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VI delegation in UK held talks with one of the largest insurance groups in the world

- Deputy Premier said roundtable talks with Howden Group & others in private sector were ‘excellent’
Deputy Premier and Minister for Financial Services, Labour and Trade Hon Lorna G. Smith, OBE (AL) reported at a press conference on September 16, 2024, that the VI delegation recently in the United Kingdom (UK) had an excellent roundtable with key members of the blue capital private sector, which included senior representatives of the Howden Group, one of the largest insurers in the world. Photo: GIS/Howden Group Holdings
According to the Howden Group website, it has offices in 50 countries and a network of partners in more than 60 locations. Howden Group also said it has over 18,000 employees and $38bn in premiums. Photo: Howden Group Holdings
According to the Howden Group website, it has offices in 50 countries and a network of partners in more than 60 locations. Howden Group also said it has over 18,000 employees and $38bn in premiums. Photo: Howden Group Holdings
Damages by Hurricane Irma in 2017. According to Hon Lorna G. Smith, OBE (AL), the Virgin Islands is experiencing the cost of adapting to climate change, especially in the high cost of insurance premiums. Photo: VINO
Damages by Hurricane Irma in 2017. According to Hon Lorna G. Smith, OBE (AL), the Virgin Islands is experiencing the cost of adapting to climate change, especially in the high cost of insurance premiums. Photo: VINO
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- With many in the territory calling on the government to fix the issues of high insurance costs in the Virgin Islands (VI), the Virgin Islands Party (VIP) government has been actively trying to address those concerns.

Deputy Premier and Minister for Financial Services, Labour and Trade Hon Lorna G. Smith, OBE (AL) reported at a press conference on September 16, 2024, that the VI delegation recently in the United Kingdom (UK) made sure to explore possible solutions.

She said such efforts included a meeting with Howden Group Holdings, an employee-owned insurance group that serves SMEs, corporates, and multinationals in more than 100 territories. 

Hon Smith remarked that the VI is experiencing the cost of adapting to climate change, especially in the high cost of insurance premiums. 

‘Excellent roundtable’

“I am pleased to say that we had an excellent roundtable with key members of the blue capital private sector, which included senior representatives of the Howden Group, one of the largest insurance groups in the world. 

“We agreed that investability and insurability will be key to attracting significant private investment into the Virgin Islands. I am determined to continue our discussions with these experts to assess how we can best utilise their support. Importantly, we will also be looking at how we can best incorporate our financial services expertise into this effort. I was pleased that Peter Tarn, formerly of Harneys was able to join the meeting,” Hon Smith reported.

According to the Howden Group website, it has offices in 50 countries and a network of partners in more than 60 locations. Howden Group also said it has over 18,000 employees and $38bn in premiums.

Hon Smith said, given that the Virgin Islands is currently unable to access funds emanating from the UN Climate Change Convention and the Paris Agreement, “we know that private sector climate finance will be an important element in helping the Virgin Islands build resilience and develop adaptation measures to help mitigate the impact of climate change.”

24 Responses to “VI delegation in UK held talks with one of the largest insurance groups in the world”

  • Name the BVI (17/09/2024, 10:01) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    broker for Howden Insurance in the BVI please!! Thank you
    • TruDat! (17/09/2024, 11:56) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      According to their website - they don't have one ATM. https://www.howdengroup.com/network-contacts
  • asura (17/09/2024, 10:12) Like (4) Dislike (6) Reply
    at least she working so give her credit
  • Wasted trip (17/09/2024, 10:35) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
    AYO CAME BACK EMPTY HANDED
  • Mary (17/09/2024, 12:53) Like (4) Dislike (9) Reply
    Hon. DEPUTY Premier
    Thank-you. That is good news. We love and respect you for your efforts with regards to this troubling insurance situation issue.
  • UK (17/09/2024, 13:06) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    Who is going to insure there asset , vehicle with Government run insurance.

    NHI is failure, Schools out of toilet paper ect, fix the infrastructure. The country is falling apart while you guys travel and spend our monies.
  • ccc (17/09/2024, 16:47) Like (1) Dislike (9) Reply
    thank God for Lorna or else this country would sink
  • Well Sah (17/09/2024, 17:32) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    It wont be long before ayo hear who will be representing them like chinese bank
  • E. Leonard (17/09/2024, 18:47) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    The [British] Virgin Islands ( VI) is a small chain of some 36 islands totaling approx 59 square miles with an estimated population of 35,000. It transitioned from a subsistence agricultural economy to a serviced-based economy, ie, tourism and financial services the mainstay and twin pillars of the current economy . It was once a neglected, forgotten, and one of the poorer islands in the West Indies/AngloCaribbean region. Today, though it boasts as having on the highest standards of living, quality of life, human development index, per capita income, etc in the region. Nonetheless, this growth and development have change its insurance needs and costs.

    “Insurance is the pooling, sharing of fortuitous losses by transfer of risks to insurers who are to indemnify insureds for losses to provide other pecuniary benefits on occurrences, or to render services connected with the risk.( George E. Rejda—Principles of Insurance).” Further pooling or sharing of losses is the heart of insurance. Insurance spread the losses by a few over the many, the group. The larger the number of people in the group, the lower the premiums paid by members. The average loss is substituted for the actual loss. Another factor that can lower cost is the Law of large numbers, ie,” the greater the number of exposures, the more closely will the actual results approach the probable results that are the expected from an infinite number of exposures.” The bottom line is that pooling a) entails sharing of losses by the entire group, b) the prediction of future losses with greater accuracy based on the Law of Large numbers.

    The larger the number of people in a group the lower the premiums paid by individual members. With locales with small populations such as the VI can mean higher costs. Insurance companies like other businesses are in business to make a profit. What can the VI do to lower insurance of residents?

    The VI government can a) self-insure or subsidized insurance costs . The likeliness of this is slim though, b) it can collaborate with other regional countries, ie, Caricom, to pool and share resources to meet regional insurance needs. c) work with large insurers to to add VI in dispersing their coverage over a larger geographical area. Was this the gist of what Hon Smith aim in meeting with Howden Group Holdings in the UK?
    • @E. Leonard (17/09/2024, 21:56) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply

      To E. Leonard, r@%$ meh son, you pierce the insurance bubble. With the BVI small population it looks like residents needing insurance may be on the hook for some hefty fees based the premise of insurance. Thinking about things now the BVI is a disaster prone area, ie, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, etc to the risks and hazards are high, exposing insurance companies to high payout. To counteract, the potential high payout, they set individual premiums high. R@%$ mon! look like we up the proverbial creek without a paddle. Government becoming self- insured is not highly likely. It may be able perhaps to do some level of subsidizing. I like the suggesting about a regional pool with hundred of thousands if not millions in the pool. The cost would be spread across a large population, lowering cost. Who is going to take the lead in getting something going regionally? MoF what you say mehson? How are other regional countries handling their insurance needs? How universal are the principles of insurance? Insurance so high in the BVI so I take a big gamble in going without? It is either pay the high insurance cost and avoid some family needs and I cannot do that.

    • Insurance Customer (18/09/2024, 07:20) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      Leonard,,it seems as if you making excuses for insurance companies to continue to rip us off while government does not nothing. Insurance is a rip off . They gleefully takes your premiums every year but when you file a claim you get the run around with all kind of excuses and again government does very line. Insurance is a rip, for you can invest in insurance, ie, property, auto, etc for decades and end up with nothing. I’m not holding my breath hoping for some relief because of Hon Lorna Creque Smith meeting with Howdin Group Holdings. What have/is the BVI benefited from the travelling junkets? Who is the insurance commissioner for the BVI?
      • Lack of Knowledge (18/09/2024, 14:30) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
        @Insurance customer, it is either that you know nothing about the principles of insurance or you know and very deliberately pleading ignorance to push a narrative. In any event learn the insurance basics. Basic finance, including insurance basics, should be taught in primary band secondary school. Why primary, if students don’t go on to secondary school they need finance basics. We pushing STEM or STEAM but there are lots of functional illiterate walking around. The colonialists promoted planned ignorance so we shoukd not do the same. Planed ignorance comes with a high cost..For example, having to import skills that Virgin Islanders and Belongers ( why are there two types of citizenship?) should be able to do well..The BVI was the last out of gate in regards to education but we should have up by his, should we not?
    • Disinterested (18/09/2024, 07:42) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      The word on the street is that Hurricane Irma is driving insurance cost up and unaffordable. What can government do help lower insurance cost., if any thing? Is price control an option? Insurance companies celebrate the good times but when it is time to pay out is another tory.
    • Down Islander (18/09/2024, 08:05) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      Mister, how come now you want to collaborate with other islands to help lower insurance rates? Nonetheless, and my rhetoric aside, regional people would benefit if they pool and share their risks whether it is property, automobile, disaster, etc..The region come together with UWI, CXC, CDEMA, West Indies Cricket Team, ECCA, etc. Insularity has hold the region back for too long; it killed the West Indies Federation (1957-62).
    • Cuz (18/09/2024, 22:32) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      Cuz, good discussion on insurance, the need for it , the high cost , and the high cost of not having it but should have had it. It is a huge gamble to not have it in this disaster-prone area. Moreover, the discussion was great. However ,one important thing which was not discuss was the 80% rule. What the 80% rule says that for a claim to be covered at 100% up to the insured value, the property must be insured at 80% of the replacement value. If it is ensured below this value, claims will not be covered at a 100% up to the insured value.Misunderstanding this rule have resulted in many disagreements between the insured and ensurers..
      • @cuz (19/09/2024, 07:18) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        @Cuz, how does this 80% rule work?
        • Cuz (19/09/2024, 09:44) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
          @Cuz, I will take a stab at it. Let’s say that the replacement value on your home is $400,000, you insure the property for $300000, and incur damages valuing $50,000, what is your out of pocket cost,,not including deductible.

          Multiply the insured cost of $300000 by the $50000 damage claim and divide by the 80% value which equates to $320,000: 300, 000X 50,000/320,000=46875. Your out of pocket or co-insurance cost is$50000-$46875=$3125. This figure does not include any deductible. It is to an insured advantage to insure for at least 80% of replacement value, if possible.
          • @cuz (19/09/2024, 12:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
            Cuz, thanks. Interesting. So when the agent say full coverage, full coverage is not full coverage. But rather conditional..Further, unless there is a high probability of a total loss from the roof to foundation, should I take the risk and insure for less than the replacement value, knowing that insurance is about uncertainty. My premium should go down since I’m assuming greater risk, and a larger co-insurance? Something has to give with the skyrocketing property insurance in the BVI. It is facing some property owners to take greater but not sensible risk.
  • Self Insurance (18/09/2024, 08:06) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Really? People think the BVI govt can self insure? What are its cash reserves? We haven’t even had an audited financial statement in how many years? Why hasn’t govt finished damage repairs from 2017? Could be it be lack of cash (what self insureds have to have on hand)? Why did the UK offer to guarantee a loan? Because we don’t have much collateral would be my thought.
    And, indeed, problem with living in small places is that insurance pools are smaller, so premiums will inevitably higher. Pooling with other areas is good for the insured, but insurance companies are looking to minimize pay-outs, so keeping it fragmented works better for them. And, remember, companies like Howden are driven by the profit motive. They’ll only come here if there’s money to be made, so why even think that they’ll do better than others. The govt’s past fiscal recklessness is also not likely to engender any kind of a sweetheart deal. As you reap…..
    • Stealth (18/09/2024, 09:44) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      @Self Insured, agree that government cannot self -insure; it does not have the cash reserves. BVI finances are a mess. Agree also that pooling risks with other areas is a good thing. Agree also that Howden will only come if there is profit in it and not just marginal profit; it must at least exceed their minimal hurdle rate. I have a different view about insurance companies may be averse to larger pools. Larger pools are good for both the insured and insurance companies. Large pool and the Law of Large Numbers allow insurance companies to closely approximate the number of exposures annually, providing for better management and lower prices.
  • Quiet Storm (18/09/2024, 11:36) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    These politicians always get our hopes up and come crashing down quickly. Do these people understand the principles of insurance? And if so are they just giving us a 6 for 9 ? It look as if government do some type of subsidy insurance probably will not be affordable. The BVI is just one catastrophic event, ie, a major hurricane away from insurance companies pulling up the gang plank, saying see yah. Think I’m joking ask Florida. ~ 35000 people. We screwed.
  • Bush Professor (18/09/2024, 17:48) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Insurance is an excludable service, ie, if the individual or government or someone else don’t pay for it, it will delivered; it will be withheld. Going without insurance in a disaster-prone area is a big gamble and if you lose can be costly. Insurance cost is skyrocketing, especially since the devastation caused by Hurricane Irma. Writ large, the masses are looking to government to provide some relief.
  • Political Observer(PO) (19/09/2024, 12:43) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Normally, serious and important commentaries take off on wild political tangents , rants,,etc. Property insurance is important to all Virgin Islands residents whether they are residential property owners, renters, business owners, etc. This commentary and blogs on insurance surprisingly was difference. It was educational, informative, etc. We learn something about insurance and small population, the utility of the Law of Large Numbers, 80% rule, importance of protecting a vital investment, the utility of pooling and sharing risks, etc. I went to school without setting foot in the classroom. I’m better armed now in making insurance decisions. Thanks yall.
    • Hablar Real (19/09/2024, 14:46) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @PO, real talk indeed. Now I have a formula to help ascertain my co-insurance , including deductible, cost and what the insurer should be paying. However, even with information the insurers will find some reason to delay or not pay at all. Instead of having to pay in lump sum, can insurance premiums be paid quarterly, monthly, etc. Insurance companies take money up front invest it to feather their nest but when it is time to pay legit claims they dodge and weave, finding excuses not to pay. What can government do , if any thing, to ensure that legit claims are paid?


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