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Giving belongership status can reduce remittances - Hon. Fraser

One of the issues said to be affecting the economy is that of remittance. This was raised by a resident of Sea Cows Bay at the community meeting called by Third District Representative Honourable Julian Fraser, RA at the Valerie O. Thomas Community Centre on May 30, 2013. Photo: VINO
"One of the things we can do in the BVI is to reduce the level of remittance (The money that people come to work here send back home), the one thing we can do is change people's status," suggested Hon. Julian Fraser. RA. Photo: VINO
SEA COWS BAY, Tortola, VI - There have been many suggestions and opinions flowing throughout the Virgin Islands as persons explore every possible means of improving the economy of the Territory.

One of the issues said to be affecting the economy is that of remittance. This was raised by a resident of Sea Cows Bay at the community meeting called by Third District Representative Honourable Julian Fraser, RA at the Valerie O. Thomas Community Centre on May 30, 2013.

Hon. Fraser said it might be possible to reduce remittances from the Virgin Islands to other countries by seeking to change the status of some expats living in the Territory but noted it was the kind of discussion that is avoided because so many people take it in the wrong way.

"One of the things we can do in the BVI is to reduce the level of remittance (The money that people come to work here send back home), the one thing we can do is change people's status," suggested Hon. Fraser.

According to the resident, who had expressed her view about the travel tax increase as announced by Premier and Minister of Finance Dr the Honourable D. Orlando Smith in the House of Assembly, "There is a difference between us going to St. Thomas to shop, Moneygram and Western Union. When we come from St. Thomas nourishment come back, materials come back but with Western Union all that come back is a phone call from the other end saying the money has reached or it didn't reach."

Seeking to explain his suggestion, Hon. Fraser said that if a person comes from another country with an immigrant status to work in the VI they tend to send the money back to their home land. However, if given the status of a Belonger that person is more likely to seek to build his/her home in the VI, which means the monies remain in the Territory.

"It’s a very difficult situation. This would have to be a national strategy on the part of government and no government could implement a strategy like that in four years...The challenge would be that with governments changing regularly the priorities may differ," said Hon. Fraser while adding that governments of the Virgin Islands do not do the required long term planning. "We only plan for four years and after four years it dies."

Hon. Fraser described the concern raised by the resident as a "heavy point".

38 Responses to “Giving belongership status can reduce remittances - Hon. Fraser”

  • Mark (10/06/2013, 08:25) Like (16) Dislike (2) Reply
    Changing people status? I am sorry but perhaps I am missing something. How can changing one statust effect the outflow from the Territory via remittences? Regardless of status there will always be remittences leaving the Territory bearing in mind that our that our Caribbean brothers and sister living amongst us all have relatives in their native lands. This will never stop. The simplest way to tackle this problem is to indroduce price control to curb local business from selling their merchandise at such high prices. Every last one of them can do better.
    • @ Mark (10/06/2013, 08:52) Like (4) Dislike (37) Reply
      Wow the NDP bloggers out early on vino…can’t touch Fraser our next Premier
      • What folly (10/06/2013, 10:05) Like (3) Dislike (13) Reply
        How is changing someone's status prevent them from providing for their families? Most come to work, save and return to better their own country. Not everyone is interested in laying their jones here. Next premier my foot! Not with this level of reasoning.
        • sick people (10/06/2013, 13:23) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
          You are a silly pathetic person "What folly". It is obvious that you either cant read or you cant understand. Who is suggesting that these people be prevented from providing for their famalies? You are so stupid you cant see the big picture. Besides, if people are offered the opportunity to become belongers and they dont want it, fine. No one is forcing them to take it.

          And if they become belongers no one is stopping them from sending home money.
  • Well Sah (10/06/2013, 08:33) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
    Change status and that would reduce remittance???? What A dumb idea. You mean to tell me if someone status is change, they wouldn't still be sending back monies to help their families that they left behind>>>>
    • Jack Rafter (10/06/2013, 09:05) Like (5) Dislike (7) Reply
      @Well Saw, What's dumb is your inability to read and understand the article. Is all the money expats send home is to help family? Lots of money sent back is to build homes, businesses, savings, and prepare for their eventual return home, not knowing if they will be allowed to stay here. Give them belongership and they will bulid here.
    • Peng!! (10/06/2013, 12:11) Like (0) Dislike (17) Reply
      Ahmen to that sister.........poor logic!!! remember the Leader of the VIP used to say.....whatever is given can be taken back!!! with that though in mind do you thing expats will invest in the BVI.....I cant see this happening.
    • @ Well Sah (10/06/2013, 19:30) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      Not only is paid NDP commentators out of order, but extremely stupid, sounding like an old senile Dinasour
  • 1 (10/06/2013, 08:41) Like (2) Dislike (10) Reply
    a good suggestion Mr. Fraser but NDP lsitens to no one!!
  • What!! (10/06/2013, 08:56) Like (10) Dislike (2) Reply
    I have been all through the Caribbean and have never heard of such nonsense. The expats are most of them who are working here, only working for a small pittance doing jobs that a native don't want..these people struggle to make ends meet and have children to support at home...most of them eat less because of that...pay house rent and utilities also pay taxes and social security isn't that enough don't the people have to look out for they families back home also. What the hell do you'll want blood out of stone...most of you leave her and go to the USA where were you sending your money??
    • Please, Please (10/06/2013, 09:55) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
      @What, don't you think that if these expats were given belongership they would bring those same children they send money home for here with them? You morons just want to keep the poor people the way they are with silly senseless arguments.
    • Angry Birds (10/06/2013, 11:23) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Best point raised!!!
    • @ What!! (10/06/2013, 18:24) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I guarantee you are an idiot.
  • Observer (10/06/2013, 09:39) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Don't be so hard on the Minister, give him a little more credit because he has a (small) point and one that is worth examining. His suggestion will not prevent all remittances, and I don't think that he is suggesting that. However, for some expats, if after settling down in the territory for a number of years they could feel secure and "welcome", they would be inclined to bring their families here and invest in a home. But who would want to build a house in a country when they feel like they can be shipped out at any time for whatever reason? The argument for stopping people from sending money out of the country is not a well-thought out idea on so many levels. First, remittance in the BVI is a two-way activity; there are people here who receive money in this way from overseas. And is she saying that after an expat worker spends money here on rent, food, transportation, entertainment, clothes, etc. they should put the rest in the bank and forget about their families?
  • . (10/06/2013, 09:43) Like (4) Dislike (3) Reply
    The only way giving out status will stop people sending home money to their family is if they then send for their family and bring them here. More kids in the schools, more stress on the infrastructure, less jobs for locals who are here. You have got to be kidding me. Come better than that nuh!

    The most bone-headed idea ever!
  • Biggs (10/06/2013, 10:04) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply

    Lmao! What a crock of horse sh@#. Whats more funny is that his supporters against island ppl in everything but agreeing with this stupid idea. Its just votes he looking.

  • show time (10/06/2013, 10:14) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply

    How come no one taking about the NDP trying to run rings around the Immigration board to get people redients and belonger status even after the Board rejected some of the names…what a sell out of my country!!!

  • Local Expat (10/06/2013, 10:37) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Ok everyone wants to rape the Virgin islands. Bring everyone here man, bring your bad attitudes, your prejudices and other ills. some of you are good intented but the majority have bad attitudes, attitudes that are imported with the opportunity to work in the Virgin Islands. Fraser talking pure hog wash. The majority of expat people owning property here dont have belonger status, the long term residents from the eastern caribbean who own property made a conscious effort to earn land here, some while still on work permits, granting belonger status will not change anything in wether they send moneies home or not. Life ids real
    • Citizen (10/06/2013, 13:16) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      You want to explain how everyone want's to rape the Virgin Islands. All you people are hypocrets. You laugh and talk with these people, you marry their sons and daughters, some of you even have expat mothers or fathers, but yet you on here chatting crap.
  • ausar (10/06/2013, 12:34) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Hmmmmmmm...someone is trying to "shure up" votes for the next political season!
  • @@@@@ (10/06/2013, 12:45) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Fraser suggestion Seems reasonable.

  • wellsa (10/06/2013, 13:02) Like (1) Dislike (23) Reply

    I KEEP SAYING ITS THE OLD PEOPLE FRASER FOOLING OFF, THERE ARE MORE OLD PEOPLE THAN YOUNG PEOPLE ATTENDING TO HIS MEETINGS, HE THINK THE YOUNG AINT GOT THERE HEAD ON.................WHEN HIS PARTY HAD POWER HE NEVER HAVE MEETINGS LIKE THESE NOW HE WANT TO TELL US WHAT IN THE 3RD THAT HE TRIM OFF HIS HIGH TOP TO A LOW CUT.........STRUPES

    • Surveyor (11/06/2013, 07:52) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I have been following this blogger since the time Hon Fraser had his meeting on May 30th, and on every news site they have been consistently anti Fraser no matter the issue. They are making multiple posts on thesame story, and never is there any facts to support their position.

      CONCLUSION, ignore them. THIS ONE "welsa" is just a paid NDP blogger
  • Hmmmm (10/06/2013, 13:45) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I want some powder please.
  • witness (10/06/2013, 15:59) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    belonger status is not given to anyone it is lend to you because if someone give you some thing they dont look back for it.
    • x factor (10/06/2013, 19:35) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      What is happening is that blame must be put somewhere. So Senator Fraser is an easy scrape goat for the noted Smith Government failures
  • vvvvv (10/06/2013, 16:03) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Congratulations at last you have come to terms with yourself!
  • RedStorm (10/06/2013, 16:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I don't think his suggestion is bad, what it need is indepth explaination. We all can agree that given the expat status won't stop them from sending money home. Give all expat residency or belonger status won't create a frutiful economy but it will help, with the hope that they invest in the country. Most of the expat lived here more than twenty years. Most of them travel to and from their home country, and yest they make a lot of money in the construction field. The things is when there is four or five person working in a house and there is one house rent, they save alot. Most of them have business and homes in their countries, there are some who don't have nothing. So at the end of it all they have help this economy grow, they are people who are passionate for life, and they go after what they want.

    Right now if I should asked the Minister for an update of the amount of expat who has lived her for the past twenty years or so, I would hope he can refer to more than 30 person. Most of them have moved on, there is nothing more for them to stay here for, a little piece of paper won't make a difference, and like one blogger say, they could take it back. Leave the people alone and let them be. They have stayed her for twenty and thirty years and it really won't make much of a difference.
  • zoe (10/06/2013, 19:20) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    It is interesting to see that SOME OF YOU ndp BLOGGERS has no idea what is happening in THE bvi. Fraser made a good suggestion for a number of reasons and instead of standing up for his idea and the country you all just play old time politics. Unbelievable!
  • Local Expat (11/06/2013, 09:15) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    At CITIZEN: i know ur feeling me. Thet naked truth does something huh. FYI Both my parents are from down the caribbean St.Lucia and Grenada. That has nothing to do with what I see on a daily basis here in the freakin Virgin Islands.
  • Surveyor (11/06/2013, 20:29) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    @Local Expat, if you are telling the truth about your parents origin, then you are not a Virgin Islander. If Fraser who is a Virgin Islander feels that Expats should be given Belongership as a part of a National Strategy, who has the most to loose, you or him. As I see it, you are speaking through your a**.
  • simple (11/06/2013, 20:43) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
    Before givin expArt Belomgers what's about the innocent babe bein born and gettin so much problem think on that
  • ABC (13/06/2013, 15:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    OMG!!! All along I was of the impression that Fraser and Ronnie were the only two who B V Islanders could depend on to stand up for us. Now I am down to Ronnie alone and only God knows where he is. Please Fraser, are you for real? Fraser, more is much when it is in the hands of God, not foreigners. Yes KMARK want to double our population so that his Super market can survive but then tell that to your children and their children.
    I trust that we will one day wake up and smell the coffee.


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