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Caller: If you do not like it here, go home!

- Female caller tells public on TV talk show, ‘Speak Your Mind’
A caller to the TV talk Show 'Speak Your Mind' told the show's audience as it relates to expat workers "if they do not like it here, go home".
 Courtney De castro (right) is the host of the sometimes controversial show 'Speak Your Mind' aired every Saturday at 7:30 p.m. on JTV Channel 55. Many callers always voice their views on may topical issues. His co-host is Julio Sam Henry (left).
Courtney De castro (right) is the host of the sometimes controversial show 'Speak Your Mind' aired every Saturday at 7:30 p.m. on JTV Channel 55. Many callers always voice their views on may topical issues. His co-host is Julio Sam Henry (left).
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI - A female caller to the television talk show, ‘Speak Your Mind’ aired on JTV Channel 55 hosted by Courtney de Castro with co-host Julio Sam Henry, told the show’s audience, if expatriate persons living and working in the Virgin Islands, “do not like it here, they should go home”.

She was at the time calling the show via telephone which was aired on Saturday March 17, 2012.

The caller claimed on national television that she had an unfortunate experience at Peebles hospital, where she allegedly heard some nurses who she claimed were expatriates “talking down the BVI”. The caller claimed that, “one of the nurses was saying they cannot wait to get her pension to leave the BVI.”

When Virgin Islands News Online contacted the Director of Hospital Services Mrs. Cedorene Malone-Smith, she said all official complaints that are made to the Peebles Hospital are reviewed, investigated and addressed.

“There is a Complaints Process that has been implemented and in our quest to improve our quality of delivery of care to our community, we continue to make ourselves available to address the concerns of our clients. We urge persons to contact us with any issues they may have, and give us the opportunity to find a resolution,” Mrs. Malone-Smith stated.

The caller made it clear that she has nothing against people from other islands but according to her, “they must respect the BVI and its people and our polices…and if they do not like it here they should leave”. The caller said on the TV talk show that she is married to an expatriate, however, “he is very respectful to her and the BVI.”

The female caller further stated that she was “not saying that they should not come here but they must respect BVI people, our laws, our procedures etc.”

Co-host of ‘Speak Your Mind’ Mr. Henry asked the caller if she knew young persons who were interested in nursing and challenged her to go to the Ministry of Health with the names. The caller claimed that she knows of “many young Virgin Islanders interest in nursing and jobs”.

Meanwhile, Mr. Henry also told the show’s audience that he himself had an experience with an expatriate disrespecting the Virgin Islands. He reported that he was in a Money Gram line recently, when he heard someone said, “I can’t wait until my house is finished, so I can leave the BVI….to go home.” Henry said he heard it live for himself.

In recent years, there have been some tensions rising between local Virgin Islanders and expatriates from the other Caribbean Islands, North America and Europe who are here on work permits. There is the perception that locals are being discriminated against in both the public and private sectors, as it relates to employment, top jobs, promotions and other opportunities. There is also the perception that local Virgin Islanders are not getting fair treatment from the judicial system.

However, no one has brought forward statistics to prove or disprove this wide spread perception amongst indigenous Virgin Islanders. Currently, indigenous Virgin Islanders are a minority, both in the population and in the workforce.

In many constitutions around the world, there are certain provisions inserted to protect the minority indigenous population. The Virgin Islands does not have such a provision in its latest 2007 Constitution.

121 Responses to “Caller: If you do not like it here, go home!”

  • liat 513 (21/03/2012, 07:34) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Me agree let them go home
    • billy b (21/03/2012, 09:52) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      yeah but listen, "Mrs. Cedorene Malone-Smith, she said all official complaints that are made to the Peebles Hospital are reviewed, investigated and addressed". Obviously not because dem still there wuking!!!!!!!!!! Our Government need to stop allowing expatriates to accumulate pension money. Give them a work for 5-7 years then replace dem and stop letting our money leave the country to support them in there country. The pension money these expatriates taking home to there country every month could pay a local teen out of work today.
    • AirDrop (21/03/2012, 11:55) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      LOL it dnt got a liat 513... its lia315 dummy!!!
      • old glory (21/03/2012, 12:17) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        i do not care what flight number it is if they cannot respect the peole of the BVI then they could leve by Liat, red Jet of Fast ferry and that is the poit crazy man "airdrop"
      • I don't mean to laugh but (21/03/2012, 14:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        LOL...who cares...put them on it.
        • in the news (21/03/2012, 16:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          ha ha we aint dat strong to lift them up..some of dem get very fat since dem here eating we good BVI food!
  • Feel the same way (21/03/2012, 08:02) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    They should go home always talking about how bad Tortola is and where them from better. Well go back where u from
    • quiet observer (21/03/2012, 08:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I can't say how much I agree with what you said. I personally don't have an issue with ppl that aint from here but to constantly hear them bring down our country makes me upset. I had one personal experience with a lady that had nothing at all good to say abt Tortola, but yet when her time was up she kept running to immigration getting time to still stay on a place she had no good words for- and why immigration kept giving a person time covering an entire YEAR that aint work a min to contribute effectively to society is another alarming question! My thing is this, why are they flocking to our shores to then call it down so badly, if you aint like it leave cus the way I see it a bunch of perpetrators are here if things was so peachy in their countries why then come here?
    • - (21/03/2012, 16:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Well maybe you all should listen if so many people talking bad bad about Tortola then maybe Tortola has a problem. You are all very rude and rascist and have no respect.
  • My Humble Opinion (21/03/2012, 08:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well if they don't like it here, then i politely suggest they go somewhere that will suit their liking, to me it don't make sense to stay some place you don't have to if you're not happy.
    • Random (21/03/2012, 08:57) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      It does make sence when you are making the US dollar here and the exchange makes them millionaires where ever they came from, in the end they are the winners while we are still here trying to make ends meet. SAD
      • protection (21/03/2012, 13:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        With out legislative counsel full of island men not a thing would be done to protect locals! Hit the right spot
  • Straig Talk (21/03/2012, 08:24) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    This notion of "calling down" bvi islanders is just ridiculous. There is a reason why someone would so called call down bvi islanders. Could it be possible that these people are being treated poorly in some way, and rightfully responds? After all, it makes absolutely no sense that a person would "call down" bvi islanders for no reason. Rather that responding that people should go home, how about treating these expats better and like fellow humans? Perhaps they would have something kinder to say. Just a thought.
    • Discrete (21/03/2012, 09:54) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I agreed with you straight talk!! These people are being insulted and degraded every day of their lives by the locals. If somone said that they can't wait to leave that dosn't mean that they don't like Tortola...it's some of people that they have to put up with that make them that way. St Thomians say the same thing about Tortolians when they are in their country and they don't grouch about it. Totolians want everything free, even from the govt. don't want to ahere to their own rules. Remember the expatriates are the ones that make this country, some on you own was not here when things were bad, but the expatriates stay and build on it and make it their homes. Give Jack his jacket, live in unity and move on.
      • billy b (21/03/2012, 18:47) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        your comment sound stupid. If i a wrongfully treated in a country, why would i wait around to be treated worst????? Go hoooooooooooooooooommmmmmeeee!!!!!!! Wa happen, yuh fraid of your home??? If I go a place and they don't respect me all I need to do is go back where I live. Why whine and whine about how I cant wait to go home. WELL DON'T WAIT.......GO HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        • island people sweet (22/03/2012, 23:10) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          All of yall need to relax i agree if somone doesnt like where they are living they should go home....but let be fair...island people are discriminated against in everywhere possible.....kids discriminate against kids...in school..tell me where do they learn such insultive slurs....such as go back on the boat where you came from..has to be the circle around them....island people sweet because many individuals today would not have husbands nor wives....thank god for island people....if island peole this and that....marry your own...but noooo....people still marrying "island people right?.....contradicting oneself....everyone has to make a living....thats probably the only reason why they are here....many of these individual's homes/islands are very nice..they just want the US....in reality...several BVIslanders are away...several went away and never came back....so why is the island people look down on.....lets not forget we are all the same color whether we are from tortola..or from the other caribbean islands...we all came on a boat to the islands..by white men...so who should we really be mad at....we mad at our own people...so sad...i know someone will have something to say....but its reality...why can bvislander says insultive things about caribbean people...but the caribbean people cant.....BIAS....AS I SAID ISLAND PEOPLE SWEET....NOTHING SWEET LIKE THEM......HA HA
      • billy b (21/03/2012, 18:54) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        YUH DOG GONE LIE!!!!! St. Thomians aint saying a thing like that because it would be like st.thomians talking about themselves. ST. THOMIANS ARE TOLIANS!!!!!!! And for those of us who don't like St. Thomas (like me), I go, do what I have to do and catch the next ferry back out. I don't stay down there talking bad about st. thomians. I simply catch the next boat and come home.
        • mother lisa (23/03/2012, 05:15) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          Deeds people who continue to disrespect locals always trying to justify dem hate!
    • muffin (25/03/2012, 10:23) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      although we r not from here n were classed as cock-a-roaches, we all r created by GOD'S hands,so leave all judgement to him we r all one people.so stop all these negativities go n pray 4 love n unity n this will b a better b v i
  • ddb (21/03/2012, 08:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I live in New York and I am from the VI, parents from St Kitts and St Vincent. Living here I also hear so many islanders or even my non-islander friends from other countries saying the same thing about living in the US and my response is also the same....if you don't like it here then why not go home or some where else. I'm tired of hearing the complaints. When those expats go home they are home saying the same things about their own country. I love living in New York and I love the VI more. When I go to visit family in St Kitts and St Vincent I enjoy my time there and don't complain about anything becasue every country has flaws. I can't imagine my liffe always finding negatives to complain about.
  • ooooo (21/03/2012, 08:35) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    these ungrateful sob's
  • G (21/03/2012, 08:42) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I never understood the sense in bad talking Tortola when is HERE you came to make something of yourself...smh
  • RealTalk (21/03/2012, 08:49) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Ahhhhhhhhhhh, the power of the almighty dollar. Everybody kick up like bad mules when Mrs. Parsons made the comment about most of them (expats) not seeing a hundred dollar bill until they came here. It was a deep comment and most people did not understand what she meant. DEEP! For the record, there’s no place like home. If you don't like it, leave. One thing, I never see VI landers migrating down island, it’s always the other islands coming with outstretched hands, empty pockets wailing like sirens; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa like them gimme gimme gyal. Now that’s some RealTalk for you! Digest that!
    • U. Smith (21/03/2012, 09:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      it makes me smile that some people like "real talk" who are not even from the BVI on here bloging pretenting to be from the BVI Jah
    • Discrete (21/03/2012, 10:01) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You need to shut to hell up. The same reason the "Island people" come here is the same reason you'll go to the states and what for? The yankee dollar...some love Tortola just like some of you love USA. Some of you are just jealous, you know why...the island man knows how to stretch his dollar and save to build an empire and you dressed out yours, hair nails and clothes and have nothing. Ilene Parsons can say whatever she wants, luckily she still have a mouth on.
      • pipe (21/03/2012, 18:29) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        You sooo damm forward. We don't need to go to the States for the yankee dollar when we have it right here. Sounds like you jealous of the girls here with their nails and stuff. Stop hating and start loving. By the way be careful what you pray for on Eileen Parsons it might just come back to you.
      • billy b (21/03/2012, 19:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        yeah, hear wha u gon say bout our local people (Eileen Parson) Wa u still doing here????? We don't go to the states for the yankee dollar, we have it already. We go to the states because we are tired of being around people like you We are tired of bouncing into people like you We are tired of being a minority in our own country Every now and then we need to get away from you fools, especially the Jamaicans (eventhough they are EVERYWHERE)
        • Shameful (21/03/2012, 20:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          You come on here and air your hatred for expatriates. But it would be better you start acting the way you feel. Stop going to the bars and strip clubs. Stay home and chill out with your own mankind!!
      • half my family dwn island (21/03/2012, 20:26) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        whohahahaha, ahh mey boy. And Let's not forget our fore father's went to some of those same down island countries many expats are from, to seek a better life. Even if it meant living in the Dominican Republic to go mek 2 cents a day wuking on a plantation.The BVI was a back water pond not too long ago and thanks to the help of expatriates the country is a general success story. More respect should be given to our fellow bethrines of the Caribbean.
        • Get friggin real! (21/03/2012, 21:35) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          What the hell are you smoking?! People from the VI went to Santo Domingo and Cuba and tell me how many remained in either place. Nobody travelled south! Most came back home to the BVI. The VI was left to be a bird sanctuary, some VIslanders left for greener pastures and some remained. Other nationalities came in the lates when there was 'word' or work through construction, sailing and financial services. Yes, some expats have contributed and I salute those who have been here 20 years plus and contriibuted positively. The set that are coming now (2000 come forward to the future) are undesireables in my humble opinion! Only care about the currency and nothing else!!! I have nothing against expats but some really need an attitude check. We talk about nationalities from other islands but also forget those from the north (US, UK) which some enter our Territory with a racist attitude. Check the financial services and yachting industry and see if you do not encounter some really out of the way attitudes towards blacks (regardless of nationality). Some may want to call Tolians xenophobic but there is no fear of foreigners; just simple disgust of disrespectful foreigners.
        • billy b (21/03/2012, 23:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          STILL DON'T GET THE POINT!!!!!!!! YES WE MIGRATED TO OTHER COUNTRIES, BUT DID THOSE COUNTRIES EVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH US DISRESPECTING THEM IN THEIR COUNTRY?????????????????? THINKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DID WHAT WE HAD TO DO AND IF WE LIKED IT WE STAYED AND IF WE DIDN'T WE CAME BACK HOME. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE CANT TALK THE KINDA FART THEY TALKING IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY ( THEIR HEADLESS CORPS WOULD BE FOUND DECOMPOSING SOMEWHERE) YET THEY CAN COME TORTOLA TO TALK FART
          • half my family dwn island (23/03/2012, 22:31) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
            as a matter of fact, many complained...especially the ones who went to the D.R. to go cut cane. They complain how the sun hot, they complain they were treated like slaves, they complain ohh how the country racist, they complained ohh how they are discriminated against, they complain ohh how they were treated like the dislike haitians (due to invasion history......) complain complain complain....people complain end point
      • CeCe (11/06/2012, 13:41) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        Can't be the same reason why BVIslanders go to the US because they spend the same currency. What is the real reason because it cannot be money. They make far less in the US too
  • LOL (21/03/2012, 08:57) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    If they go home who going rent alyuh places the banks will go with them...... No matter we people go they will complaint its human nature.
    • billy b (21/03/2012, 09:43) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      shut yuh backside, ayo like to use that defense. You don't think it have local people want house to rent?????? Go yuh backside home. We rather have empty houses than have ayo in here being a damn nusance to us.
      • sally (23/03/2012, 14:35) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        please why should you rent you have money you are from here please be real you cannot make it
    • 1/2&1/2 (21/03/2012, 10:33) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @LOL......VIlanders had homes before you came to rent them and if you left we would adjust like we always do. Another thing there were always expats in the VI (there wasn't always such a presence). Expats would react just like VIlanders are reacting if what is current happening in the VI was happening in their homeland. Seem like expats would prefer if VIlanders just sat back without reacting and man that doesn't sense the potential danger whether real or fake, makes himself available to be enslaved/destroyed. VI no longer feels like the VI, that is the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Envy (21/03/2012, 10:35) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Your jealous behind! I guess you rather we build shanty with galvanize roof, jack-o-lantern and pit toilet to accommodate you to live in.
    • Sense? (21/03/2012, 11:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      LOL" you the only one on here making sense... if we send home these ppl who we goin rent our apts out to? WHo goin clean our houses and babysit our children? who goin clean up the garbage? in other words, who goin do ALL the lowly work we bvislanders aint want to do? Some ppl will complain no matter where they live whether in their own country our ours. We simply have to live with it and i dont have a problem with them being here. My only problem is if they commit crimes, then send them packing... and for the record many bvislanders call down our own islands at times... that just ppl y'all
    • Lilly (11/06/2012, 13:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Why are you concerned about who will rent people's houses. That's not really your concern. BVI belongers rent too.
  • Ally (21/03/2012, 08:57) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Dont you all get it? Its the mighty US Dollar thats brings alot of expats here. If the BVI was using EC do you really think we have have this issue. A lot of Caribbean expats just here for the US Currency.
  • dude (21/03/2012, 09:01) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I didn't like the states so I left it, simple!
    • red jet (21/03/2012, 20:02) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Yea yea! so who aint like it in the bvi go the hell back to your country end of story
  • Notes...... (21/03/2012, 09:15) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    It is disgusting that people coming to the B.V.I, work, collect a pay check, feed there family and still called down the place. Some of them use the B.V.I for a reference to go to the U.S.A and still called them down as well. If your country is better then any one esle then why do you leave your country?? Why spend all that wasted money to come to a place you don't like?? um....... like me place!!
    • Discrete (21/03/2012, 10:10) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Do you think that every tortolian in St thomas love it, Hell no. They went there to survive just like others who gone to the states. In 1977 the immigration was sending out the island people from here and you know what, lots of people lose their houses to the banks...there was no one to rent them. Why don't we send all the Island people home and see what would become of this place......there is no resources, can't depend on tourism. What the hell will happen then.....I know, you'll will fill up the United States by leaving here.....You love here so much that your children can't even be born here, that's how good you love it....just like the island people love here....you'll rather be in the united states and born your children there.....You holding on to the USA just like the Island people holding on to Tortola. BORN YOUR CHILDREN HERE AND NOT IN THE USA.
      • billy b (21/03/2012, 12:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        illiterate people like you will always miss the point. There are a lot of Tortolians living all about the place. but how many of us will go to these places and disrespect the locals in the way that island people do here?????????? If tolians in st. thomas there trying to make a better living for themselves, and they don't like the place, its policies and its people, they need to get the hell out of st. thomas toooooooo. DON'T YOU IDIOTS GET IT??????????? If you are not happy about where you have migrated to, get the hell out. I don't even care if you are tolian. TOLIANS, IF YOU ARE IN A MAN'S COUNTRY AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT THERE, DO NOT DISRESPECT ITS PEOPLE, COME YOUR TAIL HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      • Non-Discrete (21/03/2012, 16:24) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        So let's see, then. Leave, and let's see if our economy falls apart. I'll bet, no matter what, we STILL do better than YOUR country.
        • half my family dwn island (21/03/2012, 21:37) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          shut up, do better in what sense. The problem lies with the population to economy size. the BVI is fortunate to have a population to economy size that allows for a 30,000 plus per head GDP. So people are afforded to earn more by their masses . A dwn island economy is way much larger than ours. the problem is that their population to economy size affords them a smaller GDP. So their people are afforded less, by their masses.
  • SVG (21/03/2012, 09:25) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    hush yuh tail we going home when we ready ayo tola people need to stop fighting each other.
    • billy b (21/03/2012, 09:46) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      tis people like you is why the caller called, but don't worry, we on a mission to fix all ayo papers.
    • quiet observer (21/03/2012, 10:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      u could talk bout tola ppl fighting each other??? wha de ras i seein here kettle calling the pot botty black!!!! who does chop up they own ppl more than vincentians? everytime ya look round some vincy choppin up he woman or some other person in st vincent, u try go clean ur own back yard b4 u come try clean tola own!! talking pure s**t!
    • bvi (21/03/2012, 10:46) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You going home 'when you ready'. Hmm. I hope your papers straight because it would not be 'when you ready' but when Immigration catches up with you. Set of pompous faggots
      • quiet observer (21/03/2012, 12:12) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        Yes Sah them getting real bold I guess they got shares in Immigration.
    • Talk dat (21/03/2012, 11:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      you hush yo tail in SVG they fighting down each other just as bad, and maybe if you did not come here you might not know how good it feels to hold hundreds of us dollars in your damn hand so shut up. And stop selling it.
    • My Humble Opinion (21/03/2012, 11:05) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      As far as i am concerned, i have absolutely nothing against foreigners coming here in effort to make a better life (i repeat a better life, in recognition that life may have been good), but truth is the only place that is perfect is heaven, every where else has its flaws, so as long as you here, make the best of it while it lasts until your time comes to go home, and try to leave something commendable to be remembered by. Adapt to what is here, everywhere can't be like home, and home can't be like everywhere else.
  • Another spin (21/03/2012, 10:08) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I came here for the love of the country, not for the US$, i dont give a rats about the US$. I talk down the place sometimes because i see how the country is going downhill through stupid decisions, stupid attitudes and lack of foresight. I love Tola but can also see that it is destined to crash and thats sad. When it gets too bad i will have to search for somewhere else where i want to live, in the meantime i continue to do what i can to progress this country and have much more pride in it than the average BVIslander does.
  • Pimp (21/03/2012, 10:27) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Don' t let the plane door hit you on your a$$ on the way out. It's ironic, most of time, where these people come from they were struggling and when they get here, things get better for them. Sad.
  • tola (21/03/2012, 10:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I agree with the caller they always bashing tola get out the country if you aint like it
  • Talk dat (21/03/2012, 10:55) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I am an expat and I am glad to call tortola home. Most of them from other contries should be glad they came here as they would not be able to buy land to build house let alone drive a car, they would have to wait until somebody give them a piece of land or Govt give them housing. I am glad and thank the people of Tortola for accepting me and treating me as one of them and wherever I go I always BIG UP this country, I have spent more of my living years here than where I come from. To be honest I hardly go where I come from. As far as I am concerned this is my home I am only missing the BirthCertificate so , if they unhappy let them leave. THE AIRPORT AINT CLOSE DOWN YET, bye bye you UNGRATEFUL ONES.
  • dominant (21/03/2012, 10:58) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I amdire the expats, especially the women. They have their agenda to work end home their money, which is their previledge of doing and still at the same time wreck the homes of family and build houses accumulate a fat bank account. I salute them. I don't mean all of them. They are few, very few that will work honestly. And call BVI their new home.
  • Mz (21/03/2012, 11:02) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I'm a little confused...some people claim they hear others say "I can't wait to go home" ...How exactly is that disrecpecting the BVI in any way shape or form. Some people come here to make a better living yeah and some just say it simply because they have a little vacation time and CAN'T WAIT TO GO HOME TO SEE THEIR FAMILY! ever thought about that when a person says "I can't wait to go home" I agree some do belittle the VI, but please don't put all of us in the same category.
  • HOME GIRL! (21/03/2012, 11:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    If I were an Immigration Officer I would send you home in a hurry when I hear you calling down my country. I would send you on the next plane. I sick of you people calling down our country. In the 60's we had decent expatriates from Eastern Caribbean living among us. They were respectable people, even their children attended school with us at the original St Mary's School. But now we just getting the hooligans from these countries coming to live among us. THey need sending home yes.
  • Not2Sure (21/03/2012, 11:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    If expats who talk down the BVI should be sent home, what should we do with all the BVislanders who talk down the BVI?
    • US Teacher (21/03/2012, 12:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      A$$! they already home!
    • billy b (21/03/2012, 12:18) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      We have to deal with them, they belong to us. We deal with them every single day. That is why we need these expats out of here because we are catching enough hell with our own people we don't need any help from them.
    • Birth Right (21/03/2012, 13:48) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      There are not much that talk down VI as home. Perhaps those that are abroad and not wanting to return. We as VIslanders have the right to criticize our own home if we see something is amiss! We have the right to vote.
      • Home Grown Abroad (21/03/2012, 15:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        I am a BVIslander and had the opportunity to live in many countries around the world. I have not only learned alot about the different countries that I have lived in but i also enjoy telling people about where I am from because they have never heard of it muchless seen it before and the first thing they say to me is why would I leave paradise, . I simply say to them i love my country and i am forever proud to be from The Virgin Islands but the truth is i love my job because it gives me the opportunity see the world and the different cultures of each country I have lived in during the years. I see nothing wrong with wanting to better ourselves but as we do this we must also be respectful of other people's culture and their ways of life etc. I love the BVI and it will always be home no matter which country I chose to live in. There is no better feeling I get on the day I know I am boarding a plane to go home for a while, but i am also happy when i leave the shores of the BVI as well because i am also excited to see where I will be calling home for a while... Life is a journey, walk it and enjoy every step along the way...
  • ladies sugar (21/03/2012, 12:22) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    "Currently, indigenous Virgin Islanders are a minority, both in the population and in the workforce"....boss this statment is compelling! makes me want to cry! and with this NDP government help will not be on the way.
  • Jamie (21/03/2012, 12:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I agree, if you dont like it here, go home or else find ways to deal with your individual/family suituation. I think its fair to voice your opinion on a matter provided your have enough knowledge about the matter, however it is totally disrespectful to call down the BVI and say all kinds of nasty things. It makes absolutely NO SENSE to stick around for 5, 10 or 15+ years saying nasty things over and over again. Virgin Islander (Non-indigenous)
  • Mmm (21/03/2012, 13:03) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I agree with some of you to a point. But if they can't wait to go home....they can't wait to go home...ain nothing. (shrugging shoulders). But thats why I admire some of them that actually get up and do go home instead of talking it for years and never do.
  • I telling yo (21/03/2012, 13:36) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    This Topic is very dear to my heart #1 I'm a BVI Lander and proud #2 if the BVI so bad why leave your own contry and come here to work #3 most people that come here to work is the first pay check they evey get in they life because there own country dont have any work for them #4 I will advise to all you people who love to call down the BVI LIAT and AA leaves the BVI offten enough be on one of them filghts ( ayo mekin mi sick now)
    • I don't mean to laugh but (21/03/2012, 14:48) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      LOL.......Uno hear. Maybe some people should think about how they would feel if a whole bunch of people came to their country (even to the point where the natives are a minority in their own land) and started talking about oh how horrible the country is and oh how horrible the people are....I guess it will quite naturally irritate the natives of the land and that obviously seems to be the case here based on these comments.
  • Crazy talk (21/03/2012, 15:22) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    When you hear expats say 'they cant wait to go home' it is just crazy talk. That statement comes from a place of frustration at the work place due to abuse or perhaps unfair treatment. I am an expat and I believe you cant say the kitchen you always getting your food from is dirty, therefore I choose not to call down the BVI. I have however encountered bvislanders who let me know straight up that I am not welcome, on the other hand I have met bvislanders who treated me very kind and i in turn have taken them to my home country several times. In the end u have to take the good with the bad...
  • egg face (21/03/2012, 16:08) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    sam needs to tell we why he left the states
    • billy b (22/03/2012, 00:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      WHY?????????????????? BY ANY CHANCE IS THAT YOUR BUSINESS??????????????????????
  • Ty-Rexx (21/03/2012, 16:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    How long do you think a VIslander would last in Jamaica, St Kitts, Saint Lucia on any other Caribbean island if he or she was living there and called down THAT country? I believe a murder may occur. That is another reason to be respectful and thankful in the BVI. You call us down and still live to see another day. Remember, LIAT may "leave island any time" but, eventually, it WILL leave.
    • rise up locals (21/03/2012, 22:40) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      i agree with you "ty-Rexx" BVI people will not dear go down or up island and call down any body county... they will be chase out in a rush. These fools can only get away with that here becasue they think we BVI people soft soft...but enough is enough! time for the revolution
  • Food for Thought (21/03/2012, 19:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    This topic remains one of the most ardently debated topics in the BVI. As I see it both BVIsanders and expats engage in insulting and disrespectful dialogue which begets retaliatory disrespectful and insulting comments to each other; consequently perpetuating a vicious cycle of verbally abusive and disrespectful behavior. Generally, people that engage in this behavior of lashing out with disrespectful and insulting comments includes the indigent, unexposed, narrow-minded, uneducated and/or ignorant groups of each of the respective populace. Until each group (BVIslanders and expats) can espouse proper etiquette when interacting with diverse groups of people, this ill-mannered, insulting and insolent behavior on the part of both groups will continue. The saddest part of the whole debacle is that both groups continue to engage in this impudent behavior and continue to have children who are then caught in the middle of this onslaught of insults.
    • billy b (22/03/2012, 00:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      WE ALL FAIL TO REALIZE THERE IS A SIMPLE REMEDY, RESPECT PEOPLE IN THEIR COUNTRY. DO THAT AND WE ALL GOOD.
  • wow (21/03/2012, 19:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    NOW NOW !! people of the virgim Islands start this thing by calling them island man! now it turn around on you now.they getting fat and building they house home and now they retaliating all you vex!!!! lol lol
    • billy b (22/03/2012, 00:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      So tis only when island man come here, house start to build??????????? strruuupppes
  • boy george (21/03/2012, 23:23) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    just remember is not only Caribbean people are consider ex-pat this place full of white people on work permits and they do talk down and disrespect the locals too so you all must remember that.
    • billy b (22/03/2012, 09:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      So you think we aint talking about them too. but the difference between the whites and the blacks is that the white will smile with pretence (trying to make you think they like you) but the black ones want to tell yuh to yuh face how stupid yuh is.
  • the real home (22/03/2012, 00:37) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    All of us need to go back to africa and europe
  • hazzra (22/03/2012, 00:50) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    You guys and girls keep bigging up Yankee dollar as if you all are yankees. Do you own a mint, do you? You talk of indigenous as if you been here since Adam. What history or lies they telling you in school. You do not have respect for yourself but feels that because you are a citizen you can buse, abuse, misuse whoever cause they don't come from here. If the woman/man made a comment you am certain don't know half of her story. But you're quick to pick it apart with the little mindedness and run mek headlines. It is a dawn shame that you have such quick/swift judgement for foreigners. What some one a dem woman/man tek way you sweetie? It is sad that many has decided to forget the days when your foreparents used to travel out to bring back the goodies as has been the case for people in other places. Just on observation. The constitution is for everyone and the days of slavery supposed to be over aint it. So what if someone can't wait to leave. As you certainly showing her/him they are not wantedhere unless they act stupid and tek whatever you give. What is she to look forward to here? I am certain whenever you leave this territory you have plans of your own and work on achieving them. So what is wrong with foreigners trying to achieve their goals. What really is wrong with that eh?
    • tyler (22/03/2012, 09:55) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Sounds like you too need to be on the first LIAT flight out of here tomorrow morning. What the hell do you know of us and our history? You don't come here trying to teach me my history. We were taught and well taught too. We know who we are and where we came from. Don't need your pea brain to come on here telling me pi$$. If you don't have anything to look forward to here...get yu a$$ from here.
    • well sah (22/03/2012, 10:57) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Maybe creating our own mint and currency will be the only way to get rid of ayo set a cockroach. Did the caller knew that she was going to make headline and stir up such a hot debate???? No!!!! If you are a professional and performing a service, your personal life is not my business and regardless of what you are going through you should be professional enough to keep it out of the workplace. Nobody force you to sign up for nursing and if you have a problem and it is too overwhelming for you, leave it. Don’t take it out on the patient. You going on like this is the only person that talk us down, it is a customary thing with you people now, and we have to put a stop to it!!!! In St. Vincent ayo chopping off one another head the simplest thing. In Jamaica ayo eating bullet for breakfast lunch and dinner, dem fraid to go sleep in dem own house. Ayo don’t want us judge ayo but ayo judging us as soon as ayo reach. We haven’t forgotten where our foreparents have travelled, we are proud that when they travelled they came back, and shared good experiences and stories of how they chipped in to help the locals. They didn't sit down and not talk fart bout them. They respected people in their country. Ayo saying ayo cant wait to leave as if somebody got ayo tie here. Stop waiting to leave and LEAVE, man. According to you, "If she don’t have nothing to look forward to here", you have made my point!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BACK HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ayo need to stop telling lies on us by saying we don’t want ayo here. What we are saying is that ayo need to make the money you come to make and keep yuh damn mouth shut. If we are bad people, we bad in our own country (every country has its share), we don’t need any negative contribution from ayo.
  • go home (22/03/2012, 04:51) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    We not leaving we will go kicking and screaming lol
    • so then tell (22/03/2012, 20:36) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Then you all need to shut the hell up and respect bvi people
  • Cassidy (22/03/2012, 09:12) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    "Love it or leave it"!! Takes me back to the bad days of the USA in the 1970s. Good way to shut down any form of constructive criticism And every country needs some of that.
  • this world is not my home (22/03/2012, 12:58) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Take me home for me that's haven
  • quare (22/03/2012, 18:26) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    llet them go home we dont need them!
  • VI Talent (22/03/2012, 21:02) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    While everyone bickering back and forth with all the negativity, here is something positive to watch about Two twin girls who are from Tortola (CGB) and are away at college on basketball scholarships... http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_214526.html?silverlight=1
  • facts for all to read (23/03/2012, 06:11) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    we have more to lose than to gain if we send them all home....but at the same time we dont want the BVI to be flooded with large influx of poor people from other countries which can cause crime.
  • LieStink (23/03/2012, 13:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Some points: 1 - You people seriously saying someone who is not from a country is NOT allowed to express an opinion about that country, good or bad? We have freedom of speech here, and freedom of opinion. I don't see nothing on the immigration form saying 'if we let you in you must say we are fantastic otherwise you got to leave.' NONSENSE TALK. If people live here, they going form opinions about here. You saying they not allowed to express opinions? 2 - just reading these comments makes me sad because it shows exactly why some people might want to talk down the BVI. There's SO MUCH HATE among BVIslanders! It comes out as hate against outsiders, foreigners, whatever - but all it really shows is hate for our own selves. People comfortable with their identity don't need to project negative stuff onto others, but people with self-loathing do it all the time to make themselves feel better. Fact of life. 3 - I's a BVIslander but if you ask me which of the two groups suffer more prejudice and abuse I got to say - sad to say - its outsiders by a mile! These people come here mostly for two reasons - to earn money because they come from poorer economies and they migrating to earn, just like our ancestors did and many of our people are doing right now. Once they here, often they can't just decide to leave because they locked into the life they adopted - kids in school here, spouses here, or people back home relying on the money send back. So they can't just 'get on a plane' as soon as they realize they living in a country that doesn't want them. Others come here because they love it, they want to live and work somewhere beautiful, warm and a whole lot sweeter than their life in urban/suburban/cold USA or Europe. Most of these are whites and almost NONE of them is racist otherwise they wouldn't move to a country where black people outnumber them and run tings. Most of them are very, very anti racism. They like black people and hate prejudice. But if you racist to someone who is anti racist - then it gets confusing. They don't know what to think. Local people on here saying all whites are racist and ting. Check your mouth. They might have a different culture, but 99% of the time they are not in any way racists. Its YOU! Both these types of immigrants are at extremely high risk of being abused in the BVI - from Immigration or other institutions, or just by people on the street, in shops and of course, on comment boards like this. They feel your hate. Many of my people are acting like five year-olds these days. 'Whaa whaaa whaa!! I want dis, you did dat!!' I urge BVIslanders to mentally grow up, love ourselves a little more and if we can't love ourselves then we got to put some effort into ACHIEVING OUR DREAMS, DOING SOME GOOD, SPREADING SOME LOVE, so that down the line we do have reason to love ourselves a little better. All this hate is taking us nowhere, local or foreign. False pride is just that - false, and prideful. It don't mean a ting, just serves as food for the dark side.
    • well sa (23/03/2012, 21:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      you made a very good effort to make sense out of what you are trying to say; however, you have only managed to prove yourself as being a long-winded idiot. "Local people on here saying all whites are racist and ting", REALLY??????????? OUT OF 105 BLOGGERS, WHERE THE HECK DID YOU READ THAT????????????????????
      • LieStink (26/03/2012, 14:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        @WellSah - SO many comments on VINO and the other news websites I read that stuff about whites all being racist and that nonsense. You seriously goin tell me you never seen that on these blogs? Nonsense. The point was that there's a lot of unjustified hate and xenophobia about outsiders white and black and almost all of it is based on prejudice and insecurity coming from us BVIslanders. We need to get over it. If my points were too long for you, sorry. Some people can handle more than a short soundbite, some can't. You obviously can't. But thanks for the abuse. It proves my point that we BVIslanders treat each other bad, too, not just outsiders.
  • hurt (24/03/2012, 20:57) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I have literally experienced the hatred of foreigners by BVI Islanders. I have suffered in silence, I have taken my blows which has weaken my psyche. I am an honest and hard working person who came here not for a job, but to go college and maybe make a life for myself. I did not come from a poor family, neither was I destitute, I just wanted to strike out on my own and take up on an opportunity. After all the verbal, mental and emotional abuse one begins to strike back. The comments and treatment are way hateful and makes you feel less than a human being. I am not saying that there are not foreigners portraying the ignorance stated by it ways more on the side of BVIslanders disrespecting foreigners just because they are in "Your" country. Does being in your country give you the right to demean and humiliate another human being. Even the term down island is meant derogatory and demeaning. That's right you would not go in another mans country and mudsling, but few other countries give reasons to do so as they treat you fair and square regardless of where you are from.
    • billy b (25/03/2012, 14:03) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      I admire your humbleness, and if people like you were to come to our country with the kind of humility you have pertrayed we wont be so hostile, but you have to realize that what is going on here is a lash out which is resulting from years of victimization. BVIslanders are nice people, but WE ARE HAVE MANY SCARS. WE CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE, and kind innocent people like you (innocent paying for the guilty) are baring the brunt of our anger. To you I apologize, but we have to stand firm and band together to protect our own interest.
  • 2012 (25/03/2012, 06:50) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well mey boy this topic is hot
  • just checking in (25/03/2012, 23:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    i checked with Liat, American, and fast ferry and no one has left the bvi for home to stay home!!!! they all got round trip tickets. So the lesson is; you in my country hush your ra$$ from trying to disrespect BV islanders
  • sun shine (26/03/2012, 03:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Dem aint gone yet????
  • nonindii (26/03/2012, 19:22) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Four waves of pre-Columbian people settled in the Virgin Islands: the Ciboney, Igneri, Taino, and Kalinago peoples. Each group arrived in the Virgin Islands from South America, and each brought new advances in crop cultivation, social structure, and tools. Ciboney The first humans are thought to have been present in the Virgin Islands as early as 2200 b.c. These earliest islanders, called Ciboney by the Spanish and Ortoiroid by today’s archaeologists, were fisher-foragers who did not make pottery or cultivate plants. They lived nomadically and used crude stone tools to prepare food. Shellfish was probably an important part of their diet. The Ciboney lived in crude shelters, fashioned out of palm fronds and other material at hand. Social organization was primitive; families who lived and traveled together constituted a single band, without organized leadership. Archaeological evidence of these Stone Age people has been discovered at Krum Bay, St. Thomas, and Brewer’s Bay, Tortola. Igneri The next wave was the Igneri, or Saladoid, people, who migrated from South America around 400 b.c. and lived undisturbed in the Virgin Islands for almost 1,000 years. They cultivated crops, including yucca and cassava. In addition to fish, the flesh of the agouti, a ratlike animal they raised, was their primary source of protein. The Igneri knew how to make pottery and produced thin griddles on which they cooked cassava. They lived in communal round houses. Taino Much more is known about the third and most sophisticated group of pre-Columbians to live in the Virgin Islands. These people, defined by a different style of pottery and more advanced cultivation and social systems, have become known as Taino (the Arawaks of popular legend). Tainos lived throughout the Virgin Islands; archaeologists have found evidence of Taino settlement at some 32 sites on Tortola alone. The Salt River Bay area of St. Croix is widely believed to be an important Taino settlement and has been studied extensively. Digs at Cinnamon Bay, St. John, and Hull Bay, St. Thomas, have unearthed evidence of Taino settlements at those locations. Tainos traveled between islands in large canoes. Their caciques (chiefs) arbitrated disputes, oversaw cultivation and hunting, and made decisions about the future of the village. Cacique was a hereditary position. Ornamentation was important to the Tainos, for it was linked to their religious beliefs. In their worship they used zemis—idols made of wood, stone, bone, shell, and clay—through which they worshiped the gods and sought to exert control over them. The Taino god of wind and water, Jurakan, is the namesake of today’s hurricanes. Some zemis were believed to influence the weather, crops, hunting, wealth, and childbirth. Religious leaders called behiques communicated with the gods and healed the sick and injured. Taino villages were typically a ring of circular huts. The cacique lived in large rectangular houses with his wives; commoners lived in round thatched-roof huts with dirt floors and one door. They slept in hammocks. Tainos enjoyed parties. They created castanets out of stone and used them to make music. Both men and women played a ball game using a rubber ball. Evidence of ball courts has been found at Belmont, Tortola, and Salt River Bay, St. Croix. Kalinago The final wave of pre-Columbian people arrived in the Virgin Islands shortly before Christopher Columbus’s “discovery” of the islands. The Kalinago (popularly known as Caribs) were a martial society that had made its way northward from South America, conquering the more peaceful Tainos along the way. Defeated Taino males were killed or taken as slaves, while Taino women were absorbed into the Kalinago society. It was a Kalinago village that Columbus and his men set upon on November 1493 when they sailed into Salt River Bay, St. Croix, but archaeologists do not know whether the Kalinago had reached St. Thomas, St. John, or the other islands at that time. No archaeological evidence has been unearthed that they had, and since Columbus and his fleet did not stop at any of the other Virgin Islands, no documentary evidence exists either. The myth that the Kalinago were cannibals has never been substantiated, and, if they did eat human flesh, it is almost certain they did so for ceremonial purposes only. More likely, the myth came from the Kalinago’s fierce nature and the fact that their way of honoring the dead was to hang their bones in pots from the rafters of their homes—a practice misinterpreted by the Spanish who came into contact with them. The Spanish, who originated the myth of the cannibalistic Carib, benefited from its spread because it justified their ruthless extermination of the islands’ native populations. Like Taino marriages, Kalinago marriages were polygamous, although not every man could afford to have more than one wife. For Tainos, it was the caciques who were most likely to have multiple wives; for the Kalinago it was the warriors. Believing that it made them more beautiful, the Kalinago flattened the front and back of their children’s heads. The Kalinago’s social organization was looser than that of the Taino; Kalinago culture emphasized physical prowess and individualism. While settlements had a leader, his authority was limited. War chiefs were chosen from among villagers based on their skill in battle. The Kalinago lived separated by gender; the men lived together in large building called a carbet, while the women lived in smaller houses. Tobacco was the standard of exchange. Kalinago military dominance was due to the culture’s focus on training and their development of more deadly weapons than the Taino had. Young Kalinago men were trained as children to be warriors, and the values of courage and endurance were highly valued. The bow and arrow was the most common Kalinago weapon; poison from deadly plants was used on the tip of the arrow to increase the chance of death. The Kalinago depended on the element of surprise in achieving military victories. Demise Within 100 years of Spanish arrival in the Caribbean, there were no more indigenous people living in the Virgin Islands. Some were captured as slaves to work in Spanish gold mines, and others fled southward to islands farther away from the Spanish strongholds of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. The Caribbean island of Dominica still has a “Carib” community—descendants of these people. Others stayed put and fought their new Spanish neighbors. St. Croix’s Caribs, as the Spanish called them, violently opposed Spanish settlement of the region; the new Spanish settlement on Puerto Rico was the target of numerous raids and attacks between 1510 and 1530. On one raid, the Caribs killed the newly appointed governor of the colony. In response to the aggression, the Spanish crown formally gave its settlers in the region license to hunt and kill Caribs in 1512, a move that marked the beginning of the end for the remaining Virgin Islands native people. Although they continued to raid and attack Puerto Rico between 1520 and 1530, they were ultimately no match for the Spanish. By 1590, and probably well before that on most of the islands, indigenous people had disappeared from the Virgin Islands. Today, there are no native people in the Virgin Islands. Only a few of their words—such as hurricane, hammock, and barbecue—remain.
    • NEVER AGAIN (26/03/2012, 23:54) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      we will never allow you all to rewrite our history again so say that we have no identity..never! never! never! again. our Eyes are open
  • nonindii (26/03/2012, 19:58) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    At any time when humans have been in the Antillean islands there have been expeditions of exploration, migrations, long-distance relations with former homelands, trade between strangers, warfare between neighbors, rebellion within communities, adoption of outside innovations, and merging of cultures.
  • Shocked (31/03/2012, 02:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I am moving to the BVI later this year and these comments have scared me. I've been an expat in other countries before and have never experienced this kind of hostility. Seems like one will be immediately pre-judged just because he/she is not from the BVI. :-( Kinda sad I read this post. I do believe however that every country has its good and bad and so look forward to meeting some respectful, warm Islanders. Everyone can't be judgemental of expats. There must be some who will give me the same respect as a human that I plan to give to them also.
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