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David Morris: People do not talk to & …do not trust the Police!

Now Acting Police Commissioner David Morris told the 2012 SFC at the RVIPF presentation that people do not trust the police, as there were issues regarding confidentiality in terms of trust and recognising when the public calls, the information was for policing purposes only.
Minister for Communications and Works Mark Vanterpool made it clear that the government is supporting the police and give them whatever they needed, but there were concerns when the RVIPF got it, if the government was confident that the resources would be utilized well enough, quickly enough, efficient enough with certain special delivery channels to make it happen.
Minister for Communications and Works Mark Vanterpool made it clear that the government is supporting the police and give them whatever they needed, but there were concerns when the RVIPF got it, if the government was confident that the resources would be utilized well enough, quickly enough, efficient enough with certain special delivery channels to make it happen.
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI - The Royal Virgin Islands Police Force (RVIPF) making their presentation before the 2012 Standing Finance Committee (SFC), saw Members raising concerns about Police effectiveness, funding and issues of vacancies.

During a question posed by Territorial At Large member Archibald C. Christian about Crime-Stoppers and the payment of reward, then Deputy Police Commissioner David Morris responded that the Crime-Stoppers programme was launched approximately one year ago and was not funded.

Morris, a UK officer now the Acting Police Commissioner following the pre-retirement leave of Reynell Frazer, told the SFC that Crime-Stoppers was not a Police initiative, but was deliberately created through a separate Board with no reward schemes being paid for because it was never funded for reward. Public does not trust Police, issues of confidentiality

The then Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCOP) told the body that he “recognized that people do not talk to the police and maybe do not trust the police,” but there were also other issues in terms of fear for their own safety, fear of going to court and having to give evidence, if people come forward officially.

Mr. Morris further told the SFC appointed to examine the 2012 Draft Estimates that the Police got information, the same information through intelligence services, police officers and other sources that were followed up, but that does not necessarily mean that it would result in evidence whereby the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) would prosecute individuals because the Police needed evidence to prosecute. The DPC stated that they knew a lot of what was going on, but there is a difference between knowing what was going on and obtaining the evidence.

The DCOP also told the SFC that there were issues in the Force regarding confidentiality in terms of trust and recognizing when the public calls, the information was for policing purposes only.

He recognized that there were cultural work and discipline issues that needed to be overcome and stated that there were issues of trust in terms of reporting things to the police and protection of witnesses coming forward.

The now Acting Police Commissioner told the body that one of the biggest issues discussed at community meetings was both trust and building that trust and confidence in the force. He stated that the Police Force needed to recognize that they needed to be stronger in their engagement.

Meanwhile, Minister for Communications and Works Mark Vanterpool enquired that, if it was understood that Government may be willing to give the RVIPF whatever was needed, but when they got it, he did not know how confident the Government would be that the resources would be utilized well enough, quickly enough, efficiently enough with certain special delivery channels to make it happen.

Minister Vanterpool told the Committee that the House of Assembly (HOA) needed assurance that there would be special efforts made to ensure that the rise of crime would be first stopped, a serious reduction would be evident over the next several years and that a special effort toward proactive preventative measures would be put in place to prevent crime.

The fourth district representative said the SFC under the leadership of the Ministry of Finance would be willing to suggest that if then Commissioner of Police Frazer could have assured that crime would be seriously tackled in the next 12 to 48 months and gave a serious programme of how that would be done while fostering the HOA’s comfort level that something very dramatic would happen, then all 13 Members of the HOA along with the Speaker’s prodding would ensure that something serious happened in terms of providing the resources.

22 Responses to “David Morris: People do not talk to & …do not trust the Police!”

  • Well Sah (02/04/2012, 13:38) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Reasons why not to talk/trust the police A) the investigating officers being put to investigate family members and family friends and getting them off B) Too damn lazy/don't care C) Power Hungry and rude even to victims and feel that they can control everyone D) A lot of the police breaking the laws that they are suppose to enforce E) Can't even catch them damn theif who always robbin businesses on Main Street F) Charging people with the wrong charge
    • car jack (02/04/2012, 21:11) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      oh plzz lawd dem bad but dem do get one or two tings right jah.....gim um ah lil lil break!
  • the people (02/04/2012, 13:41) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    And we do not trust morris either
  • ausar (02/04/2012, 13:46) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I want to congratulate the Commish for his statments because I know of a few snails who crawl out from their shells 20,000 leagues beneath the sea in the dead of night to dry land to meet in caves around these islands with other snails, pharisees, sanhedrins and scribes to discuss the criminal "happenings" of these islands. Never can it be known who these snails are or what is discussed. In many cases, issues relating to crime, extortion and corruption is discussed. But for fear of these snails being crushed and dying in the prosess, they meet ever so often, send messages on the ant's backs and head back to the seas awaiting patiently for the ants to deliver the messages. Sadly, it is in this manner, many persons have to deal with the issue of crimes fearing for their lives and the lives of their families. When and if, this process of "news delivery" will change is left to be seen.
    • HuH? (02/04/2012, 22:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      WHAT???? After reading your comment I even forgot what the article was about.
  • Policing 101 (02/04/2012, 14:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    In speaking with several members of the RVIPF about the new trends in crime as well as the tried and true types of crime it seems that nothing will ever be done to stop the criminals. The RVIPF may know who is up to no good but they are not willing to do anything to catch the criminals in the act. They use the excuse that they people are not working with them, yet, when they have been given first hand knowledge of who, when and where is committing these criminal acts they fail to act. I hope that the officers we spoke to are naive and haven't a clue about policing and laws in the BVI (although that is not what we want) because it seems we as a country are prohibited in using basic police tactics such as sting operations to catch known criminals in the act. Please explain to me how when are main crimes are the sale of crack and cocaine on our streets and home burglaries that the police cannot use undercover officers to buy/sell these items from the criminals and catch them in the act? Is that not policing 101?
  • Brap (02/04/2012, 14:10) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Let me tell you why Mr. Morris: 1. They talk revealing investigative matters and even tips 2. They take bribes 3. And because they behave like Quasigods or use excessive force to their own advantage or just because they can. I'm not saying all of them, but some of them are just criminals of the law. I simply have no trust in our enforcement agency.
    • hazzra (03/04/2012, 00:39) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Quasi-Gods you say but the finger is also pointing at you whoever you are. You allege they "wholly" take bribes. Where is your evidence and you as a GOOD citizen have not found throughout nobody in authority to carry your evidence to? Something wrong somewhere you! To whom do these officers use excessive force against and what a reasonable person like yourself think would cause the police to have to resort to excessive force. Then again I have not heard nor seen any news article which reports the Police broke a suspect hand or leg, black and blue a suspects' eye (s) or crack open any suspects head . These I know are examples of excessive force and they just don't happen here in the B.V.I. So please stop your ridiculous post.
  • mother hen (02/04/2012, 14:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Yeap you are right morris we aint trust ayo and we not telling ayo ah ting
    • Oh yeh (02/04/2012, 22:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      If and when you become a victim or it hits "home" you will want to spill your guts but it will be too late. You will have no info for that report but you will want others to speak, hopfuly the dont share your ideas on the topica and are willing to help.
    • miss (02/04/2012, 23:45) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      see we miss Frazer already mehson
  • QICK SAND (02/04/2012, 14:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    he just got dey and calling down the police already??? how he expect them to work with he? gimme ah break David
  • tell the truth (02/04/2012, 19:37) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Mr morris you got your work cut out for you!
  • A bit of advice (02/04/2012, 22:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Dear Mr. Morris I am an ordinary citizen but with lots of experience and have watched people fell and people who have made it. Look around you and see that you speak the most - every day newspaper, you on it. Why is the Commissioner of Customs not speaking so much, why is the DPP not speaking so much, what about the new Attorney General? And judges and magistrates. Even the Governor. Only politicians talk all the time. Be careful. These islands can make you or break you. My suggestion to you is do your work and let the people judge you. You have a public relations or press officer - let them do the talking. Looking at you, you talk too much. Look at those who are well educated. They talk when it calls for talking. The press can make you and break you. You saw the past commisioner. He was never in the limelight like you. Be careful or you may be setting yourself to failure.
  • x factor (02/04/2012, 23:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    so why he got to tell we people that we do not trust the police? Will he going public make we trust them more eh?
  • Confucius (03/04/2012, 10:18) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Let me first say that I am a major supporter of the RVIPF and I DO trust them! I would not hesitate to report a crime if I were in a position to help. Although I was not part of the discussion, I was recently in the proximity of several people discussing an incident involving two young men (whom I happen to know) and both had been wrongfully harassed by police officers in regards to their LEGAL scooters. A particular officer (who shall remain nameless for the purposes of this post) told one of the young men (who when asked, had produced his license, insurance and ownership documents) that he could still take his bike. It is this sort of overbearing ABUSE OF POWER that makes people distrust the police in the first place! The young man had done nothing wrong, he had all his documents, he was riding with a helmet, he was respectful to the officer ~ yet the officer was threatening to take his bike away! WHY? If the police hope to enjoy a working relationship with the public (and specifically the young people of our territory) a certain amount of respect is owed to both the officers AND the public ~ and that includes teenagers! You have your work cut out for you Mr. Morris. I hope whomever the new Chief will be can whip the force into shape and weed out the bad seeds. I had an experience with the exact same police officer many years ago and he treated me badly as well. If officers hope to be respected, they should treat all of us respectfully too!
  • timeline (03/04/2012, 13:11) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    IS YOU THEY DO NOT TRUST
  • FACTS (03/04/2012, 15:38) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    LACK OF TRUST FOR TEH POLICE = MORE CRIME
  • Trend setter (03/04/2012, 15:49) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Why should we trust the police? When they themselves , sometimes lie, cheat, steal, etc: and the police seem so corrupt to me, so how do you want people to talk to you and trust you guys????? Every arrest the police makes are from hear say they don't investigate crimes!
  • --------------------------- (03/04/2012, 17:50) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    so he finally got the job he came to the BVI hope its all what he thought
  • concern (04/04/2012, 09:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    we dont have no proper law in da bvi in terms of police weh as dey broke da same laws as we da people but dey wont see it dat way. dey dont kno how to talk to citizen so image how dey talk to der kids if dey have any. shame on dey all. i hope dey replace frazer with a bvi local officer instead of da uk officer.


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