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UPDATE: ‘Persons concerned about losing their jobs over petition’ - Sowande

-over 600 signatures garnered in support of sending NHI back to the drawing board
The petition demanding that the National Democratic Party (NDP) Government take the National Health Insurance (NHI) back to the drawing boards now has about 600 signatures. Photo: Provided
Speaking to this news site today September 6, 2015, proposer of the petition Natalio D. Wheatley aka Sowande Uhuru said that the first 24 hours was excellent. Photo: VINO/File
Speaking to this news site today September 6, 2015, proposer of the petition Natalio D. Wheatley aka Sowande Uhuru said that the first 24 hours was excellent. Photo: VINO/File
Registration for the NHI commenced on September 1, 2015 and the scheme is to be fully implemented come January 2016. Photo: VINO/File
Registration for the NHI commenced on September 1, 2015 and the scheme is to be fully implemented come January 2016. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – The proposer of a petition against the National Health Insurance (NHI) Natalio D, Wheatley aka Sowande Uhuru said that while the gathering of signatures is going well both online and on paper, some persons have expressed fear over losing their jobs if they signed voicing their concerns over the health scheme which fully comes on stream from January 2016.

He was a guest of Speak Out BVI hosted by Doug Wheatley on ZBVI 780 AM last evening September 15, 2015.

Wheatley suggested that people are fearful about signing the petition as they are not sure how it will affect their job.

“There is nothing preventing anyone from signing up a petition. It is a democratic right,” Wheatley assured.
He expressed confidence that he and others who want change can be able to gather a few hundred more signatures and at that point they will present the signatures to the Premier.

“And I don’t know how in God’s name you could have so many hundreds of persons express a sentiment which is to go back to the drawing board and come up with something better with this NHI and they just simply be ignored,” said Wheatley.

Asked whether he has had any upfront dialogue with Government regarding the proposed petition, Wheatley said no. however he confirmed having online engagements with professionals in the Ministry of Health and Social Development.

Wheatley said that so far the online signatures are around 560. “And the momentum has now shifted to print with live signatures and a number of people have been more willing to signing the physical petition as opposed to going online. So we know that this takes a little more time. We have to get around and get petitions to people and we anticipate probably there are about 600 signatures now. And we want to get more. We don’t want people to become complacent,” he said.

Governor must not sleep

Host of the show Doug Wheatley said that when the signatures have been gathered it is up to the persons behind the petition to approach the Premier Dr the Honourable D. Orlando Smith with the petition for his action.

“Having said that though, I want to point out that the Governor is the guardian of our Constitution and he represents the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and also represents the United Kingdom. One of his very important functions is that he is the guardian of the Constitution. He is also the guardian of good governance and democratic principles and ideals, transparency and accountability and we don’t want the Governor to sleep on these issues at all. We want him to be most present and aware in case there are any slips in these areas,” said Doug Wheatley.

He said if a decision does not come from the Premier then the group can write to the FCO and they can attach all the signatures and crave their indulgence in the matter. “There is also the possibility of taking legal action to stop Government from implementing NHI in [its current form],” he said.

See previous sstory published on September 6, 2015:

NHI Petition garners 455 supporters

- petitioners concerned about cost, privacy & the removal of the power to make own healthcare decisions

ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – The petition demanding that the National Democratic Party (NDP) Government take the National Health Insurance (NHI) back to the drawing boards appears to have picked up steam over the weekend.

The petition was prepared by member of the People’s Empowerment Party (PEP) Natalio D. Wheatley aka Sowande Uhuru.

A check at the petition site ‘change.org’ revealed that the Wheatley’s petition, properly titled ‘Halt the NHI and go back to the drawing board!’ had amassed 455 signatures out of a target of 500. Registration for the NHI commenced on September 1, 2015 and the scheme is to be fully implemented come January 2016.

“The National Health Insurance scheme is mandatory for all persons residing in the Virgin Islands, and, therefore, may result in 60% of the population losing the private insurance provided through their employers who more than likely would not pay for both,” said a statement in the petition.

It noted that the National Health Insurance scheme will restrict choice as it pertains to health care providers.

“The National Health Insurance scheme will more than likely result in the layoff of some employees working in the private health insurance industry,” the statement said.

Excellent response seen - Wheatley

Speaking to this news site today September 6, 2015, Wheatley said that the first 24 hours was excellent. "The first 48 hours was also very good. It has slowed a bit now. We are over 450 signatures. There are many people not comfortable with computers so there are people now signing paper petitions. I anticipate quite a number of people will sign the paper petition," he said.

Letter to Premier Smith

The petition also had attached to it a letter addressed to Premier Dr The Honourable D. Orlando Smith. It read:

“Dr. Hon. D. Orlando Smith, Premier of the Virgin Islands

“We, the undersigned, petition the Premier, the Head of the Government of the Virgin Islands in regards to the National Health Insurance scheme, which is slated to start on January 1st 2016. The following issues are of concern to us:

“The National Health Insurance scheme is mandatory for all persons residing in the Virgin Islands, and, therefore, may result in 60% of the population losing the private insurance provided through their employers who more than likely would not pay for both.

“The National Health Insurance scheme will restrict choice as it pertains to health care providers.

“The National Health Insurance scheme will more than likely result in the layoff of some employees working in the private health insurance industry.

“The National Health Insurance scheme will place an additional burden on small businesses, which may find it difficult to pay contributions to the scheme.

“The National Health Insurance scheme will increase the cost of living.

“The government has not presented evidence to the public that the National Health Insurance scheme will be viable and sustainable.

“Considering these factors, we, the undersigned, call on the Premier to halt the implementation of the NHI in its current form and initiate negotiations with the private insurance industry, employers, employees, citizens and residents and relevant government entities to create an insurance package that can provide coverage for the 40% of Virgin Islanders uninsured, allowing those who are satisfied with their private insurance to keep it,” the letter concluded.

Petitioners react

Persons also took the opportunity to comment as why they had signed the petition supporting its cause.

Akeem Legair said, “I am signing because I believe this move by the BVI Government is an insult to our intelligence. The last time I checked we live in a Democratic Country and this move speaks volumes about the group of people that we put in place in The House of Assembly to represent our best interest. Democracy by definition is a system of government in which power is vested in the people, who rule either directly or through freely elected representatives. It's time for us to take that power back!!”

Natonia Henley said, “I have a pre-existing condition that requires me to have an organ transplant. My private health insurance is fully covering for my treatment overseas. I am now in my final stage with the required test some of which are not done in the BVI. After all that I have been through to reach this far the NHI would not benefit me. P.S. I am already approved on the transplant list overseas.”

Erick Oeseburg wrote, “While I think that coverage should be available to all and that the well-off could help the less privileged. One cannot expect to be force-fed an insurance one does not want nor needs. Raising the minimum wage, or rather doubling it, should be a far more urgent issue that could help the same less privileged.”

Norine Donovan said, “Non-medical personnel will be responsible for making decisions about advanced care. Dangerous!!!”

D. Hanley said, “I'm signing because I need to have a right and choice of my healthcare and not be limited because the government wants more money. I'm signing because it should be made optional and not mandatory. I'm signing because our government doesn't care about the people. I'm signing because I need to know my health problems will NOT be discuss as a table topic on what type of treatment I can get a cheaper price that benefits the government pocket and not mine health and where I should go for treatment. I'm signing because I'm trying to protect the next generation from this slavery the government is putting the residents in. I'm signing because I CANNOT AFFORD to pay NHI and a supplementary insurance!! I'm signing because privacy matters!!”

See previous story here: 

http://www.virginislandsnewsonline.com/en/news/petition-being-prepared-to-challenge-nhi-in-current-form

The petition can be accessed here: 

https://www.change.org/p/dr-hon-d-orlando-smith-premier-of-the-virgin-islands-stop-the-nhi-and-go-back-to-the-drawing-board?recruiter=24828396&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_facebook_responsive&utm_term=des-lg-no_src-no_msg&fb_ref=Default

93 Responses to “UPDATE: ‘Persons concerned about losing their jobs over petition’ - Sowande”

  • ..... (06/09/2015, 11:53) Like (62) Dislike (15) Reply
    Ayo vote for ndp so make up your bed with them
    • Yes (06/09/2015, 12:37) Like (50) Dislike (9) Reply
      I agree, they got the government they deserve!
      • Hmph (16/09/2015, 10:44) Like (1) Dislike (6) Reply
        De boy wid the made up africanal name goin mess dis up for all we. Persons tink dat anyting he say is nonsense and foolishness and him gettin de way off a serios mater.
    • Ha! (06/09/2015, 12:48) Like (81) Dislike (12) Reply
      I agree!. Don't act surprise People, the NDP has been advocating this for a long time now and it was no secret that this was coming. Our memories are short, this is 9 days talk! in a few years, they will give you a plate of food and strike up some campaign music and you will forget. Set of Hypocrites!
      • @Ha! (20/09/2015, 19:08) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        (they will give you a plate of food and strike up some campaign music) ...You forgot the white envelopes and contracts.
    • idk (07/09/2015, 22:12) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
      What I dont understand with the Minister for the subject when he says some of us are selfish and dont want to help others. How can he say that when employers are already paying social security for their employees. My fear is for the small business man. I can see a lot of them closing out and un-employment rising. I would have preferred if they had just implement a hospital tax. Have it taken from your pay check automatically. Small business will be constantly taken before the court for they will not be able to pay...I done see this happening. Why should the burden of paying for employees be on the employer when they are already paying SS? Why the government dont pay it since they want everyone to be insured? They say they will pay for those who cant pay and yet still they telling you if you have someone in your family who is not working the one working have to pay the entire 7% for that person plus the 3.75 for them self. This dictatorship kind of attitude I cannot take. Mr. Barry and the minister needs to go back to the drawing board. The little bit of money they will raise minimum wage by will go right into NHI and our people will remain in the state they are, not being able to move forward to achieve much. My My, what tangle web they weave for us. Lord help us.
    • Faye (16/09/2015, 09:28) Like (4) Dislike (16) Reply
      Do you see or hear any VIP blowing air against it ??? No you dont ??? oh it because NHI was to be in existence whether of not NDP VIP PPP was in power !!!!!!!! .... My thing is, NHI talks came about since '08 ... but what, no one took it seriously !!! WHy now they already invested millions of dollars into it are you to believe they are gonna dispute it JUST BECAUSE of a paper with names on it sayin NO ??? Go rest yall selves !!!
    • ............. (16/09/2015, 10:03) Like (3) Dislike (4) Reply
      WHAT WAS OUR ALTERNATIVE?? A dysfunctional VIP? Please spare me........
  • Yes (06/09/2015, 12:11) Like (9) Dislike (22) Reply
    That's just about the same amount of votes that he got last election.....Lord ayo don't make it too political.
  • political snitch (06/09/2015, 12:14) Like (25) Dislike (2) Reply
    This is not looking good for the NDP because 17 people/companies signed up for the NHI and now 455 signed against it.
  • my suggestion (06/09/2015, 12:18) Like (59) Dislike (3) Reply
    It have another couple hundreds who are willing to sign on but they are not computer literate or don't mess with computers. I suggest you all have to walk around with these petitions.
    • TOTAL (06/09/2015, 13:56) Like (90) Dislike (2) Reply
      Or they work within the government, so they don't want their name on the petition.
  • sugar aloes (06/09/2015, 12:21) Like (33) Dislike (2) Reply
    "You get a government you deserve"
  • resident (06/09/2015, 12:47) Like (14) Dislike (6) Reply
    i moved here a year ago. i don't have the right to vote here. i pay my medical costs out of pocket. i pay my way.
    what the hell is going on here? this isn't really the united states, is it? thought is was the british virgin islands
    before i made the decision to move here.
    • Forbidden Truth (06/09/2015, 14:55) Like (24) Dislike (27) Reply
      U can leave fast speeding like a jet.
    • please (06/09/2015, 15:03) Like (13) Dislike (11) Reply
      what a ridiculous comment, if you went and worked in the UK you would pay national insurance automatically which covers the NHS, what the USA have to do with it?
    • Daisy (09/09/2015, 13:57) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
      You moved once, so you can move again. Plus one year is a short time, so you cannot be too settled yet.
  • VG (06/09/2015, 13:34) Like (25) Dislike (9) Reply
    Only now the NHI is coming to us for a meeting up here.
    • @VG (07/09/2015, 12:30) Like (30) Dislike (5) Reply
      Why would your comment be disliked? The entire NHI was never planned properly and that is a fact. It seems like we live in a society that even if something is wrong, as long as the people we support behind it, we are not willing to hear any other view. Your point is a good one, they decided to meet with the people of VG after everything was already determined - There is something wrong with that!
      • You Think? (17/09/2015, 08:21) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        Yes NHI was planned. It start from 2005 under the now Minister. It goes hand in hand with the Hospital. The Hospital needs it. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/21/ow-lucrative--deals-go-to-firms-that-use-tax-havens
  • YeSa (06/09/2015, 14:33) Like (19) Dislike (92) Reply
    Let the 455 persons go and march to the government house and see who look like the fool. NHI all the way it's for betterment of this country.
    • 445??? (07/09/2015, 16:24) Like (13) Dislike (17) Reply
      As God is my witness, I never would have believed that there were this many people that would sell their souls to the corporate profiteers of the insurance companies and their own greed, and a so call Christian Community at that. Throwing away their moral compass and acting like this. Do they honestly believe that the two Doctors that head this country, have not heard enough horror stories over the years, about the Private Insurance Industry finding ways not to pay claims. They do only the minimum they can under their policy and to make sure they don't send a penny more. They hire people who's job it is to not let humanity get in the way of corporate profits. Access to Health Care has become a human right in every educated, developed and Democratic country in the world, as it is looked on as a HUMAN RIGHT and not something for just the Privileged few. Can't wait to see these names publish, because that is Democratic system at its best.
      • @445 (07/09/2015, 18:42) Like (13) Dislike (1) Reply
        Please do not put all insurance companies in the same category. I agree, there are some policies and companies that are not good, but I have had no bad experiences with mine and I am sure there are many who can say the same. I know people who if not for their private health insurance would not know where they would be today because of the large sums of money that was covered all these years for their treatments and services. I believe access to GOOD AND DEPENDABLE health care should be a human right, what sort of care and access do we have with the NHI exactly? A lot of people seem to be bashing the insurance companies in the name of the NHI being a savior, when it was the same insurance companies who were around all the time providing health care coverage. Where was the Government and NHI then? Companies are in business to make profit, everyone knows that and I agree it should be made fair and honest, so I don't support insurance companies who do not provide the right coverage for premiums paid or those that treat clients unfairly. But this is much deeper than that, it is about taking away a choice from the people, did you have to give up your account with one bank when the Government opened their bank to do business with the Government's bank? NHI should have been implemented to work with private insurance but due to the cost, it is going to be difficult for most people to have both. Just like there are horror stories, I am sure there are great ones, so it looks like you are obviously on the side of a horror story, but don't try to make the 445 out to be evil while you turn a blind eye to their real, factual and legitimate concerns as citizens. Please look at their concerns more comprehensively because they are not as simple as you think.
  • Comment (06/09/2015, 14:40) Like (44) Dislike (7) Reply
    I am not against the entire plan but it need to be re-examined. Some members of PEP don't have health plans themselves and NHI is better than nothing at all. Imagine the beautiful edifice of Peebles don't even have a CAT scan and the ambulance is still taking critical patients to Purple to get it done. Yet Purple is not a provider. What's the catch and what's the trap here. The hospital has a jacuzzi but not life saving equipment. Can a jacuzzi save a life or is it the description of 'state of the art'. 80k a year benefit. So what will happen to somone whosee hospital bill goes beyond that. Alot is wrong.
    • Umm (07/09/2015, 08:05) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
      Just a small correction...the hospital does have a CT Scan...what they do not have is a MRI Machine.
      • IMAGE (07/09/2015, 12:04) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
        Yes, indeed they have a CT Scan machine, however, it is not working at this present time, hence, the reason persons have to go to Purple Palace.
        • hello (07/09/2015, 14:28) Like (9) Dislike (3) Reply

          and is the one the hospital has old and broken down and unlikely ever to run again. Is this all a scam to put $$ in the hands of friends and relatives of NDP. Masses are the A$$e$.

    • ?? (07/09/2015, 09:37) Like (11) Dislike (4) Reply
      How does the Hospital get new equipment and staff when people don't want to pay their bills? People think that once Government involved that there's a treasure trove somewhere that they can keep dipping into. No money, no services, simple. Do we have doctors, nurses and others willing to work free at the hospital? How do we pay them? Pay for medication? Pay for accessories? Pay for equipment?
      • Amazing (07/09/2015, 13:35) Like (6) Dislike (4) Reply
        Knowign good and well that they could not provide the adequate service for WHATEVER reason they should not have rushed to open that big, beautiful, backwards, well staffed building.. There is a CT scanner but its broken and has been so long as that hospital has been in operation so in other words its USELESS
      • FIXING ROAD and BUILDING PIER (09/09/2015, 21:54) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
        Government find money to fix road what ain't need fixing while ignoring what need fixing. they building a pier for tourists when major countries going bankrupt... how come they can't find the dollars to take care of the people health....health is not a priority...NHI is not about giving access to health care...it is about NDP shoveling their $100MIL and counting MISTAKE on the people backs to pay...dem never tell we we had to pay for what we pay for already. no wonder you call election early. despicable and shameful...what a disgrace...NO INTEGRITY
  • Liz (06/09/2015, 15:01) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    Hmmm.
  • Yes (06/09/2015, 15:22) Like (17) Dislike (9) Reply
    You voted for NHI at the last polls. Its a done deal so deal with it
  • WHAT THE HELL (06/09/2015, 15:28) Like (16) Dislike (3) Reply
    So that is why AS going to the doctors every minute and taking ever test imaginable to man. Hypocrite that is what she and them NDP cronies are.
  • cay (06/09/2015, 15:28) Like (25) Dislike (8) Reply
    i still maintain NDP must go!
  • VG-1 (06/09/2015, 16:54) Like (29) Dislike (5) Reply
    There's more to come people, they have just begun. BVI people sames to love sufferation. So many years suffering , and on June 8 you all made sure that u put back in the oppressors again. Keep the pressure on oppressors, the people love it.
  • Allowed Suggestion (06/09/2015, 17:56) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
    @Forbidden Truth, you can leave on a train to hell. Retard.
    • Forbidden Truth (06/09/2015, 19:20) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
      R U just blogging to blog? I was not responding to your silly a$$, but the truth is what it is. U R the one in hell .
  • Listen (06/09/2015, 19:23) Like (31) Dislike (3) Reply
    If the Legislators do not take into consideration this petition that would mean we are living in a dictatorship.
  • not ready (06/09/2015, 19:36) Like (10) Dislike (3) Reply
    Why isn't the NHI website showing up in the search engine? I can't remember the address and have been searching online to get more information but it is not showing up. These are basic things they need to look at.
  • Salary Income (06/09/2015, 19:58) Like (33) Dislike (1) Reply
    Finally the people of the BVI is standing up to none-scenes. I have said it before this method of insurance cannot work for the benefit of the People.
    A matter of fact it is a type of tax that is imposed under the name of insurance.
    Now if you are age 1 to 45 years your premium is less than those that are over 45 years. The reason for such is there are less risk if chronic illness in young people. (I can say a lot on this topic but pause here)
    No insurance company have the right to dictate that my premium must be paid on a salary income basis. You do not have the right to tell me I must pay so others who have less income must get medical attendance. I have my children who will benefit this.
    Now look at it and tall me it is not TAX... if not give me a reason as to why I should have to pay more because my salary is more that yours. After studying my comment then give a none bias reply...
    • MrEx (06/09/2015, 21:57) Like (13) Dislike (0) Reply
      Thats the question isn't it. Do we help those who need help or do we continue as we are? That is to say - if you don't have money for health insurance and can't pay for health care, you might as well dead like a dog. Is it that only those with money deserve adequate health care?
      I agree that those with private health care already, should be allowed to keep theirs. This should be a scheme for those who DON'T have health insurance at all. Financially though, the government might find it difficult to sustain, because these are the down trodden, no money 40% who are likely to default on premiums.
    • apple (07/09/2015, 06:45) Like (15) Dislike (1) Reply
      Good observation, I now greet someone who share my opinion... It is nothing but TAX, TAX, TAX to pay for their debts. Imagine the government already anticipated over 58 Million per annum. I know its impossible to make that much but that is to highlight their agenda ahead of time.
      This insurance cannot work and will cause serious problem with especially expat workers and their children. If an expat wants to take their child to lets say Trinidad or the USA for medical treatment which may cause over $20,000 what will be the coverage or will you cover the cost or will you dictate where I take my children...
      We all know the good doctors from peebles hospital are now politicians and the ones that are there HUUU? God for bid!!!
      • Todd (08/09/2015, 14:05) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
        Do you really know what nhi really is once they cant treat u locally its the government expense to take you where they are treatment available
      • @apple (16/09/2015, 12:44) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
        What is the cost now for Expats.. clinical and hospital services? What is the coverage for taking their child to the USA or Trinidad with 'NO' health care as it stands right now and who will pay for it... (our district Reps. with our tax dollars). It still comes around to paying more taxes to help balance medical expenses for those who have none. We will pay one way or another. It is time everyone contribute... 'everyone who can work'.
    • hungry (18/09/2015, 08:47) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      We should pay to help the unemployed and less fortunate as well as emergency personnel who get a free pass; and yet we are still made to pay double for our "own"unemployed spouses and family members. That's my major problem. What happen to individual plan and family plan across the board? If my spouse is unemployed that means we are already hurting!
  • Enquiring Minds Want to Know (06/09/2015, 21:02) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    Can civil servants sign petitions?
    • Candasy (16/09/2015, 19:32) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      maybe they are servants and not people with the same constitutional rights like we.
  • tretretrete (06/09/2015, 22:41) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    I think they need to educate people about this...to many unanswered questions...
  • VG-1 (07/09/2015, 07:44) Like (10) Dislike (1) Reply
    There is something shady here. I think this i a plot for them to have more money to " borrow " from.
  • .... (07/09/2015, 07:48) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
    We certainly got the government we deserved. Do you all have a better alternative??? Please don't tell me the other party which is a shadow of its former self. So when you look at it, we didn't have much of a choice. So please get over it already.. There isn't even anything to rub in. VIP is in shambles.

    A whopping 455 out of about 17,000 adults huh......
    • Ummm (07/09/2015, 12:27) Like (10) Dislike (7) Reply
      Your equation is incorrect.... It's 455 over the 11 members that form the government. At the end of the day it's not about party it's about having a choice! Regardless of which party it was this is obviously an abuse of power to force something on the country. The way I see it the petition is only the beginning, we need to boycott the sign up to send a strong message!
      • @Ummm (16/09/2015, 12:55) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
        Well then why stop there...let us sign petitions against payroll taxes and Social Security taxes because these has also been forced on the citizens of the country. (If this was really that bad I would voice my concerns but for now I don't see this as a battle I wish to fight.)
  • Guest (07/09/2015, 10:08) Like (12) Dislike (17) Reply
    NHI is good for the country. All these people signing the petitions have limited knowledge of the NHI. They should attend more of the informative session given by the government. Also, there are those who just pre-conditioned their minds to block it and those who can't decide for themselves and they just listen and follow others. Also, if you look at your private insurances, they too will have an annual CAP, they too would have to review your claimes if they were valid and they too provide limited coverage depending on the type of plan you get.
    • really?? (07/09/2015, 10:57) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
      @Guest its not lack of knowledge, its the fact that some people have great insurance and prefer theirs over NHI and should be optional!! Who wants to pay 2 insurances on a small income that doesn't make sense!! People who make alot of money that wouldn't bother them, they are talking about "the just making by" citizens. So you watch what you say!!
    • wtf? (07/09/2015, 15:24) Like (20) Dislike (1) Reply
      We can't attend "informative session"s unless they actually have them. VG get it's first meeting about the NHI 8 DAYS after the start date of Sept 1. That's ridiculous. Almost 15% of the BVI's residents live on VG, and they are just now getting to hear about it. 8 days after the start date!!!
  • hello (07/09/2015, 14:33) Like (8) Dislike (5) Reply
    So when the NHI scam is a failure, they will raise the fees, oops tax.
    • Pundit (07/09/2015, 16:15) Like (4) Dislike (14) Reply
      How can a scam and a failure pay for a hospital? I really don't understand? Some saying it will fail and some saying that it will cover the "mistakes" of the NDP ($100 Mill), be another money pool to tap into, support medical institutions of friends, while still insuring the masses.... Are you people just making this up as you go??? Is it going to be so successful that it can serve so many roles or will it fail miserably??? I've really never seen so many people against something while having completely opposing views...And the thing is they're both saying it simultaneously and no one is correcting the other.....
  • Lily Ann (07/09/2015, 16:56) Like (3) Dislike (4) Reply
    Clear the Newsayers are the ones who have NO flying clue of what NHI is all about !!!!!!!! ........ Just blowing hot air and brining Politics into this..... Cant you SEE that NHI was scripted for the BVI weather NDP VIP PEP was in power ???????????? This is sickening now man !!!!!! Now the Government assisting the less than people with affordable insurance, its not enough .... WTH yall really want from Govenment ????? Struups
  • Dr Who (07/09/2015, 19:45) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    My problem is not with the NHI scheme, it's with the process of making it mandatory, ...I am all for helping the under privilege, but not as a means of a burden to me. By the way where are the good doctors at?.. Definitely not PEEBLES, recently a young lady went to the hospital for delivery, had a C section, and in the process of getting this done, the poor baby got a cut in his head, ended up with stitches....dr who did not even no he cut the child's head, the poor mom had to see her baby bleeding from the head and call to a nurse to find out what went wrong...and where was or is doc who...out on vacation.. Now tell me, DNT I have a choice as to where I would like to seek medical attention, WITH OR WITHOUT NHI...since I am already insured...give me one good reason why your scheme is better than the one I have. And DNT tell me is to help the less fortunate. As the saying goes LOVE/ help YOUR NEIGHBOURS AS YOUR SELF...NOT MORE THAN YOURSELF...
  • Scary (08/09/2015, 05:37) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    When people give up their private insurance and they have a preexisting condition God forbid if the NHI experiences a problem financial or otherwise how will that individual get medical treatment? If Peebles do not have the doctors to give the treatment what happens? Will that patient be left to die when he or she could get care overseas by a preferred physician? Only one life you have . Do not cause people's death by being stubborn and willful. Even if the minister is not aware the premier and the deputy premier know that doctors are to uphold the sanctity of life. They are trained to save lives. They will never get away with some of their remarks if they were in the USA. Be true to yourselves and your. career.
  • Credit to Ronnie (08/09/2015, 08:14) Like (2) Dislike (4) Reply
    NHI, good or bad, I think its a good thing. (Time will tell) It will need tweeting as we go along just like anything else. We have to give Ronnie Credit for pushing his agenda and making things happened, its been too much talk and no Action, The Nice speaking Minister, can1t get pension plan to be mandatory after probation. Can`t make minimum wage increase a reality--After the fancy speech the Slaves are still hungry and need food.--- Mark and Ronnie, Wrong, or right, they making things happened. I respect that. I love the idea that its being managed by social security(and not that hospital board) I even loving it more that it gives the review board 48 hrs to review, approve, or disapprove overseas care---Lovely, that`s comforting. Thanks Ronnie
  • top shelf (08/09/2015, 14:00) Like (1) Dislike (5) Reply
    Are these 455 people are the ones fully insured by there companies and are worrying about the 5 dollars that would be deducted from there salaries now
  • tat (08/09/2015, 18:26) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    Maybe this is one way to get rid of the labor force out of the B.V.I
    • @tat (16/09/2015, 16:07) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      If the labor force can not pay for half their medical insurance then they should not be employed. Their children's medical will be free so what is the problem? If many in the labor force do not pay their medical it will be left up to the country to pay it in higher taxes and that is a welfare system lifestyle.
  • give the Minister credit (09/09/2015, 08:11) Like (3) Dislike (3) Reply
    I have to give Ronnie Credit. He aint just talking, he making things happened, he making his conviction a reality. That`s a Man. Good or Bad, time will tell. I am willing to give it a try... Like anything New you tweet it and adjust the hick-ups popped up....I Think Making Pension Plan Mandatory after probation and Minimum Wage increase are just as important, but its all about the Minister responsible to make things happened. You can give nice and intelligent speeches, after the speech the Slaves are still Hungry. I really like how its managed by social security and that the review board has 48 hrs to review all applications "All" and approve or dis approved. Good thing.
  • Oh Obamacare! Orlandocare! (09/09/2015, 21:02) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    Hmm...we are the United States British Virgin Islands...whatever America do we follow suit....Orlandocare.
  • Interesting Wikipedia article on BVI NHI (09/09/2015, 21:42) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
    National Health Insurance (British Virgin Islands)


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    Peebles Hospital in Road Town, British Virgin Islands.
    The National Health Insurance scheme (or NHI) is a proposed form of National health insurance established by the Government of the British Virgin Islands through the Ministry of Health, with a goal to provide access to and financial coverage for health care services to British Virgin Islands residents.[1]

    The scheme is based on two fundamental principles:[1]
    1.payments are shared based on ability to pay, without worrying about health risks such as age, occupation or pre-existing health conditions; and
    2.healthcare benefits are equally available to everyone.

    The scheme is to be administered by the Social Security Board of the British Virgin Islands. The Deputy Director with responsibility for the scheme is Mr Roy Barry.[2] The primary legislation relating to the scheme was implemented by amendments to the Social Security Act (Cap 266).[3]

    At present the scheme is scheduled to come into effect on 1 January 2016,[4] although on many occasions previous deadlines for commencement have been missed or pushed back.



    Contents [hide]
    1 History of National Health Insurance
    2 Commencement
    3 Controversy 3.1 Impact on small businesses
    3.2 Reinsurance
    3.3 Financing

    4 Funding
    5 Benefits 5.1 Copayments
    5.2 Limitations

    6 See also
    7 References
    8 External links


    History of National Health Insurance[edit]

    Presently the British Virgin Islands Health Services Authority provides approximately US$550,000 worth of services monthly, but only receives about $150,000 from patients.[5] The shortfall of approximately US$48 million per year is borne principally by the Ministry of Health (approximately US$30 million per year[6]) and the balance (nearly US$20 million a year) is either written off or allowed to roll over as uncollected debts by the BVIHSA. Public health care is also effectively subsidised by pricing services at a level which is deliberately set below the actual cost of providing the care.[6] User fees are estimated to recover just 8% of the operating costs of primary and secondary health care services.[7] As a result the net expenditure on health accounts for approximately 17% of total government expenditure.[7] Attempts to reduce the strain on Government by increasing the cost of services have proved to be politically controversial.[8]

    To address the chronic shortfall, the Government proposed devising an National Health Insurance scheme to essentially pass most of this cost on to employed persons and the businesses that employed them. The Ministry of Health developed the supporting operational framework and legislation, in consultation with the University of the West Indies Health Economics Unit.[5]

    The proposed scheme was first suggested in approximately 2006.[7] Whether by coincidence or design, this was approximately the same time as the Government embarked an ambitious rebuilding project in relation to the main Government hospital, Peebles Hospital. The new hospital has been a financial disaster for the Government. It was originally budgeted at approximately US$10 million, and expected to take just under 2 years to construct. In the event, the hospital cost well over US$100 million to construct, and took over a decade. It also costs a further US$16 million to furnish to become operational.[9] by 2012 public debt had quadrupled from pre-2007 levels to approximately US$113 million (approximately 10.3% of GDP).[10] Nearly 84% of that public debt was attributable to the new public hospital project,[11] exacerbating budget stresses.

    The proposed NHI scheme is seen as a way of alleviating the cash-drain caused by underwriting public health expenditure.[12] Initial budgets provided for the scheme to raise approximately US$22 million,[12] leaving the Government still funding a balance of approximately US$8 million. However, the proposal remains controversial amongst the public, not least because - in blunt terms - it amounts to effectively a 7.5% increase in taxes.[13]

    Commencement[edit]

    The scheme is not yet in effect, and the implementation has been repeatedly delayed. Legislation was implemented to bring NHI into effect in 2014.[14] Although the proposed date at the time was for NHI to have come into effect in October 2014, this did not happen.[15] Revised dates have included January 2015[16] and September 2015,[17] although during election campaigning the Minister for Health suggested this might be pushed back to January 2016.[18] This is consistent with press assumptions that, because NHI will involve making deductions from payroll (which will be perceived similarly to a tax increase), implementation would likely to be postponed until after the 2015 general election (which occurred in June).

    Most recent announcements have been to the effect that registration of persons will commence on 1 September 2015, and the scheme itself will come into effect on 1 January 2016.[4] Although it had previously been suggested that collections would start three months prior to any benefits being available, recent pronouncements suggest that benefits will be available immediately from the time of first payments.[4]

    Controversy[edit]

    The scheme has been controversial since its inception. Upon its implementation one news site described it as having been subjected to a "barrage of criticisms from the public".[19] However, because all of the major political parties in the British Virgin Islands supported the scheme, there has been very little debate over the proposals and progress towards the scheme has continued despite changes in Government. Nonetheless, the strong criticisms have been voiced in relation to the proposals, including the relatively expensive cost of the insurance compared to the private sector,[20] the relatively low lifetime cap (and that a person will continue having to pay contributions after they hit the lifetime cap),[20] and questions regarding the validity of Government statistics which were used to justify the introduction of the scheme.[21] Doubts have also been expressed whether the limited staff and resources will be able to handle the estimated 200,000 claims each year.[22]

    Shortly after registration commenced, an online petition started urging the Government to abandon the proposed National Health Insurance scheme and reconsider the issues.[23]

    Impact on small businesses[edit]

    Concerns have also been expressed in the media and by politicians that the additional levy on salary (for both the employer and employee) would depress wages and limit job creation. These concerns have been largely brushed aside.[24] The introduction on a further levy on employers may create a disincentive to employ additional persons and create downward pressure on wages, with one local news website warning of the risk of "huge layoffs".[21]

    Reinsurance[edit]

    To date the scheme has no reinsurers, and has not tendered for any reinsurers.[25] Private health insurance brokers in the Territory have questioned the viability of this.[22]

    Financing[edit]

    The Government has come under periodic pressure, questioning whether the entire project is financially viable. Only in 2015 did the Government make limited details of actuarial studies conducted in 2012 available to the public.[26]

    Funding[edit]

    NHI will be funded by contributions made by all employed persons working in the British Virgin Islands, and deducted in the same manner as social security contributions. Contributions will be based on a percentage rate applied to a maximum of twice the national insurable earnings which was most recently set at US$38,610 per annum for 2014. Accordingly, the ceiling for NHI deductions on earnings would be US$77,220 - any income earned above that figure would not be subject to deduction. Income up to that level would be subject to the NHI deduction at the proposed initial rate is 7.5%. That rate is to be split equally between employer and employee - so the employee has 3.75% deducted from their salary, and the employer pays a 3.75% levy on payroll. The maximum monthly contribution for one individual would be US$482.63 per month based up on 2014 maximum insurable earnings.

    However, unemployed spouses or partners will have to contribute 7.5% based on their partners' insurable earnings. Accordingly, couples where only one partner works will be subject to effectively a double levy. At this time it is unclear whether the employee will need to pay the full 7.5% on behalf of their non-working partner, or whether they will pay 3.75% and their employer must also pay for the unemployed spouse. Accordingly, an employed person with a non-working spouse might be required to pay as much as US$965.26 (if they do not have to fund the employer portion), or US$1,447.89 per month (if they do).

    Children under 18 will be exempt (or up to 25 if in full-time education).

    Despite initial reports leaked to the media that the NHI levy might be assessed for a six-month period to enable the amounts held in the National Health Insurance Fund to build up before allowing participants to claim benefits, the Government appears to have moved away from that suggestion, and has recently indicated that the initial funding will occur from general Government revenues.[6]

    Initially financial modelling (conducted in 2012) projected that the total revenue generated annually by NHI was expected to be $74,308,000, and expenditure was expected to be approximately $70,788,000 annually in the initial stage. The expected revenues were broken down into Government's direct contribution (approximately $39,273,000); premium contributions (approximately $28,825,000); and revenue from investment returns, co-payments and surcharges (approximately $6,210,000).[26] Under some pressure from the public, the Government requested a fresh actuarial assessment in 2015.[26]

    Benefits[edit]

    The following categories of health care services will be insured under the NHI for treatment within the Territory only:[27]
    Preventative care
    Hospital room and board
    Surgery
    Diagnostic procedures
    Intensive care
    Casualty and emergency care
    Pharmaceutical services
    Mental health
    Dental care
    Vision care
    Approved prosthetic devices

    Approval for coverage for overseas treatment will be determined by a Medical Review Committee with five members who will control access to overseas care.

    Under NHI there will be a proposed maximum lifetime limit for cost of care of US$1,000,000.[27]

    Copayments[edit]

    Most treatment which is insured under NHI will be subject to a copayment. The present proposed copayments are:[27]
    0% at community health clinics
    5% at the public hospital
    10% at private clinics in network
    40% at private clinics out of network (plus US$100 deductible)
    20% at overseas clinics in network (plus US$500 deductible)
    40% at overseas clinics out of network (required to be pre- approved by Medical Review Committee)

    Limitations[edit]

    Certain limitations on coverage are proposed:[27]
    Air ambulance benefits will be capped at US$20,000
    No emergency overseas treatment without Medical Review Committee approval
    Maximum lifetime benefits limit of US$1,000,000
    Maternity benefits are restricted to treatment within the British Virgin Islands and to a maximum of US$1,500
    MRI scans restricted to US$1,500 per year and require Medical Review Committee pre-approval
    General diagnostic testing is capped at US$500 per year
    No overseas out-patient surgical procedures
    No coverage for overseas prescription pharmaceuticals

    See also[edit]
    National health insurance
    Universal health coverage

    References[edit]

    1.^ Jump up to: a b "What is NHI?". British Virgin Islands Social Security Board. Retrieved 22 November 2014.
    2.Jump up ^ "The National Health Insurance Team". BVI Social Security Board. Retrieved 22 August 2015.
    3.Jump up ^ Social Security (Amendment) Act, 2014. "Volume XLVIII (2014)". Virgin Islands Official Gazette. Retrieved 22 November 2014.
    4.^ Jump up to: a b c "Fully Prepared -NHI registration starts September". BVI News. 22 July 2015.
    5.^ Jump up to: a b Roy Barry. "Lessons Learned on the journey towards implementation" (PDF). British Virgin Islands Social Security Board. Retrieved 22 November 2014.
    6.^ Jump up to: a b c "Gov't Attempts To Justify Major Hike In Hospital Fees". BVI Platinum. 4 November 2014. "The budget estimates total revenue generation of $10.5 million, close to $1 million above last year's total. However, total expenditure is budgeted at $34.4 million, which means that the unfunded amount of recurrent expenditure is $23.9 million."
    7.^ Jump up to: a b c "Health Systems and Services Profile for the British Virgin Islands". Pan American Health Organization. Retrieved 13 November 2014.
    8.Jump up ^ "$16M expected annually from fee increase". BVI News. 16 January 2015.
    9.Jump up ^ "New hospital finally completed; Health Minister appeals for donations". BVI News. 1 November 2014.
    10.Jump up ^ "National debt grows by $73M over last decade; public sector too big – Financial Secretary". BVI News. 24 January 2013.
    11.Jump up ^ "New hospital responsible for nearly 84% of national debt". Caribbean Medical News. 26 April 2013.
    12.^ Jump up to: a b "Gov't To Pump $50M Into NHI". BVI Platinum. 13 January 2014. "Minister for Education and Culture, Hon. Myron Walwyn recently stated that with the launch of NHI, Government will save $22M."
    13.Jump up ^ Total tax revenues for the British Virgin Islands for 2014 were US$302 million ("2015 Budget Address" (PDF). Government of the Virgin Islands. p. 8. Retrieved 26 August 2015.); the NHI levy is budgeted to raise US$22 million, or approximately 7.3% of annual Government revenues.
    14.Jump up ^ "Legislation For Implementation Of National Health Insurance Up For Debate Thursday". BVI Platinum. 31 March 2014.
    15.Jump up ^ "NHI Could Come On Stream By October; Plans Shrouded In Secrecy - Says Opponents". BVI Platinum. 9 April 2014.
    16.Jump up ^ "Controversial NHI scheme to begin Jan 2015 – Roy Barry". Virgin Islands News Online. 5 June 2014.
    17.Jump up ^ "NHI likely to start in September, Skelton reveals". BVI News. 23 April 2015.
    18.Jump up ^ "Bring on NHI when taxes are low – Skelton". BVI News. 8 May 2015.
    19.Jump up ^ "No Stopping NHI; Launch Set For Tuesday". BVI Platinum. 30 August 2015.
    20.^ Jump up to: a b "More Questions Than Answers". BVI Platinum. 26 August 2015.
    21.^ Jump up to: a b "BREAKING NEWS: Did Gov't Lie? Over 60% Currently Covered By Insurance; Huge Layoffs As NHI Nears". BVI Platinum. 25 August 2015.
    22.^ Jump up to: a b "Not so fast – NHI faces tough questions". BVI News. 26 August 2015.
    23.Jump up ^ "Petition launched as pressure mounts against NHI". BVI News. 3 September 2015.
    24.Jump up ^ "Bring Me The Statistics - Barry On NHI Impact On Small Businesses". BVI Platinum. 24 August 2015.
    25.Jump up ^ "NHI: No Re-Insurers Secured; Scheme Offering Basic Package". BVI Platinum. 21 August 2015.
    26.^ Jump up to: a b c "Gov’t presents numbers, insists NHI can survive". BVI News. 7 September 2015.
    27.^ Jump up to: a b c d "NHI Benefits Package". British Virgin Islands Social Security Board. Retrieved 22 November 2014.
  • Vote Out (09/09/2015, 21:46) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
    If NDP does not want to hold off on this and go back to the drawing board then we will wait the 4 years---VOTE ALL OF THEM OUT- and VOTE IN a Government who will repeal this nonsense mandatory NHI system.
  • Curious (09/09/2015, 22:45) Like (2) Dislike (4) Reply
    Wasn't this the VIP's idea to begin with?
  • NON BELONGER (11/09/2015, 09:20) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    All persons on work permits should sign this petition. It is not in our best interest. Thios insurance does not cover maternity benefits overseas. You have to get your baby here, after that your baby gets no rights. You still have to put them on your time by applying to immigration. Hello people. They forcing you to get your baby here and you still have to go elsewhere to get a passport for your child. that is not humane. Sign the petition. I am not against NHI. It need to be revamped.
    • wize up (16/09/2015, 09:16) Like (5) Dislike (3) Reply
      @ non belonger...you know that immigration trying to track you down all now but you have a valid point; remember if things in the territory are not good enough for you, you have the option of leaving the BVI: some persons have so much negative things to say about this territory but that US- Dollar go them hooked here...
      • @wize up (16/09/2015, 10:42) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        Just becuse they on work permits does not mean that they don't have a voice. Some of us never see reality till it fall on our doorstep. If it is something you come and find no problem, but yes they don't have to stay either.
        • wize up (16/09/2015, 12:22) Like (2) Dislike (3) Reply
          @ wize up: I did say the person have a valid point: just for your information; most documented workers in this territory will not stand up publicly for fear of victimization ( that's a fact) all I am say my good friend ( why stay in BVI and take death) if things are not favourable here why stay: I can not leave this territory and attempt to alter the laws of another jurisdiction but I do understand the argument... The government of the territory have passed a law call NHI( I think it is a form of dictatorship) but I have to live with it because those guys sees it as a "done deal" another administration will have to make amendment to NHI in house of assembly and VIP fast asleep...one love
    • @NON BELONGER (16/09/2015, 16:36) Like (0) Dislike (5) Reply
      (They forcing you to get your baby here and you still have to go elsewhere to get a passport for your child.) I would like to see figures on how many people on work permit have left the country to have a child. Many are having their babies in the VI to give them a better future in this country. (Who are you trying to fool?)
  • Wonder (16/09/2015, 09:51) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Why the Minister Ronnie Skelton did not attend the breakfast with the Premier where they discuss the NHI. That speak so loud, what is he hiding? Why is he hiding? Let him don't listen to the people. God will fight for us. His GOD is not bigger than my GOD.
  • Green Lantern (16/09/2015, 09:57) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    This man is more opposition than who is in Legco.
  • bvi (16/09/2015, 10:11) Like (1) Dislike (6) Reply
    NHI is here to stay. That loser of a politician needs to go take a back seat and lick his wounds.
  • dd (16/09/2015, 10:34) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
    more NDP victimization
  • Guest (16/09/2015, 11:54) Like (1) Dislike (3) Reply
    In time, people will see that NHI is good for everyone. People in this tiny island is very resistant to change and their minds stay close once they believe on something. And yes, these private insurers are doing this propaganda for their own selfish gains and they are bringing this poor ignorant souls with them
    • @guest (16/09/2015, 13:18) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
      "In time" you really have no idea what will happen with the NHI "in time", because there are no real details released to the public about it. During elections, all you kept hearing from people was "show me your plans", where are the plans for the NHI? Have you seen a list of doctors yet? What will the contribution be in 4 years? How long will it take to process claims? What do I do if I am overseas and have an emergency at 3:00am in the morning? You call it good but where are the plans that all of us can look at and say it is good? This has nothing to do with private insurers, if you take private insurers out of the picture, you will still be left with many concerns and unanswered questions about the NHI. I think you might be the poor ignorant soul.
      • @ @guest (20/09/2015, 19:29) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        "During elections, all you kept hearing from people was "show me your plans", where are the plans for the NHI?"
        If the country was so concerned about the NHI the majority of the nation would have not voted NDP. I thought it was said that these educated business men and women, doctors and lawyers were going to bring so much prosperity to the nation 'In time'. (wisdom can not be bought or learned there is only One that gives it to men.) Now all this talk... Stop the Drama and take your punishment like big men and women.
    • wize up (16/09/2015, 14:22) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @ guest: some of us know when a number of persons were against social security when I got started: persons had a lot to say about building the college: persons had lots to say when the Noel Lloyd park was being developed: persons had things to say about the recreation ground development: and way back persons persons had ting to talk about the reclamation of wickham's cay: this NHI talk is just history repeating itself: my question, where was mr wheatley, this joker waits until the law pass to bring all the stupid talk( the horse already left the stable)
  • ----------------------------- (16/09/2015, 18:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Life is rarely black and white, right or wrong; yet such policies falsely promoted by the NDP to have we people to view the world that way.
  • strpz (16/09/2015, 20:15) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    YOU CANT GET FIRED FOR HAVING AN OPINION!!!! YOUR OPINION GOT THEM IN OFFICE YOUR OPINION SHOULD MATTER WHEN THEY IN THERE!! STOP BEING SOFT MAKE YOUR VOIVE HEARD!!!
  • qc (16/09/2015, 23:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    The employee involved in this kind of behaviour need to be fired for incompetence.
  • in the news (16/09/2015, 23:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    In the words of Game of Thrones, "shame" Irving, "shame".
  • tears (17/09/2015, 01:12) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I cry for my bvi
  • Voter Too (17/09/2015, 05:10) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    NHI is a good way to go especially if the policies that you so desire suit your needs.There is a need for more town meetings on this to educate the folks though. My sister has NCI in SKN that works for her even if she travels to PR for medical care and she took out another one whereby every 5 years she gets back almost $4000 in her hand which she really makes use of. Perhaps There is a need for the board here to liason with that in SKN for further assistance and information. People like the now Minister of Health-Hon Eugene Hamilton, Mr Cumberbatch and many more can assist in this field.Call and ask a few questions and may everything go smoothly with the NHI and the people of the BVI


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