back on the chains and hand over the whip to the UK. Not enough of us are talking correcting our short coming putting checks and balance in place for proper self governance. Is it true that we are simply not capable of self governance or is fraud, corruption and selfishness our greater goal. Since European domination is there a place or people under their conquest where those they conquered enjoy any semblance of equity or have they just subsisted off of the crumbs? The model wont change.
  • stfu (22/09/2021, 17:11) Like (18) Dislike (0) Reply
    Cline go sit down, the COI will clear the debris and allow for a smoother quicker move to full independence by making sure the rule is the same for everyone and not different for those in positions of power within the government and thier family members and businesses
  • Help (22/09/2021, 17:18) Like (17) Dislike (0) Reply

    the majority of residents are not from here and they will not lift a finger because they are here for financial purposes and have no social interest in this place

    back in the days they were more tola people so they champion the cause and stood up against the adversaries

    play the tape; there was a big march in 2018 and today what is the outcome

    This is a british overseas territory so i can not back a ja***** in a horse race !!!!!

    • Really? (23/09/2021, 16:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      A big March in 2018? That wasn’t a March! That was a stroll with a bit of attitude. You’re a joke.
  • Resist (22/09/2021, 17:31) Like (17) Dislike (3) Reply
    Resist all you like, it happening and people like you have no credibility
  • which kingdom (22/09/2021, 18:41) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    Jesus Christ said, if my kingdom were of this world then my servants would fight. But no, my kingdom of is not of this world. So called Bishop do you belong to the Kingdom of ELOHIM or the Kingdom of antichrist, son of satan?
  • Hotter (22/09/2021, 18:50) Like (2) Dislike (8) Reply
    The Bvi does not belong to the U.K brother u john Cline, these lands belong to the native, Kalinago people
  • fromafar (22/09/2021, 19:54) Like (26) Dislike (13) Reply
    I said my path already, If you are in the Virgin Islands and you support a Uk take over leave now. we want back our country, why does the UK want us now think about it. we will fight for our Virgin Islands not joining us ? You can leave
    • @fromafar (22/09/2021, 23:12) Like (9) Dislike (6) Reply
      I agree with everything you said with the exception why do UK want us now. UK do not want us UK want to take the BVI from us and many who are supporting it are the people who have left their country in frustration because of problems they were having in their country. They didnot think they were entitled in their country but they think they are entitled in the BVI. I support having a closer tie to the USA through the USVi. BVI turned to the USVI when UK gave us up as a bird sanctuary. We traveled there for employment and to sell our good produce and life stock. Our forefathers and fathers helped each other to build houses to give this generation a foundation now every tot mom and sam and johnny come lately think that it is too good for us and want to take ot away. I am convince this COI is not about good Governance it is about these UK guys flexing their muscles on us and showing us that they ate in charge and have their plan written already to take over so that they can enjoy the wealth for themselves. Now some also want to write wills claiming it is for free be mindfull of hidden agendas.
      • fromafar (23/09/2021, 07:21) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
        You are correct, and you know something else listen to the message do not kill the messenger, this is bigger than Pastor Cline think about it.
  • be careful (22/09/2021, 20:27) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
    this is the same person who convince some of you not to take the vaccine but went behind your back and took his 2 shots

    a man's word should be his bond
  • It is finished. (22/09/2021, 20:30) Like (14) Dislike (0) Reply
    The V.I.P government has self distrucked
    • ... (22/09/2021, 21:16) Like (3) Dislike (8) Reply
      Actually the newly elected & strong willed government has been sabotaged

      by the demonic imperialist desires of a people who can not take responsibility for the fact they displaced humans, enslaved humans, raped humans, profited enormously and now want to keep the descendants of those displaced people of color down

      Especially now that their on a path to regaining their freedom autonomy & pride in full.

      The people of the first world are stupendously clueless as to why many countries are dirt poor.

      It’s a rigged system they print their money while pushing other currencies down in the gutter.

      Economic assassination. Que the dehumanizing poverty causing sanctions.

      The Virgin Islands has big bucks while using the dollar.

      They can’t devalue US and are forced to take extreme devilish measures to stop our progress from enslaved laborers to a nearly autonomous & fully non dependent

      Prestigious Financial Hub

    • Lol dwl (23/09/2021, 04:30) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Url put them in a coffin some year ago bring them.back now they broke up like humpty tumpty lol
  • Virgin Islander to the Bone (22/09/2021, 21:39) Like (7) Dislike (8) Reply
    Virgin Islanders will be stupid to sit down and just allow the British to come and take over. I know we have lots of house niggas here but true Virgin Islanders will fight. They are those with a vested interested in seeing the British take over and we know who they are.
    • hmm! (23/09/2021, 15:51) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Just the way they are stupidly sitting back and allowing the dirt and disgrace that is being done to overtake their floors, hmm!
  • Exposed (22/09/2021, 23:35) Like (6) Dislike (17) Reply
    Some of these people have never lived away, have not gone past the Sunday morning Well and definitely need a history lesson. From Africa, to America, to the Indians, to our neighboring island Haiti, and the list goes on…how can they be sooo dam ignorant and supporting UK takeover. It’s nauseating!!!
  • Lb (22/09/2021, 23:41) Like (6) Dislike (4) Reply
    Why he didn't resist against this government taking over and putting us in this spot?
  • Watchdog (23/09/2021, 06:41) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    We don't need a UK takeover. We just need them (through the governor) to oversea national security, crime and corruption.

    Transfer the management of the civil service from the governor to the government. Remove the governor from the cabinet. Those functions are just a waste of his time.

    Leave the police and prisons with him. Add the department of public prosecutions and an anti-corruption task force. If he does his job right and we see government officials in prison, we will not have any further problems with crime and corruption in the government.
    • 2007 Constitution (23/09/2021, 07:52) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      We negotiated this in 2007 but some thought it was too much for us so they insisted that it be given back. The results they have been fighting. Pal is you all fault.
      However, we could never give our country over to the British with out a fight. UK admit it we had giving you this in 2007 so have it - let it be very clear who is responsible and not keep the confusion. If only Ministers Vote in Cabinet then let them deal with Cabinet - the Governor then signs or rejects what they produce
  • musa (23/09/2021, 09:59) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    We all need help
  • Hmmmm (23/09/2021, 15:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    You know all these comments are just bashing Cline... He is a true Virgin Islander. He is the only minister that speaks up on behalf of the BVI the rest are hiding. COI could go either way, all he is saying is if it comes down to UK taking over, he hopes people will not lap their tails between them legs and let it happen. Jeeezeee. Stop condeming the man for speaking his mind. That's all some of you all good for. I hate it here.
  • Maverick (23/09/2021, 17:35) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Bwoy cdung, be Christlike and not a pappyshow. Like Satan, you have an I problem. I will get people to fight with me, I could fight and I could start a fight.
  • woow (25/09/2021, 20:25) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Sir you should be resisting that spirit of mockery and try stopping it form taken over and the nonsense your cousin mr sk .cline is talking

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