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'We don't need appeasing' from the UK - Skelton-Cline to Gov Jaspert

- criticises lack of concrete answer regarding VI's plea for COVID-19 financing from UK
ZBVI 780am radio moderator Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline has once again issued sticking criticisms to UK appointed Governor of the Virgin Islands (VI), His Excellence Augustus J. U. Jaspert, over the UK's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in relation to the territory. Photo: VINO/File/GIS
Skelton-Cline has in the past has petitioned the Governor to ask the UK for a definitive answer on their decision over a request from Premier and Minister of Finance, Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) for help to access funds to match what the VI was making available to its unemployed population as a result of COVID-19. Photo: VINO/File
Skelton-Cline has in the past has petitioned the Governor to ask the UK for a definitive answer on their decision over a request from Premier and Minister of Finance, Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) for help to access funds to match what the VI was making available to its unemployed population as a result of COVID-19. Photo: VINO/File
The Government of the Virgin Islands announced on April 15, 2020 it would be seeking to negotiate with the Government of the United Kingdom for certain terms of the Protocols for Effective Financial Management (PFEFM) to be relaxed or amended to allow Government to freely seek immediate relief funding in light of the negative economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. Photo: Internet Source
The Government of the Virgin Islands announced on April 15, 2020 it would be seeking to negotiate with the Government of the United Kingdom for certain terms of the Protocols for Effective Financial Management (PFEFM) to be relaxed or amended to allow Government to freely seek immediate relief funding in light of the negative economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. Photo: Internet Source
BAUGHERS BAY, Tortola, VI- Outspoken radio show moderator Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline has once again issued sticking criticisms to United Kingdom (UK) appointed Governor of the Virgin Islands (VI), His Excellency Augustus J. U. Jaspert, over the UK's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in relation to the Territory.

Skelton-Cline has in the past petitioned the Governor to ask the UK for a definitive answer on their decision over a request from Premier and Minister of Finance, Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) for a grant to match what the VI was making available to its unemployed population as a result of COVID-19.

Protocols frustrating recovery efforts - Skelton-Cline  

While the UK has committed to helping the VI, Governor Jaspert said the VI has healthy financial reserves and that the Territory can handle its own affairs.

It was also announced that a UK navy ship had visited the Territory and used the opportunity to scope approaches to the islands as part of preparations for the hurricane season, affirming UK's commitment to the Commonwealth and British Overseas Territories in the Caribbean.

According to Skelton-Cline, "We don't need no flyovers, what we need is the relaxation or the waving of some of those components in the instruments, the Protocols for Effective Financial Management that is interrupting, that is frustrating our capacity to recover and to develop this country," he said on the April 20, 2020, edition of his show, Honestly Speaking.

'It's like having a girlfriend [and] she keeps telling you all I want to do is for us to spend twenty minutes on the couch and talk, you keep sending her flowers, she don't want no flowers, she wants communication, she wants quality time," he said. 

According to the man of the cloth, the VI is not looking for the UK and the Governor to seem relevant by 'being seen' and just doing something mundane for the Territory.

Petition to UK on Protocols

Speaking during a live COVID-19 update to the Territory on April 15, 2020, Premier and Minister of Finance, Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) had said Cabinet agreed to instruct the Financial Secretary to lead technical discussions with the UK Government’s financial technical team in petitioning the Secretary of State to relieve the Government of the Virgin Islands of its obligations under Section 20 of the Protocols for Effective Financial Management and the review and amendment of Sections 25, 27 and 28.

This, Hon Fahie had said, is to, “enable the BVI Government to secure the funding necessary to respond to catastrophic events such as the COVID-19 pandemic, in light of 1. The real impacts and economic forecast outlook for the BVI due to the catastrophic COVID-19 pandemic, 2. The unavailability of grant funding from the UK Government and 3. The impediment the conditions of the Protocols for Effective Financial Management pose to the BVI Government being able to finance immediate relief and economic stimulation programmes on its own.”

'VI needs substantive decision' - Skelton-Cline 

"We don't need appeasing, we need substantive decisions to be had regarding how we are going to move forward, given the economic shifting and the impact that this pandemic, that the hurricanes, have had on us as a country and as a people," Mr Skelton-Cline said. 

He called for concrete answers regarding the VI's request for financial assistance and promised to keep pounding the drums until a substantive answer is given.

"We need money, we need to be free from the hindrances...given these acts of God, natural disasters, pandemic... so that our country can develop. We cannot be at the mercy of the UK when they themselves are fighting for their lives and yet will want to dictate how we move."

53 Responses to “'We don't need appeasing' from the UK - Skelton-Cline to Gov Jaspert”

  • Oliver Cromwell (23/04/2020, 13:08) Like (52) Dislike (4) Reply
    Well, surely the answer is simple, go independent which will remove all the restrictions you mention, then borrow the money from wherever you wish.
    No one is forcing the BVI to remain British.
    • Reality check (23/04/2020, 14:55) Like (23) Dislike (2) Reply
      Mr Cline is so irrelevant, and these islands are an asset to the UK. Independence is not in their best interest nor our best interest.
    • Hmm (23/04/2020, 16:15) Like (38) Dislike (4) Reply
      They won't. They too like the privilege the get from British status.. it allows them to look down on the other caribbean islands and the luxury of easier access to the USA... as much as they hate being dictated too they hate the idea of being considered poor and unfortunate like how most of the other Caribbean islands are classed. They dont want to be termed as down island people too.
    • josiah'sbay (23/04/2020, 19:36) Like (1) Dislike (3) Reply
      Oliver Cromwell, surly you're not suggesting that the UK has no responsibility to us until we make the independence move. We are in a custodial relationship with the UK and they have their parental responsibilities the only problem is it's not in writing. We should have writing out our request for what we believe that they should be responsible for in the course of our normal relationship and during any emergency situation. I don't understand why many of us feel that we have to accept all UK made directive and decision for ourselves. Until we sever our relationship with the UK we have a right to petition the Unite Nation under the self determination goal on our behalf. Do you think that some entity that have enslave you for hundreds of year and oppress you for many others can simply say if you don't like it, then go. It's not that simple! We need to make humanitarian requests to the U.N. that results in legal decisions.
      • Oliver Cromwell (23/04/2020, 21:56) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        Josiah’s Bay, Unfortunately, it will become apparent that self determination is very much a twin edged sword, it affords the territory full authority to plot it’s own course in life, but, in doing so, relieves the UK much of it’s responsibility for the outcome. You can’t have it both ways.
      • Quiet Warrior (24/04/2020, 07:23) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
        &Josiah Bay, the UK is the Mother country and the VI the custodial child as you say in the analogy, Well, the UK’s responsibility to the VI does not have to be in writing; it is an OT of the UK. A parent responsibility for the care, feeding, housing, and the clothing of a child does not have to be in writing. It is a moral obligation. Even animals do not abandon their responsibility.
        • Really? (24/04/2020, 11:20) Like (0) Dislike (3) Reply
          Well then what do we label the UK? The history of our people have shown just this behavior. In fact, would a parent enslave their children, pay off their slave masters and leave them to starve to death. Then require them to pay for the land they dwell on??? Not even an animal would do this??? Thank God we are Jesus’s and not the UK’s! Shameful!!
    • I agree (24/04/2020, 03:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Fully!
  • long look me come from (23/04/2020, 13:09) Like (7) Dislike (41) Reply
    I with you Skelton Cline the governor is suspect
  • well sa (23/04/2020, 13:22) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Let the games begin
  • Why ? (23/04/2020, 14:22) Like (69) Dislike (2) Reply
    Why does the media even entertain this man. Never has and never will say anything nice about a whitey.
    • Border crossing (23/04/2020, 14:57) Like (4) Dislike (11) Reply
      @ why?
      I am personally challenging you or anyone of you to take your black @$& to the state or country where Whitey is from and see how white folks deal with human beings with dark skins: try take your head from out mr white rectum: you do not have to defend the governor, do you hear him complaining....
    • a Whitey (23/04/2020, 16:07) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
      He shook my hand and smiled when we were introduced to each other...
      • @ a whitey (23/04/2020, 21:54) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        you mean during your fast-track when whitey shook your hand. asking for a friend
    • Why (23/04/2020, 17:26) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Sooooo true, we comment on this as the media gives him a voice...VINOW?
  • Quiet Rebel (23/04/2020, 14:39) Like (6) Dislike (7) Reply
    When are we going to get to No. Well, here is a news flash. It is an open security that the Brits are renowned for their quiet diplomacy.Governor Jaspert has quietly told the VI loud and clear about its request to help unemployed residents resulting from Covid-19 that a)the BVI has a healthy Consolidated Fund and b)a robust Social Security Trust Fund. The Social Security suggestion was disingenuous, for the Guv knows what the Act says. It has been several weeks now and how much has the UK provided? Diddly swat. It seems like the UK does not give a rat’s a..s about the VI and its residents. If it were Falkland Islands or Gibraltar, or St. Helena, Ascension.... or even Bermuda or the crown dependencies they would have probably gotten help already. It is shameful that in some locales racism and politics have been injected in this pandemic.
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    • bystander (23/04/2020, 17:29) Like (9) Dislike (3) Reply
      I think the BVI Government has control of its domestic legislation, so it could amend the social security act to allow the fund to be used for unemployment benefit if it wanted to. It doesn’t seem to want to do that. Instead it would like some free and unsupervised money from U.K. Lucky UK to have this opportunity!!
      • Quiet Rebel (23/04/2020, 20:22) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
        @Bystander, above I noted that Gov Jaspert was disingenuous in regards to the Social Security Act and you too are either deliberate, uninformed or playing politics. True, the HOA can urgently change the Social Security Act to provide a service that it was designed and intended to provide. Currently, the Act was designed to provide old age pension/grant, disability pension/grant, survivor pension/grant, funeral grant, maternity grant....etc. It was not intended to provide unemployment insurance. To change the Act to do that will require employers and employees to increase their contributions. An actuary or actuarial firm will need to hired to calculate employee and employer contribution. The unemployment insurance portion would have to be discrete from the functions of the social security, ie, unemployment insurance will have to be self-supporting. If residents want it, they must be willing to pay for it. Who should the VI/British ask for help, ie, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Portugal, China, US, Russia, Holland....etc?
        • bystander (24/04/2020, 08:09) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
          What about legislation to permit emergency financial support to the unemployed for say, 3 - 6 months, to get through this period of pandemic; given all the revenue the Territory has generated in the last 30 years it is startling that money is so short to deal with this emergency. Emergency financial measures are being taken in many other countries, and it seems the SS fund is the only option available to the Territory, which is supposed to be self governing.
          • Quiet Rebel (24/04/2020, 09:46) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
            @bystander, this is a different discussion than amending Social Security to provide the proper unemployment help to displace workers. I support your proposal of legislation to provide 3-6 months unemployment help, though it may appear socialist and the VI system is capitalist. There is lot pain ahead for many residents, especially those depending on the tourism industry. In a few days, the lockdown may be lifted but then what? Is it the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning. The territory may forced into making a false choice of either the economy or health and safety. Some idiots in the US and elsewhere are saying there are more important things than life. Dog whistle—-the economy. The economy will rebound but a precious life lost is gone forever. A sensible balance must be strike.
    • @Quiet Rebel (23/04/2020, 19:50) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
      The Gov in that same speech specifically said that the UK had expressed that they would first need to see what stimulus aid the VI had planned ..This fact seems to be consistently omitted when criticizing the UK for lack of aid. It has been several weeks and I have not heard of a stimulus package from our Gov. The assumption then is that as yet, our Gov has not complied with the request and more than likely,does not intend to for whatever ulterior motive of ill intent that only they know.?.....
  • Come on (23/04/2020, 15:32) Like (11) Dislike (3) Reply
    Mr Cline give some one else a chance now man
    • @@@ come on (23/04/2020, 16:35) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
      should we wait on you; feel free to go on radio and speak your mind; you can link up with Mr Cline and move forward...
  • Patriotic (23/04/2020, 15:48) Like (12) Dislike (2) Reply
    correct. why the media is giving this guy so much attention .He entitle to his opinion like everyone else .its not facts . most of the time he speculating and have his conspiracy theory. Politics ,religion and science are different entities.
  • alfred (23/04/2020, 16:26) Like (12) Dislike (1) Reply
    The one thing this culture has mastered is blame.
    • Tell the truth @ fred (23/04/2020, 16:45) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
      No blame is facts it was whites who did slavery and whites who killed the Jews
      • Kinko (24/04/2020, 16:47) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        Actually it was our own black people who enslaved the slaves inland then sold them to the whites on the coast. The whites didn't need to do anything other than transport them to the Americas. Simple economics. They just relied on the tribal heiracrchies in West Africa. There is no blamesless race. We are all guilty.
  • Independence? (23/04/2020, 16:58) Like (18) Dislike (5) Reply
    The day that we become independent, will be the beginning of rampant corruption, embezzlement and the likes. BVI People are greedy, very greedy.
    • Diaspora (23/04/2020, 20:58) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
      True, under UN Charter, the VI is entitled to self determination, including independence, but IMO the VI is not ready for political independence or economic independence. In fact, it should attain economic independence before even thinking about political independence. It is small 59 square mile, 36 island, islets, rocks...etc, resource-poor, disaster-prone, fragile service-based economy locale with a population of 32,000 population. Currently, it is supposed to be self-governing but in reality, it is partially self-governing. It shares governing with the crown. The crown is responsible for a)external affairs, defence, internal security, RVIPF, civil service, judiciary, Jail admin (shares admin local government) with local government being responsible for everything else. The government needs to pursue more autonomy, ie, civil service, RVIPF, judiciary among other things. Most of the responsibilities under the crown is funded by local taxpayers. A constitutional review is needed urgently to reduce the crown’s rep reserve powers. Let’s stop the internal facade, mirage. Let’s keep it real; don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining.
      • josiah'sbay (23/04/2020, 23:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        Diaspora, did it ever occur to you that they maintain power over institutions that control you?
        • Diaspora (24/04/2020, 12:29) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          @Josiah’s Bay, you are on point but this is what the VI constitutional delegation negotiated and agreed to. So what does the crown control RVIPF, Civil Service, Internal Security, Judiciary, and Jail (joint ops/admin control with local government).
      • josiah'sbay (23/04/2020, 23:17) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
        From reading these comment I can see that we in the VI are not ready for independent and critical thought.



    • @ Independence (24/04/2020, 11:02) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
      you know what going on and not reaping up old things. so much went unchecked during a former administration: although the protocols for effective financial management were in place the records will reflect disregard, substantial corruption, probably some indirect embezzlement and all of these irregularities happens under the current scrutiny of the Great Britain, can you image the fiscal conduct as an independent country: the police them need to investigate Political misconduct and not just investigate drug trafficking, curfew and petty crime against the average joe blow: independence is a viable option but laws must be established for politicians who uses their political office or use our tax money for their personal gain
    • @Independence (24/04/2020, 11:36) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      And so are you who came to live among us. In fact, it is because of that greed that you are here and not building up where you are from. What we are is blessed, not greedy. So people like you who don't like us should not be sharing in this blessing. Go visit Trump nah. He will take care of all of you mean people.
  • respect (23/04/2020, 17:10) Like (20) Dislike (2) Reply
    I understand being outspoken... But have a little more respect for the Governor. He stood up during the hurricane....when everyone ran headless.
    • RealPol (23/04/2020, 20:35) Like (6) Dislike (9) Reply
      @respect, If Guv Jaspert is so thin skinned that he cannot stand criticism, he should depart for the UK soonest.
    • @ respect (24/04/2020, 01:10) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
      That was under the ndp dead olando vip in good people
    • Big Deal (24/04/2020, 13:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      a state of emergency was declared after the hurricanes and under a state of emergency the Governor calls the shots that is why the NDP held a house of assembly meeting at save the seed so the elected government could take over and remove the state of emergency...you acting like the governor did BVI a favor the man was going what is required of him as the governor of this overseas territory..let’s hear you give some credit to the electricity Corporation..the Governor is fully capable of defending himself via facebook, radio or tv
  • Intel. Analysis (23/04/2020, 17:34) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    Suppose you are on a ship and it is announced that it is about to sink. The Captain suggested that a flaw caused by the Manufacturers was a contributory factor in the sinking. Would you stay on board and argue with the Captain or blame the said Manufacturers or get into a lifeboat, get to safety first, then deal with the matter after you get to safety? While the issues\issue raised by Mr. Cline Skelton may be relevant, based on our current situation they could certainly wait until the right time, Our survival is the midst of CODVID 19 the most important issue at this time. By the way Mr. Cline your "girlfriend" analogy is quite interested coming from a man of the 'cloth
  • legal team (23/04/2020, 20:27) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    There is nothing much to say on this matter,because again and again,mr cline is not accepting the reality of sovereignty that the bvi is british overseas territory,with a governor appointed by her majesty the queen,as the head of state.
    But I would like every citizen of the bvi to accept that as of 2020,the bvi remained dependent territory,and the governor.

    Chapter 3 of the BVI Constitution,teaches us about the Governor. The supreme lae of the BVI states:-

    ["There shall be a governor of the virgin islands who shall be appointed by Her Majesty by commission under HER sign manual and signet and shall hold office during Her Majesty's pleasure"]

    The explanatory notes written in the said 2007 constitution order states:-

    ["The new constitution provides for a governor as Her Majesty's representatives in the islands and a premier and ministers who form a cabinet together with the attorney general.It provides for an elected house of assembly which TOGETHER with Her Majesty forms the legislature"]
    According to the bvi constitution. the governor is not a representative of the UK government or uk parliament.
    The governor is not a member of parliament in the UK government.

    In my view,the governor is just trying his best to ASK for help through the diplomatic channels..

    What are your aim,objective and intention,mr cline?

    Please explain. I am confused.
  • Challenger (23/04/2020, 21:43) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply

    sack the fat cats at the RDA. we dont need them. . huve salaries...what are they doing during the crisis when we need help " recovering and developing". Clyne..go.challenge them and ask them.if they are still taking big wages sitting at home.......suddenly they are forgotten about. get Mcmaster i to your interview and ask him the same questions you asked the former boss about his wages.

  • Chuck (23/04/2020, 23:21) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Who wudda bring back de masks?
  • E. Leonard (23/04/2020, 23:28) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    The Novel Coronavirus (Covid-19) is the greatest health crisis of our lifetime. It has caused an upheaval of and disrupted the economies of UK Overseas Territories (OT) and has acted and continue to provide health challenges for the OTs. The OTs will need help, lots of help to resuscitate, sustain and stimulate their economies and fight Covid-19.

    After WWII, the US in 1948 rolled out the European Recovery Plan (Marshall Plan, name after Secretary of State George C. Marshall) to aid Western Europe recovery. The US appropriated approx $15B with the UK receiving a large percentage of the aid. The Marshall Plan benefitted both the US and the countries receiving the aid; it boosted the gross national product of many countries. The 2017 hurricane season devastated many Caribbean OTs, including the VI, Anguilla........etc. Specifically, monster hurricanes Irma and Maria in September 2017 roared ashore and caused significant damage in the VI to the tune of approx $3.2B.

    Given the extent of the damages in the OTs, the UK should have a rolled out a Marshall Plan style plan to aid the OTs. It didn’t. Now it needs to roll out a Marshall Plan to aid the OTs in fighting Covid-19. The VI and other OTs need help starting yesterday or day before and will continue to need help. Covid-19 has sidelined tourism, 1/2 of the economic twin pillars, throwing thousand of people out of work; these unemployed need help now. Moreover, Marshall style plan effort will help both the UK and OTs as the Marshall Plan benefitted both the US, Western Europe and other countries.
    • @E.Leonard (24/04/2020, 10:03) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      @E. Leonard, though you are on point, the Marshall Plan started in 1948 after the official end of WWII. The globe is in the midst of the Novel Coronavirus (Covid-19) war. Should not the UK wait until after the war ends to roll out your so called Marshall Plan, if any? The US was not devastated by WW II. However, the UK is in the midst of the Covid-19 battle and will have its own challenges at home during and after the war ends and charity begins at home. We should not get our hopes up thinking that the UK will roll out a needed Marshall Plan for OTs. Don’t hold your breath, for you may expire. Stay safe!
    • Oliver Cromwell (24/04/2020, 10:15) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      E. Leonard, you mean use British tax payer’s money to fund a territory where they have no rights, cannot live without a license, work without a permit, or, vote. You clearly have not thought this through.
      • @Oliver Cromwell (24/04/2020, 12:19) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        @Oliver Cromwell, so you up in arms and tying your underwear in knots on the mere thought that UK taxpayers may help in the revival of the VI economy. Just in case you forget the UK received approx 26% of the $17B European Recovery Project (Marshal Plan) funding to bail out after the war. This funding was US taxpayers’ money. Are you trying to be as controversial as your name Oliver Cromwell, one of the most controversial leaders in England.
        • Oliver Cromwell (24/04/2020, 15:36) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
          E.Leonard, your exaggeration and extremism won’t erase the fact that the BVI brought all it’s financial problems on itself, all the other OT’s don’t have a problem. The BVI needs to address it’s own failings and face reality, whilst it still can.
          • @Oliver Cromwell (24/04/2020, 19:33) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
            @Oliver Cromwell, see that my classmate E. Leonard is getting under your skin. Well, my classmate generally does not debate anyone who lack the courage to come out of the shadow and reveal his/her name. That said didn’t the UK receive approx 26% of the approx $17, 000, 000,000 (approx $5B) Marshall Plan funding that came from US taxpayers? Was the UK a parasite? No. The UK was in need and an allied bail it out. The VI and OTs are in need. Out
  • time to march (24/04/2020, 01:11) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
    The governor and police boss both must go
    • @ time to march (24/04/2020, 12:52) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      The governor and the police boss are uk citizens in a uk owned territory of totola.
      from what I reading is the queen send the governor here..where you want them to go.virgin gorda or tortola,because you cannot depot the men of the queen.
  • Seduction (24/04/2020, 02:20) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    May I ask ? What experience does a the Pastor have sitting on a couch trying to seduce young ladies and sending them flowers ? Was this just an unfortunate analogy you make. or an expression of political frustration.
  • lol (25/04/2020, 06:57) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    The Governor and Premier need to come clean and explain the assistance the UK has already given, is giving, and will give, and how difficult it would be without their help so folks can really understand the issue. Mummy UK wont sit by and watch her child the VI collapse. Stop chatting crap


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