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Trying to get a local employed 'extremely difficult'– Ag Labour Commissioner bemoans

- Michelle A. McLean said employers are deceitful in their job requirements
Acting Labour Commissioner Michelle A. McLean has revealed that it is a difficult task to get a local Virgin Islander employed in their own country. Photo: GIS/Facebook/File
Michelle A. McLean, the Acting Labour Commissioner said when the Labour Department would protest against the double standards by employers it would become a problem. Photo: VINO/File
Michelle A. McLean, the Acting Labour Commissioner said when the Labour Department would protest against the double standards by employers it would become a problem. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- Acting Labour Commissioner Michelle A. McLean has revealed that it is a difficult task to get a local Virgin Islander employed in their own country.

She said during the virtual stakeholder’s consultation to address labour concerns held yesterday, February 10, 2022, that there were a number of issues plaguing the department regarding localising the workforce.

She said when an employer places a job advertisement, it is suited for persons that they have already identified to hire, “specific to the details of the person’s resume.”

She continued: “Sometimes the description may have certain attributes that the person who is to be hired needs to have and when it comes here the application that is submitted with it, those skills and so forth are missing for the person they have submitted the application for.”

Challenges to employment for locals

McLean said when the department would protest it would become a problem.

McClean also pointed out that this problem also exempts locals from applying because they would feel they were not suitably qualified for the job being advertised.

“So it is a lot of things in terms of when you try to get a BV Islander/Belonger to fill a position, it is extremely difficult. You could try your utmost to try to get a BV Islander/ Belonger employed, you go through all the schematics they say are required, the person may have all the attributes, all the skills that they say are required and when the person go it’s a problem. Or they may decide they want to hire this BV Islander / Belonger but they still want the person on a work permit, but we have a pool of other applicants.

“It is extremely difficult. The Labour Department still has a mandate of finding employment for BV Islanders/ Belongers and I agree with the Minister we will not have all the employees to fill all of the positions available but at least they need to be given a chance,” she pleaded.

42 Responses to “Trying to get a local employed 'extremely difficult'– Ag Labour Commissioner bemoans”

  • satya (11/02/2022, 12:13) Like (15) Dislike (10) Reply
    So true! You just hit the head of the nail! I have experienced this when I got my Belonger starus. It was more difficult to find a job then and wanted to share my feelings during that time. Thanks for the opportunity now...
    • mhh (11/02/2022, 16:25) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
      Now that you have your belongers and no longer on work permit it takes away a lot of leverage the boss holds.
      If you dont like the treatment or the job is different from the job description you can go back home to Tola VG or JVD. Perhaps they need to implement a system where for every work permit issued there is a system find and to train one applicable local, over time there will be less excuses available as to why they cant choose from the local pool. Certain employers make up fraudulent skill requirements to get their workforce imported, at the end of the day they turn out to be shovel technicians.
  • too many loopholes (11/02/2022, 12:13) Like (31) Dislike (3) Reply
    Cant believe tolians dont want to hire their own, WOW!
    • @to many loopholes (11/02/2022, 16:11) Like (10) Dislike (7) Reply
      Believe it, tolians is very bad minded and stuck in their ways, especially the ones that are 50 years and older.
      • Cacique (11/02/2022, 20:24) Like (2) Dislike (3) Reply
        The oned ess thsn 50 years old,are more thsn likely not a Tolian in every sense. A quasi half ah dis and snd the distinctive DNA from then ether lands of evil and badness.
        The BVI has done itself a horrific disservice with the massive importationoof what they knew to be defective and destructive .
        • Lipidee (12/02/2022, 08:21) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          It’s glaringly obvious that you spelled ‘CACIQUE’ that way …. quite by ACCIDENT
    • The Wind (12/02/2022, 08:53) Like (3) Dislike (6) Reply
      Great that you've now seen the light and you believe it. I've personally experienced this myself with local banks, trust, and law firms on Tortola. I had all the required, fundamental skills and experience, or all the technical skills needed to execute tasks and projects, but because of the underlying agendas of these companies there was always an excuse as to why I couldn't be hired. They don't care about working with or elevating the locals. The mission of the Labour Department is truly quintessential to the constantly suffocated, local workforce.
  • It’s expected (11/02/2022, 12:15) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    Do they ever try to help to train their people,they give you a little petty contract and you have to finance a government and then they want you to hire people who don’t know what they are doing and say that they are helping you but they are right they are helping to destroy your dreams that’s all the government is good for, that’s why the deputy premier said that it’s a good thing to suspend the tender process and just choose a company to do the job cause their system has already bankrupt all the small businesses in this place
  • W*F (11/02/2022, 12:21) Like (16) Dislike (3) Reply
    This sounds like a failure of the Department in respect to its Workforce Development function. What have they done/achieved in this regard?
  • insider (11/02/2022, 12:23) Like (15) Dislike (24) Reply
    She needs to go!
  • smh (11/02/2022, 12:34) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    I stand with You on these Observations. Don't be undermined by some of these Empliyers. Notice that woman don't have one local or BVIslander employee. Why she never hire Locals? Master dead long time ago! We are all Humans and needs to be treated with Dignity and Respect.
  • hmmm (11/02/2022, 12:38) Like (46) Dislike (40) Reply
    The Labour Department needs a TRULY QUALIFIED, EXPERIENCED AND PROFESSIONAL HUMAN RESOURCE person to be the Commissioner! Of course some job listings are deceitful but dare to ask why? Ok sometimes it can be based on friends, race etc. But do you really think that is the overwhelming reason why some locals are not employed or employable? The people who have never owned or ran a business in their lives are always the first to try to dictate to those that have all the skin in the game, how the game should be played! These are the same people that think working in a bar and restaurant is all about pouring drinks and serving food, it's much more than that! Attitude and work ethic would make or break someone's business. Take a deeper look at the issues we are facing and come up with meaningful solutions. We cannot continue to beat this dead horse argument without addressing our education system. For the last 4-5 years our kids especially secondary level have not had proper instructions in school so you are saying the private sector are stuck with bringing them up to par? The reason many businesses are closed or running on fumes is because of the recent labour policies. Denying permits does NOT equate to more local employment, proper education and training does!
  • Jah is luv (11/02/2022, 12:46) Like (23) Dislike (0) Reply
    So start training locals to have the skills, this is clearly missing in this country. Work on Changing their attitudes so they are not so entitled, they turn up to work on time and do their actual jobs. Can you blame employers looking abroad when there are very little local prospects?
    Don't complain, start to train!
  • something gotta give (11/02/2022, 13:42) Like (3) Dislike (6) Reply
    The adverts are laughable for sure....i mean, why does a live at home newborn child care for an english expat need to be fluent in mandarin !! if its to teach the language.....not needed for 3 years...but more importantly, this would cover 2 work pernits..a private language tutor and a child care. ( all as an example).
    most of the charter companies taylor make their adverts for someone they want, all this takes time to research for the labour department and what need to happen is that potetial employers need to justify without any question of doubt to the labour office why indeed they need these " specialist skills". or make it mandatory if a permit is issued then an apprentice
  • WEW (11/02/2022, 13:59) Like (19) Dislike (60) Reply
    It's simple. Expats come to work with work boots, shoes on. Belongers want a ride to work & wear slippers.
  • two fold problem (11/02/2022, 14:10) Like (48) Dislike (0) Reply
    there are many issues which contribute to this and what im about to say will probably not be received well, but if we dont speak about it...it can never change. i want to preface this by saying that the labour pool in the bvi has improved considerably in the last 10 years and thats cudos to the educations systems, parents ensuring their teenage children get further education etc
    but heres the problem. there has always been a concern, certainly i the expat owned companies..that once a bvi islander is hired, it is almost impossible to terminate their employment if they fail to do the job properly. there has always been an air of entitlement for placement in jobs and because of this, there is a lack of discipline within the workforce because if a supervisor is non bvi, the BV islander sometimes is disrespectful to the chain of command..( here me out please) this is a two way street. foreign supervisors fail to understand the proper man managemnt skills which may work overseas, but just dont work here. dont get me wrong, in the 38 years of owning businesses here i have hires some really really good, hard working bvislanders ( and im not being patronizing) i genuinely mean that, however, i.ve had some battles over the years also,
    what we need to do is come up with a proper apprenticeship scheme in place...for every 2 permits thwre needs to be a shadow apprentice earning a wage, and learning the trade.. what ever that ratio is, there has to be an obligation o the companies to train bv slanders i to these positions, but if they dont pull their weight the they get rotated out of the program. we also need to make sure that work permit holders, once they leave their job, that they dont automatically get a new permit. maybe annual renewals need to be looked at also.
    the trouble is that employers unfortunately feel more protected by having a work permit employee..because if they step out of line, then the permit isnt renewed and problem goes away. Locally owned companies are some of the biggest offeders of this ( hate to say it), and we all know about the social security issues of deductions being made but not paid in.
    i dont mean to offend anyone by what ive said, but it needs to be said, it needs to be talked about, and it needs to be addressed.
    if you feel you wish to tear me aopart on the blig for saying all of this, please direct your energy to finding a solution.
    labour office has one of the hardest department to run, having to balance local versus expat employment while at the same time supporting businesses to survive and thrive. hats off to them.
    respectfully submitted
  • respect (11/02/2022, 14:23) Like (12) Dislike (2) Reply
    The staff need to treat the persons seeking work permits with some sort of respect and dignity. Not making them feel like they’re begging .
    The people are given appointments and go there for hours waiting and are not even given one of ‘ We’ll be right with you or How can I help you.
    Come on man!! Is this BVI love?
    I am a BV Islander and I am ashamed when I hear these reports.
  • They know (11/02/2022, 14:28) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    All the issues that were brought forward from the public last evening are well known to the management. Not sure why they were pretending to hear those issues for the first time.
    A work permit from last July? Come on!!!
  • raise the bar (11/02/2022, 14:33) Like (4) Dislike (7) Reply
    raise the work permit fees for certain businesses and give credits for placements of BV Islander into the workplace..... incentivise owners of companies by way of a points system, points per bv islander placed..get to a certain percentage of staff as bvIslanders and the owner gets WP exempt..
    labour office needs to engage with the owners of the company more,
  • ta ta (11/02/2022, 14:34) Like (9) Dislike (6) Reply
    Because the locals will not take the abuse and tell them about themselves
  • @ LOOPHOLES (11/02/2022, 14:38) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    DOES THAT MEAN THE EXHIS EVILNESS
    PATS ARE TO BE BLAMED AND INSULTED SHOWED OFF ON ? IS IT THEIR FAULT FOR TRYING TO MAKE AN ( HONEST ) LIVING ?
  • UKM (11/02/2022, 15:11) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    @too many loopholes, tolians are not the only employers in the BVI so so your comment is very stupid.
  • psssh (11/02/2022, 15:21) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Tell that to some of the law firms around here.
  • Brave (11/02/2022, 15:25) Like (18) Dislike (1) Reply
    I am grateful to Mrs. McClean for being honest and speaking publically on this issue and clearing up what we all know and are trying to deny knowledge of. Locals are second-class citizens in their own country when it comes to hiring practices. I have worked in the Civil Service for many years and unfortunately even the Service has jumped on this bandwagon. I once discussed with a good friend of mine about closure of a small boutique as she was awaiting arrival of someone overseas to get a work permit. I asked my friend if no one who just graduated High School, one of her daughters friends, couldn't take on the job. I went as far as to say post the job at the College and take on two students part time, as why do you have to bring in someone for that. It was a very small boutique and, yes, it was a BVIslander. The time of year, August, and over a hundred graduates looking for work, High School and HLSCC graduates. Also, as I said, small business, two young students could assist as well.

    I gave this example to point out that we are second class citizens in our own Country. A lot of our young, energetic, bright young people go on to college, graduate and return home and are forced to return to another man's country because over six months and someone with their Bachelors and Masters Degrees cannot find work. We know already there isn't a BVIslander available who can throw a few ingredients in a machine to make icecream.

    The Head of Government hiring actually showed us only persons who were born, raised, educated and worked in the U.S. for a number of years are suited to hold the top positions in their HR Department. It wreaks of dehumanizing BS. Sure there are BVIslanders who are lazy and do not want to work. Nobody asked you to hire those, but not one can be found, nor two, nor three? Unfortunately, if you let a man wake up every morning and sit on his behind watch movies, play games and ride about on bikes, after a while you won't want to work either. That is a free life. They manage to eat and clothe themselves on their parent's dime without a 9:00 to 5:00. But every country has this or should I say every country in the Caribbean has this. There are, however, lots of locals who wants to work, who are interested in changing jobs and would experience more upward mobility if not for the widespread use of persons on work permit. That is what is different in other Caribbean countries. Good, bad or indifferent, I have a right to first preference in my country. Because you have a good worker and she has a sister or brother in her home country, you do not have a right to a work permit unless a local cannot be found. It happens for entry level as well as high-level positions and it is wrong. Why? Where is the reciprocity? Even nurses, I can speak about at least five nurses who got the requisite experience and came home and no one at the hospital was interested in hiring them in their country and they simply had to pack their bags and leave.

    I pray for my country and I want the best for it. But their will eventually be an exodus of expats, both our Caribbean brothers and sisters and those from further afield because of this dysfunction in Government and the high cost of living. And some of these businesses should be left without workers for months and let the decision makers have to do the work so they can see the benefit of hiring at home. Some are saving costs by paying less and, of course, you will work harder if in another man's land.
    • @Brave (11/02/2022, 16:07) Like (1) Dislike (4) Reply
      Ok Cindy.
      • @@Brave (11/02/2022, 17:15) Like (13) Dislike (0) Reply
        You would be surprised how many more BVIslanders can see and understand what is going on in their country. I am not Cindy but you are free to call me whatever or whoever you want. But we are entitled? Well heck yeah, we are entitled. Entitled to work and upward mobility on the job in our own country.
  • U r g e nt (11/02/2022, 15:31) Like (4) Dislike (6) Reply
    She needs to terminate the services of her hairdresser immediately !!!!!
    Yikes.
  • My College Professor (11/02/2022, 15:44) Like (16) Dislike (0) Reply
    Always preach.." Your Attitude determines your altitude"....Locals have to work on their attitudes, You cant always challenge bosses and expect to be on his team..
    • @my college proessor (11/02/2022, 16:37) Like (3) Dislike (13) Reply
      Thats quite a sweeping racist outlook. Attitude attitude... Why are you even in the BVI with that attitude. All thats says to me is you suck at vetting during the hiring process and have a big ego where everyone has to be submissive to you. Wake up and smell the coffee this isnt slavery days perhaps your not treating them with the proper respect and expect to throw a dollar for them to bend down and pick up. food for thought.
  • Optimist (11/02/2022, 19:26) Like (11) Dislike (2) Reply
    Why we don't say what the real issues are ?....whenever you hire some locals by three to six months they start finding excuses as to why they're are not satisfied with the job, then they stop coming to work.

    SOME OF THEIR WORK ETHICS IS DESPICABLE.
  • my observation (11/02/2022, 20:13) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
    what I notice happening lately is that a very high number of the expatriates that coming here to work and mainly from two Caribbean Islands and one South American country are people that are illiterate. this is only my observation. they are here doing menial work and some in the construction industry. when a small country like the bvi take in a high number of illiterate workers what would end up happening in the long run?? some bright blogger might want to answer this. I am not guessing about these illiterate people and I do not have anything against these people but I am in love with the beautiful British Virgin Islands and its people and I worried about their future. serious action need to be taken and taken now .ALL WORK PERMIT SHOULD BE FOR A CERTAIN TIME. The minister responsible talked about this but nothing has been done. yes you would have some cases with special skills but that can be dealt with. within the last four yrs I have encountered many expatriates that cannot read and write as a matter of fact I recently met one person that do not know time on a clock.wow.just wow. .and the strange thing about some of these cases is that belongers are fighting tooth and nail to get their friends and family in saying how skilled they are and when they get here they cannot do anything else more than laboring work and even that they cannot do. please don't misunderstand what am saying. some very highly educated and some highly skill workers do come to our shores. but the bvi also have some highly skilled and very qualified people to fill many of these vacancies but from time immoral the business owners most of the time want work permit holders to work for their business and all the governments that afraid to touch the issue. one previous government tried but that was over 40 yrs ago. something needs to be done to protect the people of the bvi because the expatriate workers are not going to do it.
  • Hmm (12/02/2022, 06:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    They too love to say "i from hay" i think that become a negative comment and it is costing them.
  • Partly true. (12/02/2022, 07:15) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Ms. McClean, what you are is only half of the story. You are talking like there are a lot of Locals lining up for work and are turned down. The jobs that are available are construction workers, hair dressers, sanitation workers, Security Guards, Gardeners, self packers, warehouse workers, Cashiers, home care workers, cleaners, Barmaids, Store clerks, Dish washers etc. These are the jobs that are filled by expats. The truth is most locals are not looking for these jobs since they believe they are low class and minimum wage employment and I agree, who would want to put up with the conditions in these places?
  • ATU (12/02/2022, 07:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    We do that alot. We treat locals bad and hire persons from outside and bring them in.
  • Truth!!! (12/02/2022, 08:55) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    Mrs Mc clean cannot just make a blanket statement like that. Every profession has its challenges. I am a BVI islander and have all residents and belongers workimg for me in one of my establishments. A very rare thing in the hospitality profession in the BVI. My people dont want the work in restaurants and hotels unless it's a managerial position of sitting at a desk these days. Most of my people can be very disrespectful when it comes to adhering to job descriptions and SOPs. cooks, dishwashers bartenders, mixologists, service attendants, house keepers all very difficult positions to fill. Especially on the outer islands. We have one a
    Culinary program and it's a shit show at this moment. That's Hospitality.

    Constrution... which one of my people gone to get trained in masonry, plumbing, electrical board certified? Very few for the amount of work it has throughout the BVI.

    Government is not doing anything training wise or are they allowing private entities to do so. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • The Wind (12/02/2022, 08:55) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Great that you've now seen the light and you believe it. I've personally experienced this myself with local banks, trust, and law firms on Tortola. I had all the required, fundamental skills and experience, or all the technical skills needed to execute tasks and projects, but because of the underlying agendas of these companies there was always an excuse as to why I couldn't be hired. They don't care about working with or elevating the locals. The mission of the Labour Department is truly quintessential to the constantly suffocated, local workforce.
  • It’s simple (12/02/2022, 10:01) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Locals are lazy as hell. Every one I’ve tried to hire has failed at the most menial tasks. They call in sick all the time and if they do make it to work they are late. When they arrive they mope around alll day moving at a snails pace with their head hung low like they are ashamed to be at work. Don’t bother trying to get them to talk to a customer. Trust me I wound love to save the thousands of dollars I spend on permit fees. I would love to get back all the lost days waiting for permits and immigration stamps. Business would be so much easier and more profitable if I didn’t have to hire expats. But these kids here can’t do simple maths and have zero work ethic. Until that changes you have the status quo.
  • ausar (12/02/2022, 10:35) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    Many observations from afar has led me to conclude:

    Not enough is being done to train Belongers for positions.

    Not enough patience towards Belongers in the hiring and maintenance of employment.

    Too low wages for positions well requiring higher salaries.

    Not enough training facilities to encourage great hospitable skills.

    Terrible attitudes of employers toward Belongers, especially if last name and provenance amasses to vast real estate, monies, and access to social and political power.

    I am convinced that there is a workable solution but it will take all of us, employers, employees, Belongers and others, to recognize this.

    Can we change the attitudes of expat employers towards Belongers?

    This is the 64 million dollar question that has to be answered for the betterment of the country!


  • L**s (12/02/2022, 11:20) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Pure lies, what's their function to the indigenous population ,------- (0). So how can this lady present such data. When I know for a fact that less 30% of local ever been up in that department building. Who is she again? Miss we don't know you ! Stop hurting your own people. How about starting off by interducing yourself and a few work shops like HIREBvI etc...
  • We are 22 years into the 21st century, perhaps try something new? (13/02/2022, 03:25) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    The fact is that the institutions and infrastructure of the Virgin Islands is barely able to sustain the local population as it is. A casual glance at constant scheduled water and power outages, and clamouring for school spaces would tell anyone that. Likewise, the businesses in the local economy are content to operate as though the paper-based economy will never die (it is dying globally) and as though quaint, family-run business operations will be the stuff of the future in saecula saeculorum.

    The Virgin Islands government need not put all its eggs in one basket in similar fashion, however. Are there a minority of Virgin Islanders and belongers with a poor work ethic who would be more liability than asset to any business operator? Yes. But does that mean that all Virgin Islanders should be tarnished with the same brush? Absolutely not. Quite a few of us have been applying and applying, only to hear that we are 'overqualified' when advertisement placers deign to respond. It is frustrating all around.

    I would suggest that given the current infrastructure and institutions on island and the fact that not everyone CAN or SHOULD remain in such a small territory, the Government of the Virgin Islands would do well indeed to investigate the possibility of facilitating locals emigration to other locations where we can hone our skills, earn a living and send REMITTANCES back to the Virgin Islands as a percentage of our earnings over the first few years, in recompense for this facilitation. There is nothing to be gained from having Virgin Islanders sit idle and Virgin Islanders of the past were more than capable of making it abroad in St. Thomas, the Dominican Republic, New York and elsewhere. Just because we are local does not mean that we have the capital needed to start and run our own businesses, nor is entrepreneurship for everyone.

    I implore the Ag. Labour Commissioner to set aside a small task force to investigate the possibility of helping Virgin Islanders go abroad in this age of globalisation and to make ourselves and our country proud while easing the unemployment burden. There are countless Virgin Islanders abroad, and the surplus here is not to anyone's benefit. In this way, regardless of the conditions of the local economy, the remittances stream from abroad can help just as it does in countries like the Philippines and Nigeria (among countless others) that do EXACTLY this instead of putting all their eggs in one basket.


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