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Referendum not necessary for VI to seek independence– Dr Carlyle Corbin

- says Political parties who win with Independence on platform, it can be assumed that is the decision of the people
According to Dr Carlyle Corbin, while the idea of a referendum is not on that is necessary, it would be useful to have target date and timespan for independence to be determined by the Governments of the day. Photo: Facebook
Skelton-Cline was at the time speaking to guest Dr. Carlyle Corbin on his Honestly Speaking radio show edition of March 29, 2022, on the topic of the VI seeking independence from the UK. Photo: Facebook
Skelton-Cline was at the time speaking to guest Dr. Carlyle Corbin on his Honestly Speaking radio show edition of March 29, 2022, on the topic of the VI seeking independence from the UK. Photo: Facebook
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI– Consultant and clergyman Mr Claude O. Skelton-Cline says the Virgin Islands (VI) should not have to seek permission from its colonisers, the UK, for independence.

Skelton-Cline was at the time speaking to international advisor on governance and United Nations expert Dr Carlyle Corbin on his Honestly Speaking radio show on March 29, 2022, on the topic of the VI seeking independence from the UK.

While Mr Skelton-Cline, an advocate for independence, has been calling for a referendum of the people on the road to independence, Dr Carlyle Corbin said it is not necessary.

According to Dr Corbin, while the idea of a referendum is not one that is necessary, it would be useful to have a target date and timespan for independence to be determined by the Governments of the day.

Referendum not necessary

Speaking directly about the referendum, Dr Corbin said, “It’s one of the means by which determination can be made,” on the road to independence, but it is not necessary.

However, Dr Corbin noted that if a political party has independence on its platform and goes on to win the elections, then it can be assumed that it is the decision of the people to move towards that direction.  

Dr Corbin advised that should the VI decide to seek independence, the UN has the mandate to assist, along with the support of the administering power.

Skelton-Cline responded: "Why do I need to seek from the one that is holding me hostage, seek their permission to be free?" He questioned. 

Dr Corbin said the territories themselves making their voices heard with regards to moving towards more self-determination can be a strong determining factor.

Meanwhile, Premier and Minister of Finance Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1) has said in the past that the people of the Virgin Islands will decide when the VI will achieve its independence.

29 Responses to “Referendum not necessary for VI to seek independence– Dr Carlyle Corbin”

  • Slim Jim (30/03/2022, 18:55) Like (34) Dislike (0) Reply
    Excuse me???????

    I couldn’t care less what the so called “experts” from where-ever say… if the BVI is going to seek independence, it needs to be done with a clearly stated referendum where the voice and input of the people residing and invested here is sought, accepted and respected. Anything less is a bulldozer attempt to impose the view of the few upon the many.

    I find this article and the fact that input was sought in this direction to be an alarming bell-weather for the method that this or future governments may seek to take to achieve short-sighted aims of a politically-driven platform that won’t necessarily spell out for the people the pros, cons and necessary steps to be taken before, during and after the decision is made to “go solo”.

    While I am not going to say “never”, it does bother me that we have all of these politicians, consultants, “experts” and opinion-makers saying that its easy, or that we can just adopt the US currency, or that our economy will not be affected in any way… look at BREXIT: They made an emotional decision that they didn’t properly explain to the people, didn’t outline or honestly present the hurdles to be faced, didn’t prepare the people for the growing pains, and are still struggling to deal with. And that is the UK… they are much better connected, have wealthy and powerful alliances and trade partners, and their own currency, defense system, trade market and a vast pool of resources to pull from. They acted in haste and the regular people now are repenting the rushed moves.

    So, lets stop pulling the wool over the peoples eyes and playing on their emotions. I may be sick and tired of “mammy and daddy telling me what to do”, what time to be home and how I should live my life, but until I can take proper care of myself and foot my own bills, I should humble myself, stay at home, live under their rules (having respectful dialogue when a conflict arises), work on my financial and living conditions and prepare for the day that I can sustain myself AND a family. That’s responsibility on an individual level and we should adopt no less as a country.

    And we as BVIslanders need to pay careful attention to what is going on in our country. The servants have become the masters. The people are powerless and the representatives dictate the direction. They give us pennies every 4 years and steal millions daily. For a country that has been so blessed with a vibrant economy, a high per-capita, and resources to be envied, we have been terribly mismanaged over the years by successive governments. Forget the “party” talk and evaluate the person… ask them hard questions, seek direct and transparent answers, and hold them accountable. This is not 1947, this is 2022… we can easily do fact-checking, due diligence, “play the tape” and verify what we are being told. Don’t just rely on the hand-picked “expert” opinions.

    Amateurs built the ark while the “experts” said a flood was impossible… so seek God’s guidance in these matters and lets not “lean on [our] own understanding”. This is not just about us but our children and their children.

    I’m done.
    Don’t get me started again.
    • Ask the people. (30/03/2022, 21:52) Like (22) Dislike (1) Reply
      Perfectly put Slim Jim, thank you. It’s a very worrying stance to assume that just because a government is elected that every single one of its policies are what the majority want. We have to remember too, that with the greatest respect to our ministers, we have a tiny pool from which to choose and often it’s a case of picking the lesser of two evils as opposed to actually supporting all of their proposed policies.
      • smfh (31/03/2022, 12:43) Like (8) Dislike (1) Reply
        What needs to be made clear is that this Corbin person is not just a consultant. He is a preeminent ADVOCATE FOR independence. He lobbies the UN restlessly calling for small states independence (and it doesn't seem to matter that they may not be in a position to survive this). He is very happy to be here to help free you poor backward black people.

        Corbin is from the USVI. I'm wondering why he isn't over there freeing his black people from the big bad Colonial USA.
        • Slim Jim (31/03/2022, 13:40) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply

          I agree with your input and refer to the following links which can be found by simply googling his name...

          See more at

          Lets find out more about these "consultants" and "experts" before we buy their stuff wholesale. Everybody has an agenda these days.
  • say what (30/03/2022, 19:03) Like (26) Dislike (2) Reply
    as a born citzen of these virgin islands the people should be allowed to go to the poles and cast their vote for independence or non independence. use the same procedure as when we vote for political parties. No sitting government must be allowed to make such an important matter let the people speak because as a united kingdom territory our people have enjoyed given benefits for many many years. suddenly some have this desire to make a mountain out of a molehill. We have so much issues with political leadership now; just imagine when we go independent with no one looking over their shoulders
  • Paid advertisement. (30/03/2022, 19:14) Like (28) Dislike (1) Reply
    Wonder how much he was paid to read what Andrew write... Common sense would dictate that such a serious step forward will need the people input, more so the majority approval..
  • Citizen (30/03/2022, 19:28) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
    The people who live in this territory are the ones to decide what they feel will be best for them.. No one or two persons can do that for the population. We have been handling our affairs all the time. Remember we did not get where we are with others making decisions for us. We were always a part of the decisions.
    • @ citzen (31/03/2022, 07:49) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      Agree with your comments. Some do not understand that seeking separation from the United Kingdom is more than a British Virgin Islands conversation. The international conversation will include what currency will we use; can we continue spending the US Dollar.

      the people must have a say

  • Native Senior Citizen of the British Virgin Islands (30/03/2022, 19:38) Like (20) Dislike (0) Reply
    Beware Of Wolves Disguised As Sheep.

    Many people will rush to help you get in trouble for their profit at your experience, but when you fall, then you are are left to fend alone.
    Clearly it can be seen by those of us that value good judgment that Claude Skelton don't care much for the citizens of the British Virgin islands. The things that he mostly vcares about are money, and power.
    If you were to follow a wolf, you will becomes wolves food. If you follow snake, your end will be in the snake's belly. If you take advise from CSC, you will be as one in a violent storm being captain by a novice that no not how to read the ship's compass, loss at sea. We are in a violent economic storm at this time in our history, love, faith, unity, proper planning, and good judgment are urgently needed to keep Ship BVI afloat
  • rattie (30/03/2022, 19:49) Like (1) Dislike (19) Reply
    Ok let’s get our freedom fast from the oppressors
  • WE IN HOLLYWOOD (30/03/2022, 20:42) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
  • E.Leonard (30/03/2022, 20:47) Like (3) Dislike (15) Reply
    Undoubtedly, Dr. Carlyle Corbin is a recognized and respected international governance advisor. Nuff respect for his knowledge, skill, etc, on government structures. Nevertheless, though a referendum may not be a definite requirement in pursuing independence, the VI is a parliamentary/representative democracy, so a majority of the VI people who are eligible to vote should participate in a referendum to decide what political status the territory should have. This is part and parcel of the democratic process.

    The current governing dependency model as promoted by Dr. Corbin is already riddled with many democratic deficits, so the VI should not be exacerbating the situation, depriving citizens of democratic rights.

    Under the UN charter, the VI people have the unobstructed right to pursue self determination, including independence, free association, integration, etc. The VI is currently listed as a self-governing overseas territory of the UK. However, that s a farce, a mirage, for the special powers, reserved powers and assent ability given to the UK-appointed Governor under the constitution can thwart the will of the duly elected HOA without recourse. This unilateral action is not self-governance; it still ‘rank’ of colonialism.
    • Cause I dont Know (31/03/2022, 10:48) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      It is easy to point to “special powers, reserved powers, and assent ability” as this vestige of colonial power, but to the extent that it has been made known to the people of the Virgin Islands has a governor ever exercised “special powers, reserved powers, and assent ability” to bills, laws or procedural matters that was backed by sound legal and logical taught and possessed no issue or challenged to established internal laws or treaties.
      • W*F (31/03/2022, 13:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        @Cause I don’t Know, it is either that you know the facts and you are deliberatively ignoring the facts or you are misinformed. WTF!
    • RealPol (31/03/2022, 13:33) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      @E. Leonard, real talk. As Mr. Gradgrine in Charles Dickens classic Hard Times, you bringing the facts. The detractors best defense is just hitting the dislike button. Just hitting the dislike button without comment adds nothing to the debate.
  • Tvip (30/03/2022, 20:51) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    Be careful what you wish for.....floods, Irma, Maria, pandemic and now war.....we need a helping hand
  • Sherlock (30/03/2022, 22:56) Like (22) Dislike (0) Reply
    I hate to point out the obvious but here are just a few things that we can’t get right; the airport, the cruise pier, a high school wall, the roads, telecommunications, banking, public service… going independent will drive this country into the ground
  • 1 2 3 (31/03/2022, 02:59) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    And remember , when we go Independence, EVERYONE living here will become Virgin Islanders Automatically.!!
  • Rubber Duck (31/03/2022, 06:23) Like (1) Dislike (13) Reply
    No need for no referendum if we want to be free from slavery let’s do it now the British has a history of oppression
  • guy hill (31/03/2022, 06:44) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    We have to calculate the future cost of any actions taken in regards to these Virgin Islands we call home. Lets not fail to plan. The people, all the people must be involved and on the same side.
    • E. Leonard (31/03/2022, 13:14) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      Whatever political status the VI settled on should be driven by a cost-benefit analysis. Further, the VI should not and cannot plough ahead without a strategic National Development Plan. Proper Planning Prevent Piss Poor Performance. This alliteration is a reality. Every project starts with planning.
  • josiah'sbay (31/03/2022, 08:07) Like (1) Dislike (4) Reply
    A people that is afraid to pursue self-determination has lost it lust for freedom or simple don't want it. While we argue about making a choice for self-determination a choice is being made for us, reverse integration through UK's directives is at work. The UK wants political participation and Belonger-ship status which means integration.
  • we the ppl (31/03/2022, 08:14) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    If we get independence CSC should denounce his US citizenship so if things run amok he can’t run to the states
    • Hash (01/04/2022, 07:43) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Look at how CSC is trying to guide us as stolen, no lost sheep.
      Even if we are lost we are not blind or illiterate..
      VI people let

      us bring forward a referendum to deport CSC back to Detroit.
  • My say (31/03/2022, 09:27) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    Would Dr. Corbin so easily advise that a referendum is not necessary for the USVI to seek independence from the USA? After all, the USVI is not an independent state. And if they are not seeking independence, because they enjoy stability; why would the BVI be advised to leave their house of safety to roam around outside in the night in the darkness without even a flashlight. There are many factors that the people of the BVI need to discuss and consider before jumping into independence unprepared.
  • UKM (31/03/2022, 10:01) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    @josiah'sbay Where do you people get all this Bull $hit from, some of you are a very blind.
  • Yeah but (31/03/2022, 10:39) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Let’s say we did go independent, can the BVI (or insert new name here) sustain or even protect its financial services market.
    The BVI is constantly ranked in the top 100 of the Global Financial Center Indexes How much of our perceived political stability is inferred from our OT status? And how does going independent affect the perception?
    The detractors and agitators that like to drag the BVI through the mud for its financial services will not decrease after independence, more than likely they will increase. For those advocating independence, I need to see a plan for how we can protect the hundreds of millions in revenue that will come under attack.
  • Citizen (31/03/2022, 13:21) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Stop fooling the people about slavery. Slavery ended decades ago. The only slavery in this territory is mental slavery. We do not have any form of protection at the moment except what we get from UK. Not even a defense force..Show gratitude where it is due. What is the rush? Some people are interested in power only. Be careful the same people do not put you back in physical slavery. We have one Premier at a time. Give him a chance to converse with the people of the territory.

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