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‘Don’t allow foreign citizens to come & vote’ – caller

- said on Speak Out BVI talk show that persons holding citizenship in other countries should be prohibited from voting in the VI
A caller into last night’s June 16, 2015 Speak Out BVI talk show aired on ZBVI radio 780 AM suggested that persons should not be able to return to the Virgin Islands to vote if the hold citizenship in another country. Photo: VINO
Host of the show Doug Wheatley said that this is something of concern not only in the VI but also around the region and further afield. Photo: VINO/File
Host of the show Doug Wheatley said that this is something of concern not only in the VI but also around the region and further afield. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – A caller into last night’s June 16, 2015 Speak Out BVI talk show aired on ZBVI radio 780 AM suggested that persons should not be able to return to the Virgin Islands to vote if they hold citizenship in another country.

“Why are people who sell out their country coming back and vote?” the caller asked. “They done naturalised and gone and they come from all over the States, they come from St Thomas all over and vote again and they are naturalised…that ain’t right,” she said.

Host of the show Doug Wheatley said that this is something of concern not only in the VI but also around the region and further afield.

“We know for example down in the eastern Caribbean when you have boatloads and planeloads of people coming from the United States and the US Virgin Islands etc. It has created some difficulties in some of those countries,” he said.

Wheatley noted that persons in St Kitts complained that persons living in the United States come home and vote and influence the pattern of Government there and then they go back to the United States for another three years.

“Some persons do not think that this is fair but it is something that we might consider,” said host Wheatley.

Wheatley’s show dealt with a number of topics, chief among them was the just concluded elections and matters connected thereto.

31 Responses to “‘Don’t allow foreign citizens to come & vote’ – caller”

  • Kingfish (17/06/2015, 08:20) Like (8) Dislike (19) Reply
    Is Fraser a US citizen or not any one has the answer ?
    • @ Kingfish (17/06/2015, 09:11) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
      No he is not bam
    • Justice.! (17/06/2015, 09:29) Like (15) Dislike (2) Reply
      @Kingfish, the problem is not really about citizenship. Mr Frazer has returned to his home country and have been here for more than 25 years. I am sure the moneys he contributed to taxes, social security, electricity, traffic department, gas stations, cable and telecommunications must be in the thousands upon thousands. Because he
      lives here, he knows the issues, the hardships; about folks loosing their homes to the bank, businesses closing down, people loosing their jobs, the high cost of living, bad roads and everything else.

      To have the right to vote it should be stipulated for example, that one needs to have visited the country at least 2 times within the past 4 years or lived in the country for 3 weeks within the previous year of an election. The reason being, that they should have had enough time to be familiar with the issues and conditions in the country, thus being capable of making an informed decision.

      It is unfair for folks who choose to live elsewhere, because of the more progressive and prosperous conditions of
      another country, then return to their homeland on the eve of an election, because they got a free trip and perhaps a hotel room for a few days and spending money.

      A family member with a traveling buddy, both American citizens were here during the election and wanted to understand something about our politics. Whereas in the US one is usually aligned with one of the two parties, Democrat or Republican with different beliefs and philosophies, they wanted to know of how do we make our choices; what is the basis. Of course, wanting to sound a little sophisticated i paused and thought a bit, hoping to find some plausible differences between the two more organized parties. In the end, I suggested that they are
      in my opinion somewhat similar to the Republicans and the Democrats in the US; Both catering mostly to one or the other group of persons...
      • @justice (17/06/2015, 19:53) Like (14) Dislike (2) Reply
        Stop talkin for yourself fool.... Hellllllloh. 16yrs in government all u did was put up Street lights around da roundabout and bi water.
    • Nice (17/06/2015, 15:09) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
      Yes he is. If you go to SJU on a flight with him, you will see which lie he goes in.
  • I agree (17/06/2015, 08:29) Like (39) Dislike (9) Reply
    The right to vote should be taken away from any citizen residing overseas. It is unfair to us who have to put up with the system in which we live, such as health care, education, environmental, and other factors. We pay our payroll taxes and contribute to our social security plus we support the local businesses because we MUST live in it. People come from abroad, only to vote for their friends and family, and before the votes are counted, they return to their tranquil places of abode where, when they get sick, they don't need Peebles and their kids don't need our education system. I think is it high time that this segment of the law (or constitution) is done away with. The People who do not live here do not suffer the consequences of their own decisions.
    • tretretrete (17/06/2015, 09:04) Like (22) Dislike (2) Reply
      so what about the people that live here that's not born here? they do all the same things as locals
      • rewrsdffds (17/06/2015, 10:41) Like (10) Dislike (69) Reply
        if your mother isn't born Tortola, you should not have the right to vote and that is the bottom line! too many island people and their "born here" children causing havoc in our elections.
        • Observer (17/06/2015, 11:02) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
          This is just unbridled prejudice. If they have a right to vote it matters not if one of their parents not "born here"
        • @ok (17/06/2015, 11:07) Like (21) Dislike (2) Reply
          You sound ignorant
        • Discrimination (17/06/2015, 11:23) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
          You are a racist bigot. What in god's name your mother being from Tortola has to do with it. Small minded people
        • Sick (17/06/2015, 12:51) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
          WHERE IS YOUR FAMILY FROM? THATS THE PROBLEM, GOD PUT YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER ALONE ON TORTOLA. THEY ARE THE ADAM AND EVE FOR HERE THATS WHY TORTOLA IS SO CORRUPT.
        • Hmm (17/06/2015, 15:44) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
          @ok And yet the " pure blood" tortola people are not the ones that want to live and work on this island most of them if giving the chance don't come back but yet "we" should not give that right because of the island our mothers are from !! BS!!!
    • overseas (17/06/2015, 09:53) Like (9) Dislike (5) Reply
      We belong to the bvi. When it is being affected we are affected. Navel string and heritage buried there.
  • HeHe (17/06/2015, 08:53) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
    well said ok in that statement lot of us have a big problem ahead of us
  • Paying Taxes (17/06/2015, 09:54) Like (5) Dislike (3) Reply
    Maybe the laws of the country need to be changed. Anyone who is voting in this country need to be paying taxes. They should be here for at least one year before they can vote during a general election. Just like the USA is cracking down on everyone with green cards. They now have to move to the USA to pay taxes or they have to give it up.
  • yes (17/06/2015, 09:59) Like (8) Dislike (7) Reply
    Well i was born in the BVI, BUT! I live overseas, i feel i have a right to come home and vote, which i come in summer, winter, and so on. you cant please everyone in this place, please take it to the throne in prayer. When Honourable minister was doing it no one cry................D3
    • Ba she'll (17/06/2015, 20:47) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      If you are not living in the bvi or any country for that mater for at lease 6 months you should never be able to vote full stop.
  • Related issue (17/06/2015, 10:22) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
    The other issue related to this is that people from sister islands who move to Tortola stay registered in the sister islands, or in their original district and return there to vote, instead of voting in the district in which they reside. Since relatively few votes are cast in total, this can really affect the outcome in smaller districts.
  • zoe (17/06/2015, 10:27) Like (4) Dislike (3) Reply
    This is a none issue
  • Flip The Coin (17/06/2015, 12:58) Like (8) Dislike (1) Reply
    If you use this argument then you should agree that people who reside in the BVI should have the right to vote irregardless of where they are from, naturalized or not, as long as the are paying taxes and social security, and utilize services like health care, schools etc.
  • Tis Me (17/06/2015, 13:14) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Unlike others who come annually or during election, I come home every month. Sometimes more than once a month. I own property, pay taxes, electricity, cable and strong supporter of the bvi economy. I do go to St. Thomas to shop nor even bring in anything because I believe in supporting the local economy. My vote is sacred and value the importance and opportunity to do so.
  • wize up (17/06/2015, 14:55) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    its traditional for citizens of a given country to return their native land and vote: we have persons residing in BVI that return to their native land and cast their vote and I don't think that such practice is unlawful... I personal think if one does not reside in a given country such person should not be allowed to vote because they do understand the hardships or happiness the residents goes through just before an election: these come from outside cast a vote and them leave those of living here to suffer or enjoy a given administration; its a legal issues....
  • what (17/06/2015, 15:56) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    yall sound like a bunch of idiotic fols under here, if what half of you are proposing were to go through then almost more than half of the BVI population would be unable to vote. Just shut up.
  • Mike Rotch (17/06/2015, 16:45) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    They have the right & the right shouldn't be taken from then, but they should know not to come and vote and affect the local population's lives and then leave. Also not living in the country that you are voting in means you aren't truly aware of the atmosphere and day to day issues. Even further your model of governance and achievement is tainted by the realities of where you actually live. And the social context and aspects of the election decisions are lost. The principles of USA health Care & immigration (eg) are not the same here. So I agree that there could be some provisions made such as time spent within a time period or something. We all saw ppl we haven't seen in donkey yrs show up to vote in the election b/c they got a free expense paid vacation to come home.
  • U know (17/06/2015, 17:41) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    We as citizens are allowed dual citizenship and therefore we have the right to vote here and wherever else we have the right to do so ,the problem is not who vote but why are we voting what do we know about the party or the candidates that we are voting for ,how much of the issues that that is going on in our country are we up to date with ,are we really aware of what is going on with our education system ? ,are we really aware of what is going on with our medical system ? Do u really believe that the party that you are voting for is doing the best for the people of these beautiful Virgin Islands ?do u really think that the candidates or the party that you have voted for is doing the best or are willing and is going to do the best possible for our young people of these beautiful Virgin Islands ,because remember the young people are the future of our country and if we do not prepare them for the road ahead we are good as doomed we must protect our youths ,we cannot allow politicians to take advantage of our people because they are your friends or family and one of the way that we protect our youth is to teach them right from wrong and let them know that it is an insult to allow someone to buy the only right that u may ever have the right to vote .what about our older generation the people who carried us through thick and thin the people who were our role models in these beautiful Virgin Islands ,who were denied the right to a descent old folks home where they could have lived the rest of their lives and appreciate something good from all the sacrifice that they made for all of us ,to hear that it was not a priority but yet the same elderly people were a priority to put some of the candidates or party back into power ,these are some of the issues that we should be looking into because at the end of the day we all matters we are the ones that keeps this country afloat the big companies enjoy all the incentives and we the poor individuals pay for them
  • Son of Scary Mary (17/06/2015, 22:33) Like (13) Dislike (0) Reply
    For the last three years, I have lived in the U.S. because I am going to school there. Is anyone really suggesting that I shouldn't have been allowed to vote (for my first time) in our recent election? Wow!

    More than half of the people who live and work in the BVI, contribute to society in all kinds of ways and who pay taxes and social security here, have no right to vote at all. We call them non-belongers, dung islanders, yardies rich white folks and so forth. We use these references when we are being polite. There are many other labels used that are unprintable. These people make up the majority of the workforce and indeed our total population. They have no representation at all and many of us (for whatever reason) think that's right. Some of these people have lived here and worked here longer than I have been alive!

    Some of you wish to take away the right to vote from all students living abroad, all those who are legitimate Virgin Islanders who currently live abroad, anyone whose mother wasn't born here and you support the notion that more than half of our workforce should remain without representation and should never have the right to vote.

    The exclusionary, oppressive and xenophobic self-centeredness demonstrated in this blog is really sad. The only way true democracy works is if ALL people are represented. That includes me, my cousin (who had to leave the BVI to get a job in his chosen field) and some of our tennants who have lived here for as long as I can remember and whom I refer to as Auntie or Uncle.

    The BVI is way behind the times. Exclusionary practices permeate all levels of our society and for exactly this reason, we will never truly be happy. We will never enjoy harmony in our society. Our small minded ways will carry on as always and some of us will forever be looking over our neighbour's fences and complaining that they have more than us.

    For those who insist upon dwelling in your own little xenophobic state of mind, all I have to say is you really need to travel a bit. Broaden your horizons, your minds and your attitudes towards foreign citizens, foreigners and who you for. Some of you are sickening now.

    I voted and made sure my voice was recorded. I will always fight for my right to vote (regardless of where I might live in the future) so you all need to get over yourselves.
  • jus shut up (18/06/2015, 05:46) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    You people of the bvi is jus as bad as those that come from over seas to vote because you register in more than one district so you vote in more than one district to get rid of the ministers you all did it with Omar hodge and you did it this year the head of election need to go over each list to make sure your name is not register more than once.
  • Huu (18/06/2015, 07:08) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
    Got tell Fraser that and you will be enemy for sure.


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