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Fmr PS Willock takes on hostile BBC journalist in defence of VI Financial Services

- BBC World Service journalist Tom Hagler accused the VI of building Peebles Hospital with 'dirty money'
With the recent Panama Papers leak causing a shakeup in Governments across the globe and much negative attention being directed to the Virgin Islands and other financial services jurisdiction in the region, a private citizen has come out in strong defence of one the territory’s main economic pillars, even while Government and other stakeholders remain silent. Former Permanent Secretary under the Virgin Islands Party (VIP) Government, Julian Willock on April 5, 2016 took up an invitation by BBC Radio World Service to be interviewed regarding the financial services information leak and its implications for the Virgin Islands. The interview was aired around 11pm local time. Photo: VINO/Internet Source
The BBC journalist Tom Hagler Bhola accused the Virgin Islands of building the new Peebles Hospital with 'dirty money'. Photo: VINO/File
The BBC journalist Tom Hagler Bhola accused the Virgin Islands of building the new Peebles Hospital with 'dirty money'. Photo: VINO/File
A hostile BBC Radio host, Tom Hagler during the interview said the Financial Services industry in the VI was not transparent and that it was facilitating shell companies that allow investors to fund nuclear weapon programmes, including in North Korea. Former Permanent Secretary and news publisher Mr Julian Willock said residents in the VI are used to hearing what he would consider 'the unjustified attacks on the legitimate financial services sector,' and stated that the reality is that the [British] Virgin Islands is one of the most regulated financial services jurisdictions in the world. Photo: VINO/File
A hostile BBC Radio host, Tom Hagler during the interview said the Financial Services industry in the VI was not transparent and that it was facilitating shell companies that allow investors to fund nuclear weapon programmes, including in North Korea. Former Permanent Secretary and news publisher Mr Julian Willock said residents in the VI are used to hearing what he would consider 'the unjustified attacks on the legitimate financial services sector,' and stated that the reality is that the [British] Virgin Islands is one of the most regulated financial services jurisdictions in the world. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- With the recent Panama Papers leak causing a shakeup in Governments across the globe and much negative attention being directed to the Virgin Islands and other financial services jurisdiction in the region, a private citizen and publisher of Virgin Islands News Online has come out in strong defence of one the territory’s main economic pillars, even while Government and other stakeholders remain silent.

Former Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Communications and Works, Julian Willock on April 5, 2016 took up an invitation by BBC Radio World Service to be interviewed regarding the financial services information leak and its implications for the Virgin Islands. The interview was aired around 11pm local time.

The huge leak of confidential documents has revealed how the rich and powerful use tax havens to hide their wealth. Eleven million documents were leaked from one of the world's most secretive companies, Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca, which has an office in the Virgin Islands.

The leak has caused much uproar in countries across the world, including in the United Kingdom where a call has been made by parliamentarians for the UK to cut loose Overseas Territories considered tax havens.

Hagler’s unjustified accusations

A hostile BBC World Service journalist, Tom Hagler during the interview said the Financial Services industry in the VI was not transparent and that it was facilitating shell companies that allow investors to fund nuclear weapon programmes, including in North Korea.

Mr Hagler went as far as to say that the new Peebles Hospital was funded by ‘dirty money’ and it was inconceivable that a small territory as the Virgin Islands could afford such a hospital with legitimate money.

VI used to ‘unjustified attacks’ on legitimate FS

Although claiming that the interview was about the call for Overseas Territories such as the Virgin Islands to be given their independence in the wake of the Panama Papers leak, Mr Hagler at first wanted to know what the media were making of the Panama Papers leak and its link to the Virgin Islands.

Mr Willock said residents in the VI are used to hearing what he would consider “the unjustified attacks on the legitimate financial services sector,” and stated that the reality is that the [British] Virgin Islands is one of the most regulated financial services jurisdictions in the world.

At this Mr Hagler asked whether it was legitimate to have hundreds of thousands of shell companies, “some of whom avoid sanctions, siphoning that money back to nuclear weapons programmes” such as in North Korea.

“The BVI continues to cooperate with all of the international organisations, whether for the Organisation for Economic Development or with the Financial Action Task Force. We have been in the financial services sector for well over 30 years, and we have a good history of when we see or find areas of non-compliance that it is actively and seriously investigated,” Mr Willock responded.

Mr Hagler, seemingly getting agitated, asked for examples where companies found to be non-compliant were investigated, saying there must be “thousands and thousands of those cases there.”

Mr Willock said he didn’t want to call any company’s name, even though the interviewer insisted for just one name.

“What the international community needs to know is that the British Virgin Islands plays by the international rules in terms of having a transparent and well-regulated jurisdiction and it is a legitimate business,” Mr Willock stated.

“It’s clearly not transparent is it because clearly some of these companies are trying to hide away funds. You wonder why more of these companies are not being rejected by the British Virgin Islands,” Mr Hagler stated.

He then wanted to know if all the companies named in the Panama Papers were legal.

Indicating that he hasn’t seen all of the companies listed in the Panama Report, Mr Willock said what he knows in his capacity as a Virgin Islander, someone who was a former Permanent Secretary, now a publisher of a newspaper and who has also studied keenly the offshore financial sector, is that he can say without a doubt that the VI is serious about regulating its financial services sector.

$100M Peebles Hospital questioned

Keen on getting his opinion across that the VI has been doing illegitimate business in the financial services sector, Mr Hagler was bold enough to state that Peebles Hospital was built with ‘dirty money’.

“You have got a hundred million dollar hospital in the Virgin Islands. Where does the money come from? No one can seriously believe that’s clean money. Such a tiny island, thirty thousand people and it has got a hundred million dollar hospital on it…Don’t you want to ask a question and find out how such a tiny place gets so much of the world’s money,” Mr Hagler asked.

Refusing to be led or intimidated, a firm Mr Willock reiterated that the VI continues to operate by the rules and is well regulated.

Mr Hagler then asked whether the laws should be changed or toughend up.

“I will say that our laws, and our regulations, and our acts are tougher than places like Germany, are tougher than places like Paris, tougher than places like Delaware in the United States and are tougher than London where you are, and that is the reality, that we continue to play our role, lawful role, and have a legitimate business where we assist capital flows and facilitate direct foreign investments around the world,” Mr Willock stated before Mr Hagler interjected, saying they had run out of time.

Meanwhile, only Opposition Leader Hon Julian Fraser RA (R3) has spoken on the Panama Papers leak and its implications for the VI. Hon Fraser was highly critical of Premier Dr The Hon D. Orlando Smith’s slothfulness in responding to yet concerted another attack on the financial services industry by international journalists and organisations, who’s agenda it is to destroy the industry.

Listen to full BBC World Service interview with Mr Julian Willock 

http://www.virginislandsnewsonline.com/upload/resources/record20160405231308.mp3

67 Responses to “Fmr PS Willock takes on hostile BBC journalist in defence of VI Financial Services”

  • Just Sayin (06/04/2016, 17:36) Like (87) Dislike (8) Reply
    Clap clap clap clap to Mr Willock job well done
  • Xxx (06/04/2016, 17:40) Like (54) Dislike (16) Reply
    I listen to this interview on FB Willock should be given an OBE for doing this yall
    • Yes (07/04/2016, 08:54) Like (3) Dislike (18) Reply
      Do you know what an OBE is?
    • Yes (07/04/2016, 10:40) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
      OBE and you hear the man say he wants the UK to pull the plug on us??? The UK should honor Willock for standing up to them.....makes perfect sense eh? My god you people are dumb as rocks...Did he take a "firm stance" for his country? Certainly. I'm sure he didn't mind being smack dab in the center of this either...
      • @ lol (08/04/2016, 23:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        I like the interview and the light it shed on the role of the bvi in this sector
  • Panama Jack (06/04/2016, 17:42) Like (21) Dislike (4) Reply
    Willock interviewing to lead the country under direct rule! Just round the corner.
  • facts man (06/04/2016, 18:01) Like (53) Dislike (3) Reply
    Wow that man interviewing mr willock hates the bvi
  • we will fight.. (06/04/2016, 18:15) Like (64) Dislike (3) Reply

    Ok. Tell me how our social security funded hospital get into this fn racist, jealous and bias Mr. Hagler mouth. Thats their thinking.. ..Great Courage Mr. Willock. Respect.

  • OBE (06/04/2016, 18:16) Like (83) Dislike (20) Reply
    I second the motion Julian Willock, OBE
  • well done (06/04/2016, 18:17) Like (49) Dislike (4) Reply
    Well Done Mr. Wilock, you indeed made the VI proud,and let them know we have intelligent minds in this region.
  • Well Well (06/04/2016, 18:17) Like (46) Dislike (24) Reply
    should of tell him we don't understand how the hospital get there either, we just as baffle as him. Tell next time don't forget to ask bout the cruise pier too.
  • chad (06/04/2016, 18:18) Like (46) Dislike (9) Reply
    Thank you Julian Willock! It seems as though some of our elected representatives only want to attend conferences with their rich white friends on sargassum rather than deal with the real issues in the BVI.
    • If only (07/04/2016, 08:51) Like (3) Dislike (6) Reply
      Three I wish I could vote for next time, (i) the esteemed Willock, Myron and Fahie but it don't wuk so
  • hog city (06/04/2016, 18:34) Like (48) Dislike (12) Reply
    This man willock can respesent us anywhere ........time for him to replace fraser
  • Mountain Dove (06/04/2016, 18:45) Like (38) Dislike (1) Reply
    Way to stand your ground Mr Willock...it sounded like this dude was really getting into his feelings and cut you off when he realized how intelligent you are. Let him go to NANDO's and have a seat at the kiddies table
  • Emerging Leadership (06/04/2016, 19:10) Like (48) Dislike (1) Reply
    Our politicians are a bunch of cowards except for easily spending taxpayers’ money. I will suggest that they coordinate a taskforce of the BVI Media Journalists and form their PR team to tackle this situation. Willock, Job Well Done under pressure! Show them how it’s done, since they are all scrambling right now while Panama and other countries involved are defending themselves. Just like them, always Silent, hoping that the whole thing will just go away on it’s own. We are talking widespread international spotlight news here and not local politics where everything dies out after awhile because of inaction. These people will not stop until they get blood, even while fully regulated with all Ts’ crossed or not. Let’s Be Proactive.
  • Mark (06/04/2016, 19:31) Like (40) Dislike (2) Reply
    He handled himself well, job well done Willock.
    • DON Q (06/04/2016, 21:25) Like (85) Dislike (5) Reply
      not a fan of Wilcox but he came out the park hitting and is certainly Premier material
  • voter (06/04/2016, 19:36) Like (37) Dislike (3) Reply

    Kudos to Julian Willock for standing up and defending our Territory. Tom Hagler is a f***ing racist punk.

    What is really sad here is that Smith and all of his numerous highly paid heads of government agencies involved in the industry are all tongue-tied. Not a peep out of him or them. Here we have our most important pillars of the economy taking a massive broadside hit and after several days just an anonymous local government press release. Good God man get and defend the Territory! At least try to act like a leader!

  • Queen Mary (06/04/2016, 19:40) Like (32) Dislike (1) Reply

    Thank you Mr Willock!
    Mr Hagler, keenly revealed the heart of this matter when he made reference to the hospital. How can these people be doing so well without the assist ofcrumbs from the Queen..Resentment and feasr of progress by the oppressed is a nightmare for the oppressors,always.
    Thanks to the Divine for blessing us with the current Gov uner the leadership of Doc. This too shall pass. Just a wake up call and eye-opener for too many in this place still sleeping.

  • wize up (06/04/2016, 20:05) Like (30) Dislike (4) Reply
    the young man defened the honour of the territory with excellence: a great VI Lander and i hope some of the NDP coligues are given a copy of the tape.....i keep telling the young man he need to run for electorial office: his level of conversation during that interview was either NDP or VIP(great)....keep that chin up old-boy
  • Good Job Julian (06/04/2016, 20:20) Like (34) Dislike (0) Reply
    That was a good job Julian. You placed country above politics in that interview in coming to the defense of the Financial Sector, and that is commendable. That's what patriots do.

    Would it matter to those in the U.K. who a seeking to rein in the BVI financial sector, and even talking about instituting direct rule, I doubt because they have the ultimate say. Nevertheless, you did your part.

    It was also good that you explicitly stated the role from which you spoke as a private citizen so that no one concludes you were speaking for the government. Good for you.
  • Liat 521 (06/04/2016, 20:31) Like (15) Dislike (1) Reply
    The BV, should not have an image of fostering illicit activity among its potential customer base.


    The practice , is not illegal , simply because , its practitioners ( in high places ) have found it expedient , to not make it so
    Willock we need you in the house of congress
  • tretretrete (06/04/2016, 20:32) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
  • Only in the BVI (06/04/2016, 20:39) Like (12) Dislike (12) Reply
    Jullian Willock for PREMIER
    • Only in the BVI (07/04/2016, 05:34) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
      The man has more testicular fortitude then our elected representatives.....it appears that all of them gone into hiding because they are worried about there information being leaked as well
      • wize up (07/04/2016, 09:51) Like (12) Dislike (1) Reply
        Only in the BVI: it will be a good thing to expose some these guys; the school children saying that one of those elected on 8 june 2015 now have a private yacht.big questions; how these guys doing all of this extra business development on their monthly political salary.....
  • Political Observer (06/04/2016, 21:03) Like (27) Dislike (0) Reply
    Julian, superb job! VIP or NDP or PEP, all should be proud of Julian's interview with BBC, defending the VI financial services as one the strongest regulated locale.
  • Great Job (06/04/2016, 21:13) Like (22) Dislike (1) Reply
    man i am proud of you Mr, Willock
  • Diego Penn (06/04/2016, 21:56) Like (32) Dislike (7) Reply

    I am so proud of my classmate and friend Mr Julian Willock thanks for standing in the gap between our country and that racist jealous fool Hagler who think what we have work so hard for is in his and many others around the world minds to much for a little nation of Black people.. I was face with that same mentality when I work in the Customs Department 87 to 90 when they brought Bailey and Stewart here from England .

    • wize up (07/04/2016, 02:14) Like (35) Dislike (0) Reply
      @ Diego: this is the "Godfather" and i know what you mean: many years back a Governor came to this territory and almost catch a cow because the people of this territory owned 2 and 3 cars and owned thier own houses on the hillside: i listened keenly to the white boy's conversation with Mr Julian Willock and his issue was our 100 million dollar hospital becuse the territory just have a population of 30 thousand: in the mind of that white english boy; the BVI Hospital should be under a tent(but the devil is a liar)....here we have the PM of Iceland being cought doing the wrong things and all off a suden the BVI is a global villain.....the forefathers of this place held on and now the VI people can live comfortable lots of people out there have issues with little BVI because a nation of black people should not be doing so great(the devil been a liar for years)...situations like tells me we need to stop playing NDP this and VIP that and band together for the betterment of this VI: lots of them out there want to see this territory suffer so we need to stop fighting among ourselves!!!
      • The Nerve (07/04/2016, 06:00) Like (19) Dislike (0) Reply
        To Godfather- You're sooo right about the mindset of some of these people. I live on one of the hills in our bvi where these tourist buses frequent at times. Some of the tourist one day saw me in my garden and ask if they can come in to view the scenery of the ocean and surrounding islands from my property. You know these people had the nerve to ask me, “Where’s the owner of the house and property?” I told them I had to get back to work and escort them back out. They live in these develop countries and having it so hard to survive, and they come here and probably thinking we are not suppose to be living like how we do. The nerve of some of these people!
        • wize up (07/04/2016, 14:04) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
          @ the nerve: i live and own my own property at Belmont Estate for 35 years and most of the white folks thinks that i am the Gardner for the property; i have grown to understand where these white folks are from people of color dont own nothing so it blows their minds to see US in BVI are property owners; so keep the faith and simple keep smiling and ever lower your standards...
      • trrefdrfds (07/04/2016, 11:13) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
        Man tell we who you is so we could vote for you. You seem to be a person with sense this the kind of leadership and mind set we need in the office.
      • trrefdrfds (07/04/2016, 13:34) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
        we really need to stop fighting among each other and start coming together......................
  • Trinidad (06/04/2016, 22:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply

    Trinidad Express News Today:

    http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160406/news/spies-and-shadowy-allies-lurk-in-secret-thanks-to-firms-bag-of-tricks


    • voter (06/04/2016, 23:12) Like (8) Dislike (1) Reply
      Sounds like MF was just taking money and signing papers to whomsoever turned up on their doorstep. Whatever the hell happened to due diligence? Now they have us drawn into their mess. Can we have a response from our Premier? Please?
      • seriously now (07/04/2016, 12:05) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
        Sounds like you are the type of person who believes everything he reads in the international media. You probably still waiting for the weapons of mass destruction to turn up! These people have another agenda, wake up and smell the coffee. MF has a good reputation.
  • Ailey (06/04/2016, 22:31) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
    Bhola need to eat a sandbox seed then get a bitch slap.
  • Youthdem (06/04/2016, 22:57) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
    Thank you Mr.Willock. Nicely said.
  • New releases (06/04/2016, 22:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply

    What's happening on this issue around the world by the hour:

    http://www.wistv.com/story/31653910/the-latest-panama-to-create-panel-to-boost-transparency

    • Boo (07/04/2016, 07:24) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
      And still nothing out of the BVI and all of our highly paid industry government officials smh
  • Pissed the hell off (06/04/2016, 23:32) Like (16) Dislike (0) Reply
    This Mr. Bhola is very rude and unprofessional, the audacity of this buffoon implementing that we to small of a country to be prospering. Perhaps some of our leaders should attend the Offshore Alert conference in Miami next moth where the director of the ICIJ will be speaking of the Panama papers and defend our country. Grow some balls and be a leader of your country. When they (UK) left us here many years ago they said here was nothing but a bird sanctuary and nothing can't service here, now that we are prospering them talking bull$hit. Cart your ass you little Willie Wanka.
  • Yes (07/04/2016, 00:34) Like (19) Dislike (3) Reply
    Myrun will be jealous of you now mr willock.
    • wize up (07/04/2016, 06:22) Like (10) Dislike (2) Reply
      @ LOL: jealous is joke....Mr Willock had the opportunity to play poltics during that interview but he defended the territory without one political motive
    • @ lol (07/04/2016, 07:05) Like (9) Dislike (3) Reply
      myrun is not is Mr. Willock's shoes the interview is yet another example
  • ..... (07/04/2016, 02:13) Like (15) Dislike (2) Reply
    Wilock sometimes you go to far but brother man let me tell you I respect you...fantastic job... This was phenomenal

    Who the h*ll is them dirty racist nasty English people like the bvi don't make money... Seriously.. Why he mad tho?? Bloody wanker!!!
  • oh boy! (07/04/2016, 05:26) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply

    This panama leak is causing devastating implications wide and far all around the world- Link below:

    http://allafrica.com/stories/201604070075.html
  • de silent one (07/04/2016, 06:01) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply

    Mr Willock is not one of my favorite person, but I applaud you for standing up to that sounded like bully Mr Hagler. His interview sounded very prejudicial as he referred to us as such a tiny Island. Its seems like we are too small to have something of a high standard. There need to more of that type of representation not just on behalf of the Government, but for the country and all its residents. KUDOS to you Willock.

  • oh boy! (07/04/2016, 06:15) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    More sweeping implications. This time in Malaysia.
    http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2016/04/07/pua-critics-of-1mdb-were-right-all-along/
  • Charley Rose (07/04/2016, 06:19) Like (9) Dislike (2) Reply

    Mr Willock did an excellent job. That is good ambassadorial job. However, he should have told Mr hagler that the government borrowed money from the Social Security Board to finance the hospital. The call for direct rule over the territory should not be taken lightly by the government. The Premier should be proactive like Mr Hughes from Anguilla and hold a massive demonstration in Road Town in front of the Governor house and send a clear message to the British government that we WILL NOT accept direct rule in the Virgin Islands. That will lead us to servitude.

    • think (07/04/2016, 08:38) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
      MR WILLOCK I guess the people of the BVI can clearly read that you are capable to stand up under pressure from left and right .I see that our people we put in to represent us gone to sleep on this topic. Where is ball head who always in the news with some thing.
    • streets (07/04/2016, 21:55) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      It's time for us to get to the streets for real. We need to send a message to the UK, that if we perish we perish, but we are not going to allow no direct rule on us. This thing is serious.
  • Mayday! Mayday! (07/04/2016, 06:35) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    How do our public leaders plan to handle this widespread disaster with the BVI name caught right up in it?

    http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/1.2622632
  • 2019 (07/04/2016, 07:05) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    run Willock Run we got you !
  • @ the nerve (07/04/2016, 08:30) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    we had some people drive up to a very private house, and start taking pictures of us, saying they were "just looking
    around". as if it were a public display and thoroughfare. someone is sending people to the BVI to scout everyone
    out and act as if everyone's privacy at home, is these foreigners business! you have to see it to believe it. maybe
    their passports should be scrutinized or recorded with a red flag, cause some of this is NOT regular tourists. It
    smells of something else. As far as Hagler, he's a stooge for a bigger purpose who also conveniently is an arrogant
    jealous lowlife. Yeah he doesn't like seeing people having something in life.
  • farmer brown (07/04/2016, 09:03) Like (9) Dislike (4) Reply
    Julian Willock our hero
  • cash cow (07/04/2016, 10:30) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    Willock tried but was thoroughly man handled by that "fruity" sounding guy....." A" for effort though. He's in no position of authority but I guess as Journalist to Journalist he did his civic duty (And also became relevant again)....If UK ever cuts our umbilical cord, the Virgin Islands is DEAD....
  • JJW (07/04/2016, 10:33) Like (1) Dislike (6) Reply
    I third the motion Julian Willock, OBE
    I third the motion Julian Willock, OBE
    I thirdthe motion Julian Willock, OBE
    I third the motion Julian Willock, OBE
    I third the motion Julian Willock, OBE
    I third the motion Julian Willock, OBE
    I third the motion Julian Willock, OBE
  • 1 question (07/04/2016, 13:16) Like (9) Dislike (2) Reply
    That was a rough interview could we have send Marlon, Alvera, Mitch, Deloris, Dr. Smith and the likes up against that rude and hostile reporter?. Think about it people seriously.
  • Memories (07/04/2016, 14:02) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    I remember my history teacher said some of the slaves never realized that UNITY is strength. That's why some of them allowed their brothers and sisters to be killed. Yes, we must never forget that as a people we are stronger, and focus our energies and being a stronger nation. Instead of fighting one another.

  • W*F (07/04/2016, 15:30) Like (4) Dislike (4) Reply
    Julian Willock for Premier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • a resident (07/04/2016, 15:39) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I might hire Willock about a certain bank here that is coincidentally also headquartered in Toronto Canada.
    They are 'requiring' information about personal matters that are none of that banks business. Even if relatives
    got money when another relative died. And none of them have anything to do with this bank anyway. They just
    want to know every little thing about the customer who after just a year - closed the account. The Presidents office
    in Toronto says they did no wrong, but the details are quite numerous. There is some kind of crap eminating from
    Toronto that is both arrogant and destructive. Hope they're reduced to Canadian bacon.
    • @ a resident (08/04/2016, 23:27) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You are damn if you do and damn if you don't... Please yourself
  • dd (07/04/2016, 17:20) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    I am happy with his interview
  • foxy (14/04/2016, 22:07) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Good job!


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