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Maduro: Failing to recognise spouse of Belonger is wicked!

- calls on Governor, Premier to address spouse Belonger issue
According to talk show host Edmund Maduro, spouses who are married to Belongers should be given their status according to the Territory's constitution.
dmund Maduro, a local talk show host says such actions to deny spouses of Belongers their status is wicked.
dmund Maduro, a local talk show host says such actions to deny spouses of Belongers their status is wicked.
Maduro is calling on the Governor Boyd McCleary (right) and Premier Dr. D. Orlando Smith (taking oath) to expediently address the situation of spouse Belonger issue.
Maduro is calling on the Governor Boyd McCleary (right) and Premier Dr. D. Orlando Smith (taking oath) to expediently address the situation of spouse Belonger issue.
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – Talk Show host Edmund Maduro has taken on a very strong position where he is calling on the Governor His Excellency William Boyd McCleary and Premier Hon. Dr. D. Orlando Smith to fix what he called a blatant discriminatory behaviour where some non-belonger spouses of Belongers are not given their status, though it is their constitutional right to have it.

Speaking on his television programme BVI Forum on Sunday February 26, 2012 on CBN 51, the outspoken talk show host said that he is holding back from putting evidence in the newspapers and is allowing the Governor and Premier time to fix it.

Maduro claimed that there are several persons who are married to Belongers, some for more than 10 years and cannot receive their status and is contrary to what is stated in the 2007 Constitutional Order which says the spouse of a Belonger becomes a Belonger upon marriage.

“That spouse may have to do something to finalise the process but in any event that spouse, according to our 2007 Constitution, is a Belonger and we have the Government here today abusing that right,” he stated.

The talk show host said he has been speaking about such issues for the last 12 years, and knows of persons living in the VI for 28 and 30 years, having claimed those rights under the 1976 Constitution and have been denied their Constitutional right.

“I will not stop speaking about this because as I said in the last show I am putting a letter in the papers directed to His Excellency the Governor. I am giving you time to correct this fallacy, I am giving you your Excellency time to correct this abuse. I am not speaking in any secret to you, I am speaking to you in the wide open press because you know what you are doing is wrong, and you are the man responsible for Immigration, you and the Premier, and both of you are equally responsible for this abuse.”

Maduro also has a problem with spouses who lose their Belonger’s status after divorce, claiming it’s an offense.

“Why should a spouse lose Belonger’s status simply because of a divorce? Here is where now our Constitution is wrong but I don’t think that is explicitly written in the new Constitution but if it is written, a divorce is a normal process that human beings do when they can no longer live together as husband and wife.”

And for those persons who may say that some of those who are denied status are due to marriage of convenience, Maduro strongly rebutted the notion. “You want to tell me a man and woman living together for 30 years, married for the last 10 that can be a marriage of convenience? When I put all this in the paper someone is going to look like they never went to school. That’s why am talking a lot before I act.”

Maduro said denying the right to the spouses is also hurting the whole family. “They are hurting the little children, the children are hearing, seeing and experiencing the whole episode of discrimination, why can’t my mommy or my daddy be a Belonger and the law says he is a Belonger or she is a Belonger.”

“I am putting it to His Excellency and all those responsible for carrying out the Constitution that failing to recognise a spouse under the constitution and immigration law and not dealing with those matters expediently is wicked and unwanted and I am calling on you to rectify the issue. I know people who were Belongers under the 1976 Constitutional Order, they are still living here and you will not give them their rights. They will have to be paying for work permit exemptions, and they still have to be buying immigration time, money that they can take and feed and clothe their children with in these times of financial restraints,” he charged.

He is also urging elected representatives to look into the issue stating that they have “been there long enough to correct the issue”.

Maduor called on those persons who are affected to pull themselves together as a group, get a lawyer and challenge “the ignorance that exist as regards to your status and challenge the discrimination that exist, and challenge the folly that lies behind the discrimination you are receiving”.

31 Responses to “Maduro: Failing to recognise spouse of Belonger is wicked!”

  • big bird (29/02/2012, 08:33) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Never knew this was going on sounds serious
    • Not2Sure (29/02/2012, 10:58) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      My brother (who is a belonger) married a woman who was not. When he moved back to BVI immigration did not want to let his wife in except as a tourist who only permitted to remain for 2 weeks! The legal position is a mess. That committee which wrote the new rules a few years should be ashamed of the shambles they produced.
      • wongchichi (29/02/2012, 12:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        so what ya saying is as a VIslander I should be able to show up at the airport with a woman and say das my wife n immigration jus let her walk in and say glad to have you....there are rules and protocol to follow ....she enters as a visitor until she does the necessary process to get her status sorted out....i dont see why its so hard to follow some rules jah man
        • Not2Sure (29/02/2012, 17:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          I don't think anyone has a problem with complying with rules in principle. But if you are married to a Belonger for 12 years and have two children with him, and they tell you that you cannot even *apply* for status for another 5 years, and until then you have to leave the Territory every few weeks (with the children) that suggests that there is something wrong with those rules.
          • wongchichi (01/03/2012, 13:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
            What you seem to be speaking of is residency... that has a 20 yr restriction regardless...as a VIslander married to an expatriate for over a certain amount of years I think it is 5 you can apply for status for said individual... I think either you are being ill advised or you are asking the wrong question
  • mark (29/02/2012, 09:30) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Mr.Maduro thank you for enlightening us about our constitutional rights as human, for years I have felt disrespected and abuse by the so call laws and lawlessness that take place here, I am married to a local woman, came to this country and give here the highest honour a man can give to a woman and the society treat you whit such disdain as though you are looking hand out, I am reach to the point where I made it clear to my wife that I AM NOT INTRESTED IN LIVING HERE ANY LONGER, I DON'T WANT ANY STATUS DIDEN'T MARRIED HERE FOR THAT AND I AM NOT GOING TO LOOSE MY DIGNITY JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BEING MARRIED TO A LOCAL AND HAVING TO LIVE HERE. I AM A PROFESSIONAL PERSON, MY PROFESSION HAS PAVE THE WAY FOR ME TO LIVE A DIGNIFIED LIFE ANY WHERE I CHOOSE TO LIVE OR WORK. IT'S TIME THIS GOVERNMENT STOP THIS BS.
    • Fatness (29/02/2012, 10:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Well pack you sack and leave. What holding you back, grab the rest of your dignity and scatter
      • VIlander (29/02/2012, 11:52) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        @Fatness shut your mouth igno. It's about doing the right thing and treating people like you yourself would like to be treated!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now we all know there are pros and cons behind this process. I suggest setting some clear, healthy and fair rules that doesnt allow for abuse and that isn't discriminatory. Not sure if there is any fool proof process, however what else can you do, but try to be fair and balance.
      • mask man (01/03/2012, 05:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        deeds expats always on here ranting and raving about someting...I agree dem need to pack dem bag & leave if dem aint like we polices or hush yuh backside.....
  • chris fraser (29/02/2012, 09:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Maybe they need to et a criteria ..like if they are married on paper but not living here Or if they married and divorce after two years Or if they only just meet Set Guidelines as to who get belonged status....
    • fact (29/02/2012, 14:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      GUIDELINES: married 3 years to obtain a work permit exemption married and living in the BVI for 5 years to obtain/apply for belongeratus. 2007 Constitution states that after marriage the spouse is a belonger these guidelines still exsist in the immigration department. They all need to work to making the process the same for everyone. I know of a couple who have no ties here getting residency after 4 months due to a phone call being made by an old school buddy of the chief immigration offier and the next day they both have residency. Bit of a joke the system.
  • critic (29/02/2012, 09:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    we cant afford to have crack heads getting married for money....we cant afford it
  • Any bomb (29/02/2012, 10:44) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    For real, these people does come here (not all) and marry any vagrant them see for status. Still there should be some kind of investigation process so the legitimate married people don't suffer.
  • wongchichi (29/02/2012, 10:47) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    He forgets how people were abusing the process and getting married just to get status and then leaving the individual as they get their belonger card....he needs to shut the hell up sometimes...the new constitution allows for this thing to be more manageable. And wah the hell he hear about...So the spouse gets status via their belonger partner..when they leave the partner they should still walk around here with it? They got it because they were married and no other reason so if they arent married how can they still qualify for it. And yes edmund there are people who live together and there is nothing there and when they do get married its just to get them sorted out...there were plenty of marriages of convenience when it was automatic so don't even go there. It amazes me how you may want to criticize the govt of the day so you just pick any random act of BS to speak on.... Get married, have kids, give back to the country. after 5 years make your application go through the process If you meet the criteria then you get your
    • the wild thing! (01/03/2012, 08:11) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      i agree but many will look at it as convenience marriages. The who process needs to be managed properly. I should also be a process, once you married it should be an exemption and then they can say you will get the documents in 5 years time. However it needs to be regulated and the process needs to be unbiased. Its a similar process in the UK. It can easily be adopted. You handle the backlog and invite all applicants to reapply. Of couse a receipt of all your documents will be provided to applicants with an estimated timeframe of addressing each individula case. However what I find worng is sticking it to this government. this has been a long standing issue and should have been addressed with the previous administration! its unfair to slap this on the present administration, however I believ they will do good by the people and push the process through.
      • leave our laws (02/03/2012, 06:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        I say leave it the way it is please, too much abuse from them island women looking bvi status.
  • saying (29/02/2012, 11:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well, I came here very young school here. I married to a person who did not born here was born in the USVI got his mother rights can’t give it to me I am a belonger through registration I am happy it happened that way because some of these people who born here and married to people from other countries like to say in the faces of their spouses " I will take back the rights and send you out that’s pi$$ I HATE TO HEAR THAT, that is so shameful I am happy no man can’t take my status from me except I broken the law to lose my status. I am a good abiding citizen thank God. My children all are born here my husband and I are not from here even door we have roots we are not from here and we hate to hear that phrase
    • Movements (29/02/2012, 13:29) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Happy for you...but, "even door"... it's "even though"..I'm not making fun of you just pointing it out.
  • pope (29/02/2012, 12:05) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    i turst that the powers that be address this wrong
  • HELL (29/02/2012, 13:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Fatness you sound like you come out the belly of a beast, you sound so ignorant and stupid its shamefull, keep your unhealthy comments off the blog
  • Mmm (29/02/2012, 13:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    agreed but I will tell you there is always the other side to the story. I know of a guy that married a BVIslander for purely immigration purposes only. He does not even live with her and he has even dated women (who are not his wife)...but I don't know if I would call it cheating because I don't see it as him being really married to the woman (who is legally his wife).
  • talk dat (29/02/2012, 13:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    hope they will not go into this ungodly act of same sex marrage in the BVI....
    • vx (29/02/2012, 13:48) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      lawd ah mussy look where you gone deman???? struppppppps
    • the wild thing! (01/03/2012, 10:35) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      tooooo late same sex marriages already exist under the new constitution...however its called a union not a marriage, but its still the same thing as its recognised!!!
  • O (29/02/2012, 15:45) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    People do not mind This Crazy Lunatic , there is nothing in the 2007 Constitution giving the Spouse of a Belonger BELONGERSHIP. You all must not fall for any and all crap trown you way. Tell Maduro to quote the section of the 2007 Constitution where this is stated.
  • G FORCE (29/02/2012, 18:02) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Mr. MUDURO IS RIGHT ON THIS ISSUE BUT WE STILL NOT VOTING FOR HE!
  • Vincent James (01/03/2012, 00:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I am married to a bvi national for 25 years. It was in the BVI that I lived, met her and married to her. We live overseas but do i qualify and what do I have to do to qualify. Why is it not automatic VINO?
    • WTF (01/03/2012, 20:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You need to reside in the country for 5 years, showing a commitment to the country.
  • good luck (01/03/2012, 04:31) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    give the people what they are entitled too under the law Mr. Governor...that is good governace
  • rules (01/03/2012, 14:30) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    every body for their self no body cares about the rule of law!
  • Sigh (02/03/2012, 16:08) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    ppl need to stop this belonger and non belonger business and live as one. Immigration and Labour if the place is becoming overcrowded set stricter rules and regulations for those coming in... those who are here abide by the rules you met. we are still one ppl. BV Islander or not... God does not like UGLY!


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