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Referee walks off b/ball court in protest at EE/LL league

- Referee Nelson C. Hull felt he had no other choice when he walked off the basketball court in protest over some rude and undisciplined players in the 7th/8th district Xmas League playoff; however he praised the Hon. Julian Fraser Basketball League
Referee Nelson C. Hull aka Joe Jack, felt he was left with no choice, but to walk off the court with 5 minutes left into the 4th quarter of the game, which was won by the Nottingham Bulldogs, 70-62. Photo: Facebook
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – Although adding an exclamation mark to an otherwise competitive night of action in the 7th/8th District Dr. Irad Potter Christmas League, on Wednesday, January 15, 2014, one of the Referees felt he was left with no choice but to walk off during the Nuttin Nyce, Nottingham Bulldogs playoff game.

Deep into the 4th quarter of the game, which was won by the Nottingham Bulldogs, 70-62, Referee Nelson C. Hull aka Joe Jack, felt he was left with no choice, but to walk off the court with 5 minutes left.

Speaking exclusively with Virgin Islands News Online, Jack said, “It was my first time reffing a game in the league, I like to be part of helping the youths, but they showed no discipline and seem to want to be the players and the Ref. too.”

A strict disciplinarian, Nelson felt he was left with no choice, but to walk off after a few players kept questioning his calls, especially a “steal” by Nuttin Nyce which he called as a foul.

Hull, who won’t return to the League after the incident, which was felt to be nothing more than competitive players perhaps being overzealous in the heat of the moment by some observers, will instead be focusing his interest in helping the Prison set up a league at Balsum Ghut.

“Some players should know better,” he suggested. “I felt good leaving home, but can’t tolerate players crossing the line. I wish the League all the best, but also believe Sponsors and the Organisers have more of a role to play in ensuring their Tournaments are well run and disciplined. They should (sponsors) visit the games and see what happens rather than just putting up their money.”

Hull, who came back to Basketball after a two-year break following similar lack of discipline and following a melee at a Tournament held in Duffs Bottom, felt that all future leagues should take a leaf out of the Hon. Julian Fraser/ Save the Seed Basketball League.

“I was impressed with that Tournament,” he said. “I was impressed with the fact the Honourable Julian Fraser came to the games, the discipline was good and the games well organized. Sponsors have a role to play beyond finance, they need to come and see what goes on. I remember one sponsor, when we played outdoors on the concrete in town, saying if there were any fights to pack up the uniforms and put them in a box, the shirts don’t belong to them!”

Whilst Jack has undoubted Refereeing credentials, the problem he faced is one that crosses many Sports.

Whilst players are constantly trying to lift and improve their game, what is being done by Federations and Associations to keep the Officials well versed in new rules, new regulations and even providing frequent refresher courses.

“Players should know better,” concluded Jack, “but because of a lack of organization sometimes the environment is not good for referees and other officials. Players watch TV and think it’s the NBA, with NBA Refs, but we play to FIBA Regulations, which aren’t the same.”

With more understanding from both sides, perhaps there can be changes to the perceptions with “Elite”, more experienced players adopting a role of councilors to younger players with the aim of improving relationships with Officials in all Sports, but as one such player commented without wishing to be named, “Sometimes it’s hard in the heat of the moment as we have to deal with performing whilst given less leeway than others. We take more abuse or contact and yet still have to show our skills, shooting under contact etc and it’s not always easy.”

It seems with all the District Leagues sprouting up and more demands being made on both players and Officials alike, the new Basketball Federation that will be in place after the January 23, 2014 elections will have much to ponder as they look to plot the future path of the game in the Territory.

Could the situation have been handled better from all sides? Probably yes, but Hull made a stance based on principal and the Players and the League Organisers should admire him for that, whilst taking a good look at the bigger picture and find ways to stop what is in danger of becoming an epidemic in the game.

As a salient last point Jack pointed out, “players shouldn’t play the game if they can’t take the calls. We are all human and make mistakes, so for the good of the game, let’s hope everyone can find a way to improve. People come to watch the players, but without Officials there can be no game.”

19 Responses to “Referee walks off b/ball court in protest at EE/LL league”

  • egg face (17/01/2014, 09:29) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
    yea dem to dam rude
    • Release (17/01/2014, 12:14) Like (1) Dislike (8) Reply
      How about you take your logic one step futher.... one can also have rude referees
      • rude (18/01/2014, 21:37) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        How about you stop encouraging your kids with foolishness? This is one of the reasons I stop attending these games. Too music undisciplined youths
  • flat bush (17/01/2014, 09:33) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    Joe jack ain't easy
  • x factor (17/01/2014, 09:40) Like (1) Dislike (12) Reply
    this man does not know the game so no great lost
  • ready (17/01/2014, 09:48) Like (31) Dislike (2) Reply
    Sorry, but I think all rude players should be removed from the games immediately.
  • one drop (17/01/2014, 09:50) Like (21) Dislike (0) Reply
    Joe Jack I wid you 1000%, the only thing some of these players know is the good feeling they get when they see the guys in the NBA performing and they want to be like that. They know nothing about the discipline of the game, they do not understand how to take their frustrations , which is real, and help their game. It is partially a fault of the system, if we start developing our youths from young we will not have such a big problem.
  • jokes (17/01/2014, 10:37) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
    It starts with discipline at home.
  • Yup (17/01/2014, 11:14) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
    This is why I refuse to go to these games especially cramped up in Belle vue gym. My kids love basketball and I want to take them so bad, but with all the smoking, cursing and fighting for any little thing, I won't waste my time. I'm no Fraser fan but give jack his jacket, I attended a few games at save the seed and the environment was great for family enjoyment.
    • parent (17/01/2014, 12:30) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      enrolled them in little league basebal..l gm and the other guys them got a good thing going on there!
  • old man (17/01/2014, 11:25) Like (3) Dislike (13) Reply
    Joe jack to old to deal with dem new generation of young ppl
  • HELP HELP HELP (17/01/2014, 14:10) Like (0) Dislike (6) Reply
    Mr. HULL How about focusing on getting deeds kids into some mentorship programme they need help that is why the out burst
  • EE/LL christmas league fan (17/01/2014, 15:23) Like (1) Dislike (3) Reply
    Mr. Hull you have to be fair and note to yourself that the call in question which made you walk off the court infact you were out of position and that was not your call. Your position on the said play was to be along the sideline when infact you were out of position on the baseline. There was a ref standing right infront of the play and in his eyes he said it was a clean steal. You also called a couple technical fouls which I feel were a bit much for the actions on the court and refs don't call 3 seconds anymore, they simply warn the player that's guilty of being in the key too long to get out. Mr. Hull I think you've been away from the game a bit too long so you have a bit of catching up to do as it relates to the rules which governor basketball in the BVI now
  • Mr. Jo Jack (17/01/2014, 15:26) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
    The 7th and 8th District League has never had a fight nor games had to be cancelled. I go to various leagues all around the territory and I see the players get on worst than the said night. The players and all that were attacking him play in the Town league each year and he has the same problems with them. Why everybody on 7th and 8th so? Fraser league expelled teams from playing for their behaviour and Alvera league can't even finish. They always say nothing good come out of the East but I can say the 7th and 8th District basketball League is one of the best. I enjoyed Fraser league as well, I attended each night especially in support of my East players who made up the majority, but I can not allow people who came one night to chastise the 7th and 8th Basketball League.
  • teacher john (17/01/2014, 18:37) Like (7) Dislike (2) Reply
    While I admit fraser league is the best its a new league wait till year two and three you will see fights
    • GoonSquad (17/01/2014, 21:51) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      See fight again? and it done had one already at the beginning of the league. His league is no better than the other leagues. The 6th district leagues was a well put together legue and had no fights until the championship game of this yea. All have hot headed players at times..with that said, none is better than none.
  • Thanks (18/01/2014, 21:43) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Joe Thanks for making a stand. Unless somebody stand up these kids will continue the same crap
  • Just Me (20/01/2014, 19:25) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    ...Leaders must lead by example
  • yes it is (21/01/2014, 09:55) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    ...sports in the bvi is a cesspool.


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