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'Rewrite laws' that no longer work for yachting industry- Andrew Ball

- said some laws governing modern yachting industry in VI have become antiquated
Chairperson of the BVI Marine Association Mr Andrew Ball said while he understands the shock and scramble to get the local yachting industry regularised as it relates to the territory's laws and compliance, it was the loose enforcing of the laws that set a quantum regarding how the industry operated. Photo: Facebook
Appearing as a guest on the March 17, 2022, edition of the My BVI show, Ball suggested that the approach was not ideal given the history of how the industry operated. Photo: Facebook
Appearing as a guest on the March 17, 2022, edition of the My BVI show, Ball suggested that the approach was not ideal given the history of how the industry operated. Photo: Facebook
Premier and Minister of Finance Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) during a press conference on the issue on March 18, 2022, said the Virgin Islands' agencies, namely Virgin Islands Shipping Registry and HM Customs, have been working for months with the operators and stakeholders in the Virgin Islands to ensure that the companies are compliant and to receive their commercial licences. Photo: VINO/File
Premier and Minister of Finance Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) during a press conference on the issue on March 18, 2022, said the Virgin Islands' agencies, namely Virgin Islands Shipping Registry and HM Customs, have been working for months with the operators and stakeholders in the Virgin Islands to ensure that the companies are compliant and to receive their commercial licences. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI - Chairperson of the BVI Marine Association Mr Andrew Ball said while he understands the shock and scramble to get the local yachting industry regularised as it relates to the territory's laws and compliance, it was the loose enforcing of the laws that set a quantum regarding how the industry operated.

This comes following a crackdown by HM Customs on close to 200 vessels operating in the VI while not in compliance with the territory’s laws, including not having a valid license or safety certificate.

Appearing as a guest on the March 17, 2022, edition of the My BVI show, Mr Ball suggested that the approach was not ideal given the history of how the industry operated.  

Upgrading of local laws 

"There's really two pieces of legislation here that are tripping us up, one if which is the requirements for the boats, so that the safety inspections hat everyone is talking about... and the other is our local Customs law, which is called the Commercial Recreational Vessels Licencing act," he added. 

Ball said the latter act, is one that was written in 1992 with no substantial amendments for regulating the industry in today's world. 

"What I gathered has happened, is that we've sort of slowly walked away from our enforcement of that law up until very recently... because the industry moved away and it didn't really work."

"There's a very simple solution to this problem and I think is to re-write the law, fix the law. There's nothing wrong with regulation, that's a good thing. We need to protect the BVI, we need to protect the industry, we need to protect our guests, we need to protect our reputation," he added. 

Ball added that the laws can't be written in a vacuum, as such the Government needs to get everybody involved in the industry around the table. 

All stakeholders must be involved - Mr Ball 

"Much like the industry can't write this on their own, because we don't know what governments needs are, we don't know what their restrictions are, its the same of the other side," he said. 

Mr Ball added that if the objectives of both sides are not fully understood, new laws won't be effective. 

In mid-March 2022, close to 200 yachts operated by Moorings/Sun Sail and a number of smaller companies and private individuals were restricted from operating after they were found to be in breach of a number of compliance measures.

Gov't did not have flexibility in some areas- Premier Fahie

Meanwhile, Premier and Minister of Finance Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) during a press conference on the issue on March 18, 2022, said the Virgin Islands' agencies, namely Virgin Islands Shipping Registry and HM Customs, have been working for months with the operators and stakeholders in the Virgin Islands to ensure that the companies are compliant and to receive their commercial licences.

He said where the licensing and compliance enforcement are concerned, there were some aspects that are within Government's discretion but there are also some areas where it does not have flexibility or discretion.

"And this is because adherence to the industry conventions is a matter of international law and our international obligations as well as required by the UK, of which we are a member of the Red Ensign Group."

Premier Fahie added that while some persons may want to say that the government is trying to damage the industry due to the relevant agencies doing their enforcement or by implementing certain requirements, "persons must be clear in understanding that we are following our obligations to enforce the conventions and our obligations to the UK and the other OTs as a member of the Red Ensign Group."

What is Red Ensign Group?

The Red Ensign Group is a collaboration of United Kingdom shipping registries including British Overseas Territories and Crown dependencies. It takes its name from the Red Ensign ("Red Duster") flag flown by British civil merchant ships.

The Red Ensign Group's stated purpose is to combine resources to maintain safety and quality across the British fleet.

The Red Ensign Group's registers are divided into two categories:

Category 1 - register ships of unlimited tonnage and type. Category 1 Registers are Bermuda, British Virgin Islands (BVI), Cayman Islands, Gibraltar, Isle of Man and United Kingdom.

Category 2 - register commercial ships and pleasure vessels of up to 150 gross tons (GT). This limit can be extended to 400GT with an agreement in place with the UK. Category 2 Registers are Anguilla, Falkland Islands, Guernsey, Jersey, Montserrat, St Helena and Tucks & Caicos Islands. 

40 Responses to “'Rewrite laws' that no longer work for yachting industry- Andrew Ball”

  • On the other foot (23/03/2022, 11:55) Like (11) Dislike (11) Reply
    When I see Mr Andrew Ball at the front of the line condemning the antiquated law used to call the CoI on the BVI then maybe we can take him a little seriously. Such a law cannot be used on a country that has made so many economic, political and constitutional advances...without the help of the Uk.
    • Call BS (23/03/2022, 12:22) Like (22) Dislike (4) Reply
      @On the other foot
      I call BS when I see it. Where is the linkage between the CoI and the subject of the article? It's not there.
      BS!
      • @Call BS (23/03/2022, 13:33) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
        Your comment is a perfect example of "whataboutery". Whataboutery is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy, which attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving the argument. In simple terms, two wrongs do not make a right.
      • Windy (23/03/2022, 13:56) Like (7) Dislike (6) Reply
        Bell is just another r..t
      • IMO (23/03/2022, 14:14) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
        Laws are Laws aren't they? If I want to medicate myself with Ganja Tea, being that most of the world has moved on from seeing it as a criminal offense, but I live here; can I just get up and grow and brew ganja tea b/c the law concerning it is antiquated? No I cannot.
  • Blah Blah (23/03/2022, 12:05) Like (5) Dislike (8) Reply
    Andrew who ?
  • HAHA (23/03/2022, 12:26) Like (19) Dislike (11) Reply
    Mr man only cares about profits. Leave it to them they would reduce or ignore safety measures to increase profits. They will push it as far as they are allowed to go. These guys run a business. Their priority isn’t to provide a service it is to be profitable and remain profitable at all cost. Everything else is secondary.
    • W*F (23/03/2022, 13:34) Like (8) Dislike (7) Reply
      Do you really think that the industry doesn't understand that safety affects profits?
      • HAHA (23/03/2022, 17:49) Like (5) Dislike (2) Reply
        If they did they would have complied well within the several months they had to rectify their issues before they were fined. Some of these things could have been implemented before the law. Awareness and expertise alone isn't a solution. Every year countless products are recalled, most times only after dozens are killed and injured. Some people take shortcuts to cut cost. Look at the building that crumbled in Florida last year. They had to follow regulations, ignored recommendations and almost 100 people died. There are always going to be "experts" who feel they know best. Most times they are always focused on whats best for them, not us or the industry. Look at that one business that chose to defrost chicken in the sun. Look at the bakery that was shut down for a few days to get proper screening on the windows and doors. They know flies were a problem and the occasional reptile and small mammals but it was easier and cheaper than paying for someone to make improvements. A lot of experts in the early days of financial services knew that there were lapses in due diligence and there were chances that some criminals were using them for money laundering but they chose profits and only did something after the AML legislation was passed so dont wait on these guys to want to do the right thing.
      • simple (24/03/2022, 12:12) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
        If they were they would not have been in this mess and now crying foul
    • huh (23/03/2022, 13:40) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
      safety equipment approved by US coast guards are not accepted here. so do say anything about safety most boats are fitted with safety approved by US coast guards.
  • W*F (23/03/2022, 13:10) Like (14) Dislike (0) Reply
    People should watch the full interview. Some important points raised.
  • smaller companies (23/03/2022, 13:38) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    don't say smaller companies, it have company her with more boats in their fleet. mooring just have more boats in the bvi than all of the other companies.
  • hmmm (23/03/2022, 13:42) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    customs for working for months with the companies? No it was less than 6 months.
  • just another racist (23/03/2022, 13:57) Like (8) Dislike (32) Reply
    Tell andrew get out of my country
    • Call BS (23/03/2022, 16:30) Like (17) Dislike (0) Reply
      @just another racist
      I'm still calling BS when I see it, and your comment is nothing but BS.
      • @just another racist (23/03/2022, 20:46) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
        Because he white you called hin a racist.. please do us all a favor and jump off a cliff.
  • bvi (23/03/2022, 14:15) Like (3) Dislike (7) Reply
    Man Keep on rolling. who asked You ?
    • Customs & the Govt. Messed up (23/03/2022, 15:57) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
      I am fron a law enforcement back ground and the greatest power a law enforcer has is "Discretion" U access the situation, figure the best corrective method then you look at what your decision will be and the impact of your decision....Then you apply the law appropriately.. Taking into consideration your discretion is a power you have... SO. The impact of customs decisions wasn't properly analysed.. Sad..it was a bad decision by customs.
    • Ummm (23/03/2022, 16:38) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
      it looks like John Cline did
  • he again (23/03/2022, 15:51) Like (20) Dislike (7) Reply
    But this man wasn't moving to the USVI, when he didn't like the covid rules? Wasn't the BVI yachting industry supposed to crumble because he and a whole set was leaving? What happened?
    • You might notice (23/03/2022, 16:28) Like (12) Dislike (6) Reply
      Companies did move their boats to USVI. They did not bring them back. Businesses continue to leave. Look around. The industry is crumbling as our government continues to undermine its foundation.
      • Piss (24/03/2022, 12:14) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
        No it's not crumbling, it was affected by COVID-19 yes, just like in many other countries. Stop crying wolf just because you can't get to break the laws. Reminds me of a certain Governor Jaspert
    • Dave (23/03/2022, 16:34) Like (17) Dislike (6) Reply
      This man continues to fight for the BVI despite the way we treat them. We should be thankful. He warned us of consequences and he was correct. We should start working together.
  • The TRUTH (23/03/2022, 16:35) Like (18) Dislike (9) Reply
    The Truth is... Customs could have just come in and fined the Moorings and Sunsail, and continued the fines for each week they are not in compliance. After all, we all realise that the actions taken by Customs are about the money, and safety has very little to do with it. Customs could have taken the fines, and let people have the vacations they paid for. But NO! Instead they had to make some sort of draconian statement, and with it sullying the reputation of the entire territory. This is so typical of the combative attitude that Customs takes about pretty much everything. The leadership at BVI Customs could use a serious attitude adjustment.
  • Smh (23/03/2022, 17:05) Like (16) Dislike (7) Reply
    Some people always trying to convince the BVI that it cannot survive without them when it is quite the opposite.
  • 1992 CVRL Act (23/03/2022, 17:17) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    This Act became law during the HL Stoutt government with the VIP in power. The BVI yacht charter industry was just over 20 years old and still recovering from Hurricane Hugo in 1989. In those days the VIP administration worked closely with the BVI yacht charter industry to draft a law that resolved various problems in that industry at that time. The lead spokes lady in those days was the director of the Ship to Shore Yacht management company located in Village Cay Marina. She worked closely with Stoutt's VIP administration to draft a practical law that provided sound solutions to the various problems plaguing the BVI's young charter yacht industry and it was successful for over 20 years. However as Mr. Ball states this law has served the BVI well but it's overdue for an update now that the BVI charter yacht industry is over 50 years old and much different than it was before 1992.
  • cnn (23/03/2022, 17:21) Like (16) Dislike (8) Reply

    Who gives a rat @#$ what Andrew ball thinks? Let he go back South Africa and try and do what he wants there

    We not in this ra**** opp****** behavior with he

    • @CNN (23/03/2022, 20:50) Like (5) Dislike (3) Reply
      That the best you can do?? Because he is white that automatically him racist??!! Please be original.. we board..
    • Thoughtful Sailor (23/03/2022, 22:49) Like (4) Dislike (5) Reply
      Whether YOU are a racist or not, I will not speculate, since I do not know. But you ARE showing your ignorance, and allowing that to make you jump to your conclusion. I know Andrew well, and he is not a racist. And, contrary to your assumption, he is not South African. He is Canadian! And he has been working hard on behalf of the BVI for a number of years.
    • W*F (24/03/2022, 03:33) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
      Idiot... he is not even from South Africa. That man Canadian. All you can do is call him racist because he white and you don't like his truth? That IS racist!
  • respect (23/03/2022, 18:52) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
    Dude knows his work and you respect that. White black dude just trying to move the industry forward.
  • And so. ?? (23/03/2022, 19:24) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    The premier said this customs action would not affect the BVI spring Regatta. Well it has. …… there have been cancellations for the regatta because of the moorings debacle
  • Not new (23/03/2022, 19:57) Like (7) Dislike (2) Reply
    come on...these laws have been in place since 2004. the charter companies just chose to ignore it.
    financial service industries have to have a compliance officer so that thwy can do what they do...so why is it that a large company such as the moorings dont have someone similar. why dont tye smaller companies have compliance contracts with someone to make aure that they are comoliant with THE LAWS OF THE TERRITORY. I was in the charter industry for over 30 years here and i.l admit, we moaned and squarkwd when the laws were out in place for commercial operation, but we always complied, each year..its not hard, just not so streamlined is all.
    absolutly no excuse for on compliance and it is good that the governmeny is finally putting its foot down. timeing could have been better, but dont make excuses for laying down the law.
    well done customs, welk done shipping reg.
  • comfort (23/03/2022, 22:29) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
    Peiple get too comfortable doing what they please in the BVI.Therefore when they have to abide by the laws they get offended.
    • W*F (24/03/2022, 09:12) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      After the last 5 years why would anyone think that these business are "comfortable"?
  • Norris Turnbull (24/03/2022, 05:57) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
    At comfort.... yes they do.
  • Franco (24/03/2022, 12:22) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Went down to the pubs to hear what they grumbling about. The general opinion is that it is a money grab by government. What's your take?
  • Citizen (24/03/2022, 15:17) Like (5) Dislike (2) Reply
    Ball you still in BVI mehn, thought you were leaving durin lock down when the going got tough.


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