Some believe only rogue Gov’ts pushing concept of self-determination– Carvin Malone

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Former Government Minister, Carvin Malone (AL) said the concept of self-determination of British Overseas Territories is one that has been long in the making since the late 40s and not a recent concept being pushed for nefarious reasons as some believe. Photo: GIS/Facebook

Mr Malone was a guest on the August 28, 2023, edition of Umoja hosted by Shania M. Smith-Archer, on the topic of self-determination and his one VI agenda. Photo: Facebook

Will some social commentators calling for independence in the VI, Premier, and Minister of Finance, Dr the Hon Natalio D. Wheatley (R7) says independence for the Virgin Islands (VI) will be a decision for the people of the territory during an episode of Territories Talk', on July 13, 2022. Photo: VINO/File

BAUGHERS BAY, Tortola, VI– Former government minister Carvin Malone (AL) said the concept of self-determination of British Overseas Territories is one that has been long in the making since the late 40s and not a recent concept being pushed for nefarious reasons as some believe.

Mr Malone was a guest on the August 28, 2023, edition of Umoja hosted by Shania M. Smith-Archer, on the topic of Self-determination and his one VI Agenda.

Reasons for self-determination

“There are some folks of the notion that it is just a government that wants to be rogue coming up with this whole concept of self-determination,” Mr Malone said.

“It is not that at all. And if there's anyone who's rogue, then laws should be put in place. Laws should be enacted, laws should be followed in order to get it back in order," he related.

Mr Malone added that someone who wasn't born in 1962 or shortly after 1962, will not know of the history of self-determination unless they were taught.

“The whole concept of the C24 is to further educate and properly educate all of the remaining non-self-governing territories, as to what their status should be, what it should look like and as they have narrowed into the three options,” he added.

UN backs greater self- determination

The United Nations via the Committee of 24's (C-24) has reaffirmed the right of the people of the [British] Virgin Islands to self-determination and for self-governance in the territory to be upheld.

So far, the three most discussed options for greater self-determination of British OTs have been independence, integration or free association with the UK.

According to the General Assembly, resolution 1541 (XV) of 1960 entitled "Principles which should guide Members in determining whether or not an obligation exists to transmit the information called for under Article 73 e of the Charter", a Non-Self-Governing Territory can be said to have reached a full measure of self-government by Emergence as a sovereign independent State, Free association with an independent State or Integration with an independent State.

Independence a decision of VI people - Premier

With some social commentators calling for independence in the VI, Premier, and Minister of Finance, Dr the Hon Natalio D. Wheatley (R7) says independence for the Virgin Islands (VI) will be a decision for the people of the territory. This was said during an episode of Territories Talk', on July 13, 2022.

Addressing questions on the possibility of independence in the VI, Dr Wheatley added, “Well, definitely independence is a decision for the people of the Virgin Islands that they will express through a referendum. But certainly, I think if we are ever to take that step, it will be because we have helped mature our institutions.”

40 Responses to “Some believe only rogue Gov’ts pushing concept of self-determination– Carvin Malone ”

Rhythm up.. (05/09/2023, 14:22) Like (7) Dislike (5) Reply
Carvin you seem afraid of something...You always on this pushing it...Can't wait for Fahie Trial to hear the unknown. Britain too is waiting patiently..
- @Rhythm up.. (05/09/2023, 17:40) Like (16) Dislike (15) Reply
  You UK paid blogger just hush. Carvin is correct.
asking for a friend (05/09/2023, 14:25) Like (13) Dislike (5) Reply
Wonder when they will get around to looking at the structure of the current law that gives governors a free past?
- @asking for a friend (05/09/2023, 20:18) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
  Good question as both he & his UK Commissioner of Police are abusing their powers in a lot of ways and violating the common law abiding citizens rights. It is also alleged that the reason BVI people are being turned down by the US for ESTAS and VISAS is because of non-factual malicious information cloaked as reliable Intel they are feeding to them behind the scenes. We have no laws to hold these people accountable.
herbs power (05/09/2023, 14:42) Like (6) Dislike (4) Reply
This vaccine kingpin should keep quiet.
- @herbs powe (05/09/2023, 17:42) Like (5) Dislike (6) Reply
  Stop this misinformation. The Governor and UK were the only vaccine king. They brought the vaccine and promoted it as the savior. Get your facts straight.
  - herbs power (06/09/2023, 00:25) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    @ herbs powe. Who was buying people lunch to take the poisonous vaccines? who was pushing it everyday on the news for two years strait. was it the governor?
    - @ herbs power (06/09/2023, 10:44) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Who only gave us pennies throughout the years towards our survive but was quick to send us hundreds of untested vaccines?
      - @herbs power (06/09/2023, 17:36) Like (1) Dislike (4) Reply
        When the government was giving out money to Tom dick harry and Larry where were you? Y’all hate the Uk so bad and want money from them lol pick a side
- @herbs power (06/09/2023, 10:38) Like (1) Dislike (4) Reply
  However we feel about the vaccine I can atleast say he kept us informed and probably did his best.
asura (05/09/2023, 14:53) Like (4) Dislike (3) Reply
but who will oppose a people being free?
Waite for it (05/09/2023, 15:10) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
Looser bad mind people
- UK resident (05/09/2023, 18:05) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
  When you research what is now taking place here in the UK, life is much worse here than in the BVI and most OTs. Serious crime and illegal drugs and guns are on a significant increase and the UK economy is extremely sluggish. Leadership is not stable. Life for most common UK residents is not good and most of us are disgust with the current policies and leadership. These are the cold hard facts although our UK Officials try to portray their leadership as stellar the facts do not support it. BVI you have always done well and with a few adjustments you can go independent and do well. Do not let the UK Officials continue to put you down and make you feel as if you can do nothing good. It is an old suppressing tactic that you must not fall prey to.
- He is a Virgin Islander (05/09/2023, 18:12) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
  We all as Virgin Islanders have a voice whether elected or not so your point is mute. Having said that let's first start addressing real issues to eradicate colonialism and abuse of power by modernizing and amending the COI ACT as it was passed in 1880 during the slavery era and mentality. Its purpose was never to bring balance and fairness but to always rule in the colonial masters favor. Note to ammend this ACT was not a COI recommendation as it favors the UK high handed actions. Most of its content which was used in the COI can be challenged in court with success. People now have rights and they must be allowed to exercise those rights without wrong doing being covered up on all fronts locally and by the UK. There must be balance. There must be equity. There must be fairness.
ccc (05/09/2023, 15:17) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
There are significantly more black people, both in absolute numbers and per Capita, in the bvi so why should white people miles away rule we?
- coi (05/09/2023, 16:55) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
  Because power corrupts all and with a population of less than 20,000 bvislanders and most not even generational bvilanders some kind of checks and balances are needed, look at the majority of caricom countries , they all want to come to the BVI to work, answer that question then ask why not stay somewhere where they are independent???
  - @COI (05/09/2023, 18:40) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    The COI was camfloouged as checks and balances but it is about more than that and this is the concern. Everyone is for checks and balances which means the Governor & UK should not be left out of this equation. They need to be made to be accountable especially to the people of the BVI as well.
  - To coi (05/09/2023, 21:37) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    You have been brainwashed to believe the coi was transparent. All the subjects under the Governor was given a free pass and when something was flagged under the Governor imagine the assigned coi Commissioner give it to the Ministers. What about all the corruption in the police force including many missing money and drugs from these drugs buss. What about the many allegations of ill gain riches by some past Governors. These things were covered up in the coi because they are subjects under the Governor. So you do proper research before you talk piddle.
lodger (05/09/2023, 15:18) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
Another example of rampant incompetence that will rob future generations of opportunity and success By remaining a colony
Manjack (05/09/2023, 15:36) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
Agree with Mr. Malone that self-determination is not new. After WW2, the UN developed a list of 72 non-self-governing territories which should have the opportunity to freely pursue its own political status; 17 countries remain on the list. The UK was appointed as the ‘Administering Power’ to guide the Virgin Islands [British ] towards a full measure of self-governance. I take a different view on Mr. Malone take on free association, integration with the UK. The VI should have the opportunity to free associate or integrate with whomever it wants. The Cook Islands and Nuie free associates with New Zealand. New Zealand is responsible for defence, and foreign affairs.
Rather (05/09/2023, 16:12) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
Don’t you think you need to get your house in order first? UK isn’t going to entertain this nonsense until COI implements are well and truly fixed and proven you can keep it from going off the rails for some time. Try focusing on more important matters first. Gun crime, roads, sewage, corruption, drugs, power etc etc….but then again hot air and smoke and mirrors Marlon eh?
- To Rather (05/09/2023, 18:09) Like (7) Dislike (2) Reply
  Oh please. Show me where is perfect. Certainly not the UK. Tell Governor and UK get their house in order by following the laws of the land. For example the new register of interest act makes it mandatory for all elected and public officials/servants to register their interest and make them public knowledge. However, the Governor and all his UK staff working locally in the BVI have insisted they be exempted from doing the same because they claim they are registeredi in the UK. NONSENSE!!! It is these kinds of high handedness that bothers people about the actions of the Governor and UK while trying to portray that their goal is fairness and balance when in fact it is about dominance and control. We must fight these things and speak out against them.
One word (05/09/2023, 17:42) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
Independence
my run (05/09/2023, 17:48) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
Now if we were independent the current Commissioner of Police would have been prosecuted. He or John ranking is NOT above the laws in tola Investigate, then give the public clear, honest answers on both of them
Putting things in perspective (05/09/2023, 18:14) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
We all agree there are important issues to discuss and get public input. We all agree our country must improve in certain areas and is doing its best to do so. We need to start discussing the failures of the Governors. What about discussing a modern day slavery whip of an order in council to suspend a constitution in the 21st century until things like the judiciary, the 48 unrealistic COI recommendations, and others are operating how a mere few men from the UK want it to operate & be implemented. How can this be correct when there is no law in place to also hold a Governor and UK accountable. People still want to know and see the ad with the criteria and salary offered to the person selected to do the COI. Was this tendered? Was this advertised? Who vetted the applicants? Was the person hand picked? Who decided the salary and terms of reference? Who paid for it? Was this all done according to the COI AcT in BVI? Why can't these questions be answered? Why only one Commissioner for the COI was selected? Was this by design to get a specific result? Why was he from the UK? Why the UK, UN, CARICOM, and OECS, could not each independently name a Commissioner to sit on a board of Commissioners to allow transparency and fairness to do the COI? Why was the staff for the COI selected solely by the UK & were all from the UK? Why was all the COI staff persons from the same UK department as the Governor? Was the COI really independent and transparent as the Governor is claiming? Would we think so if what was done by the UK to initiate the COI was done by our local elected officials? Did the Commissioner of the COI lie to immigration and Customs when he came to BVI and did the Governor on Why he was entering the BVI? If so, is this not an illegal act punishable by law? Who really wrote the 48 recommendations in the COI report? Where they written before the COI started? Where is the other government UK lawyer Cox report? After all every story has 3 sides, yours, minds, and the truth. Where is the letter the Governor wrote to the UK in confidence asking for the COI? Was it factual? Where is the letter the Governor wrote in confidence asking for the Order in Council to suspend the constitution? Was it factual? The BVI public needs to see all these things so history can be accurately recorded. The BVI public needs to know all these things. The BVI tax money pay for a seperate lawyer for the Governor for the COI so why is the Governor, UK, & some locals upset about the speaker's lawyer bill being paid by taxpayers? What is the difference? The Governor is im charge of the police. Is he using them with the UK Commissioner of Police to promote their cause through abuse of power? The well organized intentional negative narrative the Governor & UK Officials is painting on the BVI is seeming as if it is currently working somewhat because the REAL TRUTH is not getting out. The FULL TRUTH NEEDS TO BE SET FREE. Then and only then will the BVI & ITS PEOPLE be set free.
Hmmmm (05/09/2023, 18:15) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
The public service in the Constitution is under the Governor and all Governors for the past 30yrs have failed in their responsibilities and now want to hold a pre-arranged COI "so called" independent COI with pre-authored findings & recommendations to try to throw all the blame on elected officials/Ministers and public officers and get some of you to believe their well organized plot to try to cover up their colossial failures to try to justify their need to take over. It is as wicked as you can get.
No more blind support (05/09/2023, 18:16) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
I use to support the Governor but a few things made me wake up and stop my blind obedience. First, it is becoming clearer and clearer the COI was not independent like the Governor is saying. Second, I have an issue with every week the Governor giving speeches only highlighting all his perceived challenges in the BVI and what seems to be wrong. For him BVI can do nothing right. Last, I got totally turn off from the Governor when he said out of his mouth that all past & present Governors never did anything wrong and was blocked from implementing certain new initiatives to strengthen good governance. Beware of anyone who behaves as if they have no sin
Where is the modern partnership (05/09/2023, 18:18) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
Britan and their Governor make it seem as if they are promoting good governance and transparency but post for me where you can find the detailed steps/procedures of how an OT like BVI, Anguilla, etc can follow to the "T" and apply for independence. I have not met anyone who can find this information because it does not exist. Why? Simple! Britan says with their mouths who want independence can have it but their actions show they do not intend for that to happen as there is no transparency nor fairness in this "so-called" modern partnership. They cannot insist on things they are not doing themselves.
Don't be fooled (05/09/2023, 18:21) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
There are more on the ground with Carvin than some of you think. Independence is the only way forward for the BVI and all Caribbean OT. The UK will never believe in us. They will never see us as equals. They will never respect us. They see themselves as superior and us as inferior. There will never be balance nor fairness with them.
Open our eyes (05/09/2023, 18:24) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
The UK is using the 48 recommendations to block any hope to get independence. Read those recommendations thoroughly all with sense will see they are giving us a knife to cut our own throat for them so they can say their hands were clean. We are walking into a trap.
- @Open our eyes (05/09/2023, 19:59) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
  This is deep.
what a pity (05/09/2023, 18:30) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
This same second guessing of ourselves took place when the Isrealites were afraid to go with Moses to oppose Pharoah and come out of Egypt. Years later we are here facing the same thing with a few thinking the oppressor is working in our best interest and we need to stay under their rule at the expense of future generations missing the promise land God has for the BVI.

BVI PEOPLE WAKE UP & COME OUT OF MODERN DAY EGYPT.
independence (05/09/2023, 19:07) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
These politicians are pushing for self governance so they can get access to money and make decisions without accountability to anyone. If you think that 40mil was squandered, let’s go independent. We won’t know there our people’s money will be going. We, the voters will have no say in any decision making. We will suffer when our treasury is broke and investors decide to pull out. Think long and hard on this independence they are pushing for. We will end up a poor country. If you think our roads are bad now, go independent, they will be borrowing from everywhere getting us deeper in debt. It’s a downward spiral because they don’t know how to manage out taxpayers money. It’s all self serving for them. Have they done anything about the greedy bill yet??? Stay woke BVI!
- @Independence (05/09/2023, 19:58) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
  It is ignorance like your post is what we need to liberalize ourselves from because that is the foolishness the British Officials are trying to brainwash us with.
  - @ “@Independance” (07/09/2023, 02:38) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    God help us all if/when we go independent. When you and all of us are suffering worse than we are now, you will be wondering why in the world you supported it. You must be high on that same marijuana bill you want passed. You don’t realize only a few pockets will be lined when that’s passed. The only good that will come from that is you will be able to smoke up without being arrested. So let the marijuana keep you in your own bliss while our ship sinks in independence. I might be dead and gone but our children will be left behind to suffer. Mark my words…
- @Independence (06/09/2023, 10:45) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
  Have the UK done anything about fixing or advancing the canabis bill yet? The bill that properly written will boost the economy & healthcare sectors?
@ CCC (05/09/2023, 19:21) Like (4) Dislike (3) Reply
U must be in LA LA land / we were given the privilege of governing ourselves by ourselves for ourselves and still after the COI , the corruption continues , and its not the brits that is exploiting / manipulating or ripping off us ( ITS US ) yep hypocrites like U who singing your racism & colonialism lyrics to create distractions , from .the real truth , but we ain't that stupid , keep on blogging your racist sh*t under different names we are seeing right through them ( with or without you precious WIG
- @ @ccc (05/09/2023, 22:00) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
  So then, on one hand we have our corrupt leaders and on the other hand our colonizers. The two oppressors! We take the blue pill and we continue sleeping and allow the hidden agendas of our colonizers to continually govern over us and control our minds and our lives generationally. We take the red pill and we wake up and take control of our destiny. Although, we will have to fight a few battles to remove a few Judas’s from our midst, but we will live in truth with open eyes!
  
  Maybe we should do as the Nigerians and other African nations have done then. Forge Our Own Destiny! A People United with the Trinity ‘God’ could never be divided by corruption and mental slavery!
- To @ CCC (06/09/2023, 00:24) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
  You mean fools like you call anything you do not like corruption. You also only see everything any local government or person does as bad and everything the Governor and UK does as good. This alone shows your ignorance and bias.
Josiahsbay (06/09/2023, 09:10) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
The biggest obstacle to self-determination is a colonized mind.

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