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‘VI not a real country’– Trunk Bay residents told

-Trinidadian accused of deliberately damaging newly paved road & saying VI is not a real country
The deep impressions from the wheels of the vehicle that allegedly drove through the wet cemented road at Trunk Bay. Photo: VINO
Trunk Bay residents and the contractors and his workers regret the waste of revenue, time and labour as a result of the damage and which will result in the project taking longer than initially scheduled. Photo:VINO
Trunk Bay residents and the contractors and his workers regret the waste of revenue, time and labour as a result of the damage and which will result in the project taking longer than initially scheduled. Photo:VINO
Another view of the damaged road. Photo: Provided
Another view of the damaged road. Photo: Provided
TRUNK BAY, Tortola, VI - Some residents of Parker’s Estate at Trunk Bay arrived home on Thursday evening of last week (June 12, 2014) to a sight that they said they could not believe would happen in the Virgin Islands (VI).

In a private estate, with only three people living in close community, a road was being paved for the benefit of the persons living in that area. The jeep of one of the residents was parked at the beginning of the road together with a strategically placed 2 x 4 in order to indicate that the concrete was still wet and that no cars could pass.

It was alleged that the expatriate residents who lived below the road, drove straight through the wet concrete in order to drive directly to their property.  The road had been under construction since Thursday of the previous week and all three residents were said to have had full knowledge of the continuing events.

Each resident made the necessary adjustments. With the final piece of the road being paved, all three residents would have to park behind the concrete and walk to their houses until the final piece dried out.

Two of the peeved residents said that when the estate engineer, Val Corrington was called and told of the turn of events, they said he did not understand the gravity of the situation until he arrived on site the next morning.

When he got there and witnessed the situation, he went into full rage, as one resident told this news site and confirmed by the other.

In speaking to Mr Corrington, he said, “I am extremely disappointed that people could behave this way in community with others. In particular, I am upset because of the hard work that the men put in over the last week and half to have the road completed. They have disrespected their neighbours and also the tradesmen's labour and I hope that they learn from the consequences that this situation will cause them.”

It was alleged In the midst of all the confrontation, one of the residents who was responsible for ruining the road proceeded to say, amongst other things,  that, “if this were a real country, then cones would have been put in place to show that the road was wet.”

When Virgin Islands News Online spoke with resident Mr. Mark Wollner, he said, “It was obvious to anybody with sense that the road was wet and my jeep was parked there to indicate that cars could not pass. A 2 x 4 was also placed across the road for further indication. In my experience with construction, that is sufficient indication. Further, the way my jeep was parked, they had to angle their jeep to get around mine and must have been moving in very slow motion to do so. Therefore, they would have felt the wheel sinking as they entered the concrete, with enough time to reverse if they wanted to; but instead they drove right over the piece of 2 x 4 and straight through the concrete, which instead seems like a deliberate action.”

Virgin Islander and Trunk Bay resident, Ms. Ayana S. Hull also registered her disgust as she said she had been waiting for the estate to pave the road for some time in order to stop the damage to her car as she does not own an SUV. 

She said, “It is a new realisation for me when I walk out of my house at 7:45 in the morning and I listen to a Trinidadian woman telling me to my face that the BVI is not a real country. My response to her was that we do not need her here in our unreal country and that she should go back to where she came from and where thought was real for her to live.”

Ms Hull continued, “I can take a lot of things but I am not going to sit down and allow people to behave like this in the BVI and just take it. I have to agree with the present Leader of the Opposition, I think it was, when he said that people like those have overstayed their welcome in my BVI.”

According to Ms Hull Ms. Myrna Herbert, the person in charge of Parker Trunk Bay Estate also said that she is fully aware of what transpired and she is not at all happy with the situation and is addressing the irresponsible and inconsiderate actions accordingly with the perpetrators.

Ms. Hull said she also alerted as many of the politicians as would answer their phones last Thursday night about the situation. She said one was empathetic with the situation.

“Another one indicated that he was busy preparing for the HOA and had five people in front of him and basically trivialised the issue,” she said.

Hull said the irritated response of the second politician bothered her because VIslanders are being forced to live in a country where nobody has any respect for them and everyone believes it is open season to do what they want and I believe that this is an important issue for our leaders to pay attention to as well. 

“I have lived in the Florida, Barbados, Cambridge and London in pursuit of higher education and wherever I went, I simply fit into the people’s community and I respected and accepted the idiosyncrasies of those countries for the time that I had to be there. Nowhere is perfect. I know for sure we (the BVI) are not perfect, far from it; but BVIslanders must be able to live in peace and harmony in our own country and those who do not intend to fall in line can simply leave.”

She went on to say that nothing has upset her that much in a long time. “I pray that while our politicians appear to have placed their HOA deliberations on who gets which contract etc. as top priority, that BVIslanders are protected in the process so that they are allowed to enjoy those concrete developments and solutions approved in the HOA; as at the rate we are going, it does not appear that that will be the case."

The estate developers and the residents expressed their hope that they could all just get along and that persons would have respect for each other’s quality of life by compromising when they have to, while they all live in a community that is still developing.

97 Responses to “‘VI not a real country’– Trunk Bay residents told”

  • Observer (16/06/2014, 09:24) Like (27) Dislike (32) Reply
    We are out numbered in the bvi by expats and right now they are ganging up against us right now,look at the police force,the attorney general office and many other areas in the Judicial system,i agree with Miss Hull our politicians only dealing with their own personal pet projects but come next year they will want to listen but it will be a little to late for them..We even can't report to the police force they set their own free and lock up the bvi landers and its a shame, people please please pay attention..
  • Bees (16/06/2014, 09:24) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Logic needs wisdom without which absurdity reigns.
  • WHY? (16/06/2014, 09:25) Like (53) Dislike (16) Reply
    Why when something goes wrong and people have disagreements it has to come to who born here and who ain't born here? Why? Can't we just deal with the character of the individuals involved? The bottom line is we all come from the same place...Africa and Europe. Please, let us treat each other with dignity and respect. What the person did was inconsiderate, but let it not boil down to who was or wasn't born here...because character knows no geographical boundaries.
    • you are correct (16/06/2014, 12:46) Like (39) Dislike (1) Reply
      But that is not the issue in the article. The issue is the disrepect you have for another person's country and vocalising it instead of admitting your own fault.
  • son of the soil (16/06/2014, 09:27) Like (9) Dislike (14) Reply
    Deport he islunt arse!
    • Lawd GO! (16/06/2014, 22:00) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      Everyday I pray for them people place to turn around, just anything for em to simply simply go back home to build up them place.
    • shut the f*** up (19/06/2014, 15:39) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      we should deport your idiotic arse
  • ?? (16/06/2014, 09:29) Like (23) Dislike (26) Reply
    Is the NDP paving private roads for wealthy people??
  • Tolian (16/06/2014, 09:30) Like (17) Dislike (5) Reply
    Put her ignorant backside out.
    • Me (16/06/2014, 13:13) Like (9) Dislike (10) Reply
      What if the inconsiderate and rude person was a BVIslander, since you can't deport her, what would you recommend as discipline for her action?
  • HELP HELP HELP (16/06/2014, 09:39) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    Ting to talk
  • two cents (16/06/2014, 09:45) Like (67) Dislike (10) Reply
    Why not pave one side of the road and let it dry, then the next day pave the other half of the road and let it dry. This way persons can still pass freely to and from their properties as they please. Also placing a 2x4 on the road is not sufficient enough to advise of a full road closure. Not taking sides, but better precautions could have been implemented to prevent this. Lastly, "alerted as many of the politicians as would answer their phones" about such a trivial situation seems drastically overboard and petty, our country is a serious state with serious problems, a quarrel between neighbors does not justify every politian utmost urgent attention, find another avenue to boast your ego Wait, why is this news?
    • Estate (16/06/2014, 11:25) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
      That's how it was done all week. The road in issue is not the only piece of road that was paved. With all the other roads they could get to their house by car. The piece in issue was the last piece to pave and it required everyone to park behind the road over night and walk to their houses. Prior to this, the persons who damaged to road could drive directly to their house but not once this piece was paved. And they drove right through it to their house instead of a one or two minute walk.
  • Agreed! (16/06/2014, 09:49) Like (28) Dislike (1) Reply
    Ayana I have nothing to add other than I totally concur with your sentiments. I am not saying all expats are alike but this particular case, she is lucky there isn't some type of community organization where residents of the Estate can evict her.

    She's out of all order!
  • backwards (16/06/2014, 10:02) Like (18) Dislike (12) Reply
    It is disgusting, no question. At the same time if a job was worked for me and this happened. Then I was told a strategically placed 2 x 4 and a jeep was used to indicate the roadway should not be passed it would be grounds for the dismissal of whomever was in charge of that worksite. It's fine to ask the driver to take responsibility. Truly though the first in line to take responsibility is whomever was in charge of the crew doing the work and the fact that they did not properly secure the roadway. If they had and this happened then they would have done their best and the driver would most clearly be in the wrong. Traffic cones, barriers and signs to indicate a road is closed is the international standard. Did whomever was doing this job not have any of these?
    P.S. that's how it works in a real country
    • l (16/06/2014, 11:44) Like (9) Dislike (4) Reply
      You talking about international standards. Is there something in writing that says this is what should have been done? It just takes a little bit of common sense. The road was obviously blocked. The residence knew about the construction before hand.
      • backwards (16/06/2014, 18:16) Like (15) Dislike (3) Reply
        Yes there is. One could start by referencing Uniform Traffic Control Devices e.g. a traffic cone. Next if one wants to become an expert on the subject they can dive into the International Organization for Standardization publications. Start with ISO:39001 Road traffic safety management systems and go from there. My guess is “strategically placed 2 x 4” and “jeep” aren’t mentioned. People go to school for this. But all that technical knowledge isn’t needed when common sense might tell you (if you’re in the trade) to use traffic control devices to close a road. The point is when it’s your work on the line you’d like to guard against issues by being explicit rather than implicit. One reason of many being; depending on the common sense of the general populace is a recipe for disaster. Not to judge anyone else but in my place of business as a person with responsibility you’re at fault for not understanding that. Luckily it’s just a small piece of road. All that being said I wonder if the next people doing road work will make use of $200 in the form of Traffic Control Devices or a piece of wood and a jeep. It might make a difference.
        • G-man (16/06/2014, 21:32) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
          precious response.....priceless.
        • Ha! (17/06/2014, 06:59) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
          This is not a Government Public Works project, it is private! They could have blocked the road with a coconut branch if they wanted to, just saying.
  • agreed (16/06/2014, 10:05) Like (11) Dislike (7) Reply
    I agree with Ms. Hull.
  • Yes (16/06/2014, 10:06) Like (52) Dislike (5) Reply

    Where in the world anybody can pick up a phone and call a Politician directly? She has valid points but I only agree with her up to the point of calling Politicians and upset with the answer. NOWHERE else in the world people have that level of access, NOWHERE! You are calling a Politician on the eve of a heated HOA meeting to talk about someone messing up your newly concrete road and expect him/her to just hop into action at the sound of that? NONSENSE MAN! TO the Trini person who talked that s..t, they deserve a hot slap and a one way ticket on LIAT for that level of ignorance.

    • Nel (18/06/2014, 03:49) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You are correct that no where in the world people have access to politicians like the BVI, but need to ask them from whom the receive the most calls.
  • For real! (16/06/2014, 10:12) Like (28) Dislike (18) Reply
    It sounds like the person who drove into the concrete just didn't know it was wet, because it hard to believe that someone would seriously drive their car knowingly into wet concrete. It sounds like you all have a vendetta against this person. And from what I hear the man started to cuss the person when they tried to explain what happen, telling them there was no notice the road was going to be paved, no markings just a car parked in the road and since people just park in the road here all the time, it didn't seem unusual. To keep picking on expats and telling them that they should go back where they come from for every little thing is ridiculous! When you all making your living of the expats. You all are ridiculous!
    • enough (16/06/2014, 11:10) Like (10) Dislike (12) Reply
      You are the one ridiculous. Obviously, you did not read that Ms. Hull said that the trinidad woman must go back to her home land if she feels that this country is not real for her.
      To much expats speaking nonesense at times and believe that we the BVIslanders would twiddle or thumbs and keep close mouth. Never. And a next thing, the politicians are here to serve the people.
      • wize up (16/06/2014, 12:50) Like (16) Dislike (3) Reply
        she not going back trinidad; to much crime in trinidad so them here acting the fool but we must put a stop to it !!!!...run go talk that !!!
  • HMMM (16/06/2014, 10:24) Like (35) Dislike (2) Reply
    I do not think her views are representative of Trinidadians per se. While as a BVIslander I find the BVI to be a thoroughly annoying place at times ie the sense of entitlement of young Virgin Islanders, no public transport and even the taxis don't want to stop for you and lawd the prices at Rite Way and worse these government leaders with their blatant corruption, notwithstanding that, the BVI is a real country. I doubt if this Trinidadian woman even thinks her own country to be a real country with kidnapping, robbery and murder rates that rival "failed" states such as Somalia. Let us not forget that Trinidad and Tobago in a survey in 2013 found that over 50% of them believed they would be better off under British rule.
    But specifically, in this case, if she feels that the BVI is not a real country, then she ought not to be here...only crazy people or the desperate live in non-countries.
  • wize up (16/06/2014, 10:26) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
    bite me !!!!
  • Hmm (16/06/2014, 10:30) Like (19) Dislike (3) Reply
    I guess the murder rate in trinidad makes it a real country.
  • Well said (16/06/2014, 10:34) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
    "... Nowhere is perfect. I know for sure we (the BVI) are not perfect, far from it; but BVIslanders must be able to live in peace and harmony in our own country and those who do not intend to fall in line can simply leave.”

    "The estate developers and the residents expressed their hope that they could all just get along and that persons would have respect for each other’s quality of life by compromising when they have to, while they all live in a community that is still developing."

    Nicely put :)
    • Well Said Ayanna! (16/06/2014, 21:52) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      This is one time I agree w lawyer gyal! Land where my fathers died......
  • Icing on the Cake (16/06/2014, 10:34) Like (25) Dislike (8) Reply
    This is a rude awakening for us as B V Islanders. We have allowed them to get alien land holders licence and then their true colors show. This woman and man need to be held accountable. We cant go to Trinidad and wherever he is from and behave like that.
    I am particularly upset with her comment and have grown very tired of hearing my fellow B V Islanders and the BVI put down by these people. This begs the question. What are you doing here? Go back to where you come from. They say BVI people are stupid and the BVI is this and that. If your country is so much better, you need to LEAVE.
    The immigration do not need to renew their work permits. LEAVE!!! LEAVE!!! LEAVE!!!
  • please (16/06/2014, 10:41) Like (25) Dislike (4) Reply
    Despite the situation, the comments from the woman that the BVI is not a real country, implies that she don't deserve to be living here and she should leave. Expats make more of a living off the BVI than we do them.
    • Gregra (16/06/2014, 18:31) Like (11) Dislike (4) Reply
      How do you get to that point. Do you deport everyone who you believe say something about your beloved country? Last I check the constitution give her certain rights. I do not believe her remarks rose to the status of treason or some other great offence. We all must watch what we say when we are angry, all of us.
  • for real (16/06/2014, 10:46) Like (19) Dislike (2) Reply
    It seems like you did not read the story. There was a jeep parked there and a piece of 2 x 4 indicating that a persons could not pass. Hardly any one lives there and not a high traffic area and cars are not parked there at all. They were notified of the pavng and it would have been very hard to drive your car through that unless you intended to. Think about it; and further the real issue is the comment about the BVI. The expat picked on the BVI and not the other way around and if expats dont want to be here then they can leave.
  • Nasty! (16/06/2014, 11:18) Like (15) Dislike (32) Reply
    And that Ayana working for the same expat kind she bad talking?! is the expat who putting food on she table and sending she children to school. Nasty, nasty spiteful people in Tortola!!! and where you all go to study etc? not in the expat country? and you all always talking about the white man this and the white man that! this seems like a simple mistake by the residents, and all of you have to ridicule them like this, who you think looking worse? Ayana or them?
    • You are very personal (16/06/2014, 12:39) Like (17) Dislike (2) Reply
      That story did not address expats at all. It addressed a particular person who made very derogatory remarks about the BVI. The concrete was only the background to the real issue. Who is speaking of a white man? That is all your thinking and I am not sure why. As to who puts food on her table, God does that. You sound like Don Sterling of the NBA. People work for pay, a fair exchange, that's all. You totally miss the point. A person who makes a mistake, is usually apologetic and cooperative and does not follow the action up by degrading another person's country. I have many expat friends but they all know that I would not tolerate them speaking about the BVI like that in my presence. We do go to others countries and as she said, we fit in and come home once we are done if we don't like it there.
    • At Nasty (16/06/2014, 12:52) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
      You don't even know what you are talking about. Do your homework. This is not an isolated incident with this woman. She behaves this way all the time and she needs to be stopped one way or the other. This is not an expat issue at all. This is an isolated expat issue who obviously thinks very lowly of this country and its people and she has been invited to leave only if she does not want to be here. Don't make this an expat issue.
    • To Nasty (16/06/2014, 13:27) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
      Where do you get your information from? Ayana dont work for that expat! None of us 'work for' that expat. And who the heck talked about a 'white man'? Dang it to heck why don't people read TO UNDERSTAND? And explain to me what going away to expat country to study got to do with this? I wish I could see what you look like
  • pat (16/06/2014, 11:18) Like (13) Dislike (1) Reply
    curious. what is the difference between a country and a territory? I always thought it was a territory because it is not independent. Regardless... This act is ignorance. now the cement has dried with tracks in it. It will have to be hammered out and redone. force the violator to pay for it!!
    • Red Rider (16/06/2014, 16:08) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
      By the way roads are built here it will be broken up by this time next year! Did they put wire or rebar in the concrete?
  • Do your homework (16/06/2014, 11:22) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
    Well well, she strikes again. Not surprised. The disrespect will continue. Do your homework and you will be told about her bad track record here in the BVI. If it's not a real country why build your house here. I'm sure she could have found some more desirable "real country" to build - what happen she couldn't afford land in Trinidad, but then again school children say she don't want you to even know she's from Trinidad. As the old people say "You will hear" her luck will soon run out. Simple respect and common sense should prevail in these situations. Greed, disrespect and dishonestly never has a good outcome...
    • Nasty! (16/06/2014, 13:34) Like (9) Dislike (15) Reply
      You don't know what the hell you talking about...bad history, my backside! I know this person and she is a very very nice person, but some people like to take advantage of that and all she does is defend herself. Everybody knows Tolans are nasty vindictive people, is gim me, gim me all the time. I wish every expat company and people would leave this place. And you 'do your homework' are obviously very jealous of this individual, so because she make an innocent mistake she must stand by and let people abuse her and she must not defend herself! And them people 'schooll children' telling lies, she is the proudest trini I know! Go get some sense, you illiterate &$^%&$&^
      • To Nasty (16/06/2014, 19:42) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
        If you truly want to help your friend you should help her change her ways instead of coming on here justifying her terrible behaviors and disrespect of this country. When one displays the same behaviour over and over that's no mistake. Plus lets be real - you drive forward your tires sink in soft concrete you reverse - you don't keep going. This was a willful and disrespectful act by your "nice" Trini friend - which is obviously her normal behaviour!
      • Lolll (16/06/2014, 20:20) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
        Jealous and vindictive what. When you publicly display your ignorance and disrespect those who are aware of your constant bad behaviour will call you out. This was a willful act followed by disrespect. If you want to be her friend a true friend will confront her on her bad behaviour and put her on the right path and not defend nonsense. You are definitely her friend with your nasty references to the people of this country - birds of a feather all flock together. This wasn't no innocent mistake. When the same behaviour is displayed over and over by the same individual it is obvious that that's the only way that person knows.
  • cay (16/06/2014, 11:35) Like (1) Dislike (4) Reply
    but you have a ball headed miister who is critical of the BVI and say its not unique so what you expect from the island people eh?
  • wize up (16/06/2014, 11:50) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    The bvi needs some serious immigration and labour reform: the matter of good leadership is a whole subject in-of-itself !!!! rightfully said; only a few days before an election you will see & hear from our leaders..some of the persons residing in the bvi are very obnoxious; but i know its just a matter of time (time longer than twine)

  • think (16/06/2014, 11:52) Like (8) Dislike (10) Reply
    before u say expats stop think ,most of the politicians background do not start here husbands wifes children not from here so i ask if we the expats decide to leave whats going to happen to TORTOLA or THE BRISTISH VIRGIN ISLAND how is the houses going to be rented or goverment making monies via work permit or further more do u tortolians plan on going back to the days where cousin marrying cousin please u so call i born here check ur background before u speak
    • wize up (16/06/2014, 12:59) Like (10) Dislike (3) Reply
      to "think" non of the expats will leave the BVI so stop fooling yourself; although things getting out of hand these days non of the expats will "willing" leave this BVI and that is a fact...they would have gone already....listen, things them are allowed to do while in bvi they can NOT do it where them from, thats is a fact( that trini-woman could not have F!@k up no road back in T&T....)
    • Landlord (16/06/2014, 16:58) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
      I am a landlord and can afford to pay for my whole house without a tenant! I myself cant get how these people from the islands in particular come here and call down the place and wouldnt even go to their home for a week paid vacation. Look how farrrrr the Philippines located and they do the trek to visit HOME! The whole Caribbean shook with the recent slaughter which took place in T&T......
  • uh (16/06/2014, 12:01) Like (11) Dislike (1) Reply
    If the Virgin Islands is not a real country then why are you here?
  • CHARGE HER THATS ALL (16/06/2014, 12:37) Like (10) Dislike (2) Reply
    All the contractor and the residents need to do is give her behind a bill to fix back what she ruin....then she will see what a real country is all about. Trinidad anybetter????....wha she dont talk about the last assasination that took place , if you call that real then i dont want to live there.
  • focus (16/06/2014, 12:43) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
    Let the NBA Commissioner deal with her backside Force her to sell and kick her backside out of the BVI BANNING HER FOR LIFE.
  • I'm wating LIAT (16/06/2014, 12:54) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
    The person who said is not a real country right because the BVIanders aloud them Island People to come in this country and do what they want. When the immigtation Dept. step in the Ministers step in and defend them dam Island people. You all need to get on board(LIAT) Leave Island Any Time....you all needs to go. i met a trindadb guy working in the hospital and told me his contract is uping in three months time and he do not want to back to Trindad because the crime rate is the highest in the world. And this Trindad Person is talking about real country interesting.
  • long look me come from (16/06/2014, 13:31) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
    That is how many of the outsiders feel about we locals
    • Gregra (16/06/2014, 18:46) Like (9) Dislike (2) Reply
      Might that be said vice versa. LLMCF. It is easy to play this silly game of them verses us especially when it plays perfectly to your position on the matter. When you act aggressively, rudely, crudely, viciously with your tongue towards anyone am sure they will react to you in similar fashion. Should they take this attitude because they're not from her? Does being a BVIslander give you more rights to say and do to expats whatever you please?
  • Scary Mary (16/06/2014, 15:06) Like (13) Dislike (0) Reply
    This is not a born here, not born here situation. This is a matter of ignorance, arrogance and inconsiderateness.

    Make the woman pay to break up the slab, haul it away and pour new concrete. That should provide her sufficient reason to adjust her attitude. If she doesn't want to pay (and I am sure she won't), have the police charge her with vandalism and assess damages accordingly. Let the court deal with her.
  • Well (16/06/2014, 15:45) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    What a lousy neighbour!
  • WHY? (16/06/2014, 16:51) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
    Why go to the press about it? Why go the politicians? Is she looking to become a poilitician herself and make this her platform?
    • Oh Beatiful Virgin Islands (16/06/2014, 17:43) Like (8) Dislike (5) Reply
      Beacuse when you dont stand for something, you will take anything. She was not the only one who spoke to the press, the expatriate neighbour did, the estate engineer did and the realtor did as well. Why the politicians, they know exactly why!! There is more to this story than is reported in the press. Whether she intends on becoming a politician is not in issue here at all. Her issue was just protecting the qualities of the BVI.
  • Gregra (16/06/2014, 18:13) Like (4) Dislike (9) Reply
    This whole affair is an ugly one. Steps could be taken to have whoever damaged the road pay for it. There must have been a precusor to elicit this response. I am in no way in agreement with her response but are we saying that this response should be cause for her deportation. Last time I checked she has a right under our dear 2007 constitution. Does her response rise to the level of criminal insult? I know the answer. By the way how are we so certain that this is exactly what happened, was her response or not. I for one does not hold no one the perfect messenger. The Caribbean is for the most parts made up chains of islands with only Guyana being a country in south America. She is not completely wrong is all I am saying. It is time for all to show respect, restraint and better judgement in our interaction with each other. Finally it was a rude response yes and an unnecessary one but it does not rise to any assault on anyone in the BVI to be given such coverage. Sometimes we are too thin skinned or big mouthed and that goes to both parties.
  • Dull in a good (16/06/2014, 20:02) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    This woman and others with such attitude Is in need of much pity. Her
    Jealousy,resentment,self loathing and envy is understandable. She is a Trinidad I an a country of untold natural resources , an Independent island nation with racism poverty and daily occurrence of heinous crimes. This woman is a particle of that whole which contribute and contributes to the fabric and makeup of what is Trinidad. It is her shame that is guiding her. A little spirituality and she would cough up gratitude which would propel her humanity to a higher plane. Notice the absence of an outcry from the churches and their spiritual leaders when their countrymen spew disrespect at the Bvi,their lifesaver?
    Karma will continue to keep such places and pepple desolate and desperate no !mayter jow maz y bi

    Ipns thzt is given i. Aido matter what.



  • oui (16/06/2014, 20:13) Like (2) Dislike (3) Reply
    Just shower this unfortunate displaced and disgraced Trinidadian
    with the pity she deserves.

    • @ oui (17/06/2014, 07:17) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
      lets shower her with a ticket back to Trinidad and a few parting words!
  • Negus (16/06/2014, 20:32) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    This is a private matter and should be taken to court. Instead of calling politicians, why don't Ms Hull offer her legal services in this matter? Based on what I read so far, I believe it can be easily proved that the expatriates deliberately drove through the wet concrete. If the expatriates lose the case, then they will have to pay for the damage to the road.

    • A National Matter (16/06/2014, 21:43) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
      That's where you miss it. The fixing of the concrete is a private matter and knowing the woman in charge of that estate, they will pay. However, the other issue is the blatant and verbal respect of another person's country to their face. Ms. Hull never concerned herself in the article with the fixing of the road as the estate has it own lawyer. Her concern was how the woman disrespected the BVI because she was called out on her terrible behaviour.
    • Breathe and count to 10 (17/06/2014, 03:35) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
      Exactly! Not difficult to prove as can match tire marks to her jeep. Sue her for the cost of repaving! Also recognize that the cement transferred to the undercarriage of her car will likely be a costly mistake. I doubt anyone would purposely drive through the wet cement. It is more reasonable to assume that she forgot and passed the vehicle and once realizing what had happened who knows how many would reverse or how many would continue under the circumstances. I also believe it reasonable to assume that she was confronted with angry words put at her and her poor response was made in a defensive position. Had the situation been addressed in a calm manner, as opposed to a confrontational one, I bet the offensive reply would never have been made. I further argue that no reasonable person would drive through wet concrete and it is logical that a better barricade would have related the area as impassible for vehicles. She may just as well have been angry that her car was damaged due to insufficient signage. Either way you look at it the situation was not handled well. You should calm down before confronting anyone in anger. IMHO redo the work, sue her for the damages and let the Court decide if she intentionally drove through the wet cement and should pay or if the contractor failed in erecting sufficient signage and holds responsibility.
  • kkk (16/06/2014, 21:08) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    This whole thing is interesting
  • VIP ATTACK CANINE (16/06/2014, 21:13) Like (0) Dislike (9) Reply
    Ya'all see the mess the NDP created.

    NDP MUST GO!!!!
  • yes we can (16/06/2014, 21:29) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well saw look confusion
  • Be an example (16/06/2014, 21:39) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Thing this BIG! In my honest opinion there is no need for this in the public domain seem more like a private matter but since the cat spill the bean. Mrs Trinidadian should have exercised common sense and good judgment regarding the paved drive way. As to the remark about this country not being real, I was not there and therefore will not comment on why some who built a house on this rock would make such a comment or what drove her to say so. We have enough HATRED going on in these beautiful islands lets us not add more to it. Our natural reaction is to fight back when people spew words that are not to our liking but instead of behaving like them show them some love. You be different and see how long that goes.
  • Ask the contractor! (16/06/2014, 21:55) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    If you only knew the details, you would understand why the politicians who were called were called. This is no simple matter for BVIslanders.
  • trini boy (16/06/2014, 23:51) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    As a Trinidadian myself.......the woman who drive through the cement Ignorant and outta order....
  • 1 (17/06/2014, 02:19) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
    the trini is scandalous
  • chad (17/06/2014, 07:14) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
    Is this not willful distraction of property / criminal damage etc.? I would look into bringing both criminal and civil proceedings against her backside!!! make her pay to fix the road...
  • think (17/06/2014, 09:44) Like (1) Dislike (5) Reply

    I think I agree with the lady's comment about B.V,I not being a real country. I am very proud to know that my precious B.V.I. is not a real country and WE love it so because, if in fact B.V.I. was a real country, they would find --- ------ somewhere months after her comments. Case close.

    • Gregra (17/06/2014, 14:57) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      On what ground did you arrive at such judgement. I was not there, we're you? So someone accused another of something and all who believe the messenger is now entitled to commit some act on that person. Are you quite sure you wished this to be the position of everyone who alleges something. I know there will be people who speak loud of who say whatever and at the end all they wanted is to have the other person thrown to the wolves. Do you have none who is not a friend? Have you ever been false/wrongly accused? It is not a hard thing to do. So if you take such position will it be fair when someone accuses you that the same be done to you? As I look on the comments here I am astound that we have so many comments on an issue we cannot prove to be factual while so many other worthwhile stories ie high school graduation hardly any comment. Go figure! Our pride, our priority somewhere is skewed
  • CK (17/06/2014, 11:53) Like (12) Dislike (5) Reply
    I was born here in the BVI and I have to say that I mainly agree with the lady who drove through the cement. I too feel somewhat insulted by the comment the lady made because of the words chosen however I understand the comment (not being a real country etc). I saw the comment as really saying that we do not do things in a proper way here and that whole idea is what I agree with. I live on the Western end of Tortola and I was driving towards Long Bay one afternoon and I saw a similar situation in front of Sebastian Hotel. The entire stretch from Sebastian's to the bottom of the hill heading towards Long Bay had a new strip of concrete that was about 2 feet wide. Basically the road was narrowed by 2 feet for several hundred feet. At some point along this stretch was a fresh deep set of tire marks probably made by some one who may have slipped up a bit. What I was shocked with were the barriers used to indicate that this was a work area. They started at on point with construction blocks, then some rocks of similar size, a tree trunk and some branches were used....... I think I saw a kitchen sink. Just kidding about the sink.....but the point is I never saw a construction cone.
    I am not against progress, and I am definitely a poster boy for getting things done even in unorthodox ways sometimes however certain things need to be done properly depending on certain situations.
    Here's the situation..... The BVI is a Tourist Destination also we live here and our families also. As soon as I saw these barriers I felt that they were unsafe. It was daytime and I found that these barriers would not do well in terms of being visible by all drivers. I also felt that the barrier would be even more difficult to see in the night.
    I made a mental note of the barriers and I went home in informed my family for safety's sake.
    Since we're talking about who pays for what..... I'll let you know what I was thinking when I saw these items in the street. I was wondering who's gonna pay for my vehicle when the bottom gets burst out from these rocks and things in the road that were barely visible.

    I have a feeling that somebody is going to write be back stating that I must be blind and other things .....
    before you hit me back .... ask yourself these questions especially if you're from here, live here and love here.

    Shouldn't we aim to do things better?
    Don't we deserve better?
    Shouldn't we present our country better?
    Shouldn't we avoid lawsuits? (The West Road was Public.)
    One more thing...... Construction cones and other acceptable barriers for the kinds of road works we're talking about here have the proper reflector, size and colour to do the job properly. Blocks, stones, rocks, pieces of 2X4s, tree branches and kitchen sinks don't.
    • Agree! (17/06/2014, 13:26) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
      And further had that gold Vitara not been parked in the middle of the road, she would probably have seen that the cement was wet!
  • Just Sayin (17/06/2014, 12:07) Like (2) Dislike (3) Reply

    ask ....a where her parents come from are they not expat? she is a direct product of expat parents or is she a shame of that too.

    • @Just Saying (17/06/2014, 14:53) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      she knows where her parents are from and have never hid that. In fact she says it all the time but they have lived here since they were children and they love the BVI and dont call it down or she probably would ask them why they are still here!! She never said anywhere she was ashamed of expats. She was upset with the behavior of this expat. You get the point now.
      • Christian? (17/06/2014, 15:55) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
        And as a Christian the next step was to go to the press about it ...
        • what (17/06/2014, 16:41) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
          You all like to use that. Being a Christian does not mean you are weak and let people walk all over you. Sometimes you have to take a stand, even as a Christian.
          • Mark 11:15-16 (17/06/2014, 18:18) Like (1) Dislike (3) Reply
            "On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple court." Moral of the story: Neither did Jesus allow his Father's house to be disrespected without getting angry. The Bible is his medium.
            • Christian? (18/06/2014, 13:20) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
              And on the next day, Jesus went to the Jeruseleum News Online and sold the story for personal wealth/ego? No, I don't think he did.
              • Ancient (18/06/2014, 14:29) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
                So, Christian, you think it made the bible because it was seen to be a matter not worthy of a wider knowledge. Think about it. No book has been read more than it. Sometimes we need to step back from things and see the real issues.
  • land of birth (17/06/2014, 12:25) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    next liat flight back to your home land,as the bible say.
  • Grand Finale (17/06/2014, 14:43) Like (4) Dislike (4) Reply
    Notwithstanding all that has been said let's flip the script - BVIslander living in Trinidad builds a house in Trinidad and drives through wet concrete road and tells her Trini neighbor when approached that Trinidad is not a "real country". What would really happen to this BVIslander? Enquiring mind would love to know. The time all those in support of this so called "nice" Trini lady coming on her justifying her ignorance and disrespect they should ponder this scenario in Trinidad. Nuff said.
  • ANEGADA YOUTH. (17/06/2014, 17:18) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    I have read all they comments. and I must say this, am not from here. But it's my home now and I LOVE these Islands... Anyone that come in another man country must show respect, and some plainly do not have any respect for laws and rules. I look at the Virgin Islands as my home, and if my country was good I would never leave it.
    SO I will say, to those who like to put down ... show some respect to those that welcome you, cause just like me if your country was so good... why did you leave? Am not putting no one down. But some people need to wash their brain and then put it back in their head...
  • Tilo (18/06/2014, 04:01) Like (5) Dislike (3) Reply
    That Trinidadian went to the UK, which she probably considers a real country, to live, and instead of going back to Trinidad she find herself back to this unreal country! I wonder why? Believe me when I say there are quite a lot of beasts living among us. This is the only place they can treat people as they wish and those in authority always side with them. I pray the BVI maintains some level of "unrealness" because there a lots of people who cannot survive in real countries - that particular Trinidadian is one of and that is why she is in the BVI.
  • tom tom club (20/06/2014, 06:19) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    while the fact remains that a person drove through wet cement the point Ayana made leads away from this.
    yes they were dumb to do it and instead of putting their tails between their legs and saying sorry they became defensive. but in a way they are right. this is not a do it by the book island. any one who moves here has to adjust to tortola island ways. look at the work at the round a bout. no safety cones, no safety signs, no detour , no cops directing and yes after it was done there were very large holes and dangerous mounds. This is the normal way to do things here here, there are no people accountable for their actions because they are from here and that is it. look at the way this island works. you need to learn how to flap your arm out a window to get a drivers license. they spend a million bucks to divert raw sewage to the sea. a hospital that has no doctors, an elected official with no degrees. What Ayana says about expats leaving island has its benefits. The people here can then go back to fishing, farming and a slow pace of life. There will be no lawyers, trust companies, charter boats and far less autos so you will not need cement roads. A great solution to the problem of driving over wet cement
  • born here (20/06/2014, 10:57) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
    after all this she is still not on Liat Sheme on ou locals
  • 2222 (21/06/2014, 16:15) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Only in the bvi
  • ?????? (22/06/2014, 15:44) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    So if we not real how come she still here?
  • silent observer (23/06/2014, 23:29) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Ha, yes, she strikes again. How very unkind remark, that so called trinidadian woman, who playing english, nuff said. Nut case!


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