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HLSCC students complain of unfair treatment

- said they are being treated like stepchildren since 6th Form students’ arrival
Students of the H. Lavity Stoutt Community College and even other persons who frequent the college in Paraquita Bay say it is unfair that college students are being made to disembark at the security checkpoint while sixth form students of the Elmore Stoutt High School are allowed to enter the compound without disembarking from the taxis. Photo: VINO
This news site's reporter observed that indeed the sixth form students were allowed in the college compound without a search or without disembarking vehicles. Photo: VINO
This news site's reporter observed that indeed the sixth form students were allowed in the college compound without a search or without disembarking vehicles. Photo: VINO
HLSCC students are now required to disembark all vehicles, produce their identification cards, and walk from the college entrance to their respective classes. Photo: VINO
HLSCC students are now required to disembark all vehicles, produce their identification cards, and walk from the college entrance to their respective classes. Photo: VINO
PARAQUITA BAY, Tortola, VI- Less than two weeks after the opening of the 2016/2017 academic year and the new arrangements for the first batch of 6th form students that are currently being housed at the H. Lavity Stoutt Community College (HLSCC) in Paraquita Bay, things are said to be far from smooth sailing.

As a matter of fact, from what our information reveals, college students are being treated like the stepchildren and their murmurings are beginning to get louder.

A bus driver who has been plying that route for a number of years, Charles M. George, shared similar concerns and told this news site that it is a troubling matter for him to be witnessing the way the college students are suddenly being treated since the arrival of the high school students.

According to him, there is a new booth placed at the entrance of the college and busses are no longer able to drive through with college students like they used to. The students are now required to disembark at the security checkpoint and show their college Identification card, searched with metal detectors and then walk to the school, which is a good distance- in rain or sun.

On the other hand, the school buses are allowed to drive in with the 6th form students without any hassle.

“This shouldn’t be, this is a college campus, the high school kids have the preference to everything, how comes they just come in and take over a whole college campus?” George asked. “It’s a confusion that is going on and I think it is something that needs to be addressed.”

This news site’s reporter did a stake out this morning and observed that indeed the school busses with sixth form students passed the security checkpoint unchecked while vehicles transporting college students were made to disembark their passengers.

We asked one of the taxi drivers why he didn’t take the students in the compound as has been the case for years. “The security not letting us in. The students have to come out and show their identification cards,” the man said.

It is not clear when the new security arrangements were put in place and who ordered it. College officials could not be immediatley reached for comment up to time of publication.

Lack of communication

The matter was also addressed during the Speak Your Mind show on JTV channel 55 on Saturday September 10, 2016.

Host, Mr Richard C. de Castro stated that there are a number of things that the college has decided to do, such as putting a booth at the entrance to screen persons coming in and out of the college, and they have paved an extra turning lane into the college so that the traffic would be lessened bearing mind that this is the route to the island’s airport.

He said in his opinion “I think it is going to work.”

Meanwhile, his co-host Mr John Lewis suggested that there needs to be a shelter on the inside of the college grounds for students who have to await transportation, particularly during the rain.

At present, students have to wait alongside the road.

“But I guess all these things will evolve with time and of course there will always those of us who will be quick to blame the Minister for these things,” he noted.

While Lewis said things will evolve with time, he said the problem facing that issue was the lack of communication from the authorities to the people.`  

“Perhaps the problem is the lack of communication, there are things happening where the public needs to know and if the public doesn’t know then the public is going to react, with information, [their] reaction is going to be different."

118 Responses to “HLSCC students complain of unfair treatment”

  • Knowledge is Power (13/09/2016, 10:00) Like (17) Dislike (33) Reply
    The Elmore SToutt Grade 12 students are searched and screened at the school compound before they go on the bus for HLSCC.
    • Hmm (13/09/2016, 18:52) Like (18) Dislike (1) Reply
      No they aren't , some just go to the buses , and some come on the compound and leave to go to the buses , so that means they aren't searched or screened
    • Grade 12 student (13/09/2016, 19:07) Like (4) Dislike (7) Reply
      Thank you very much...people out here just talking and they know wa going on
    • I come in peace. (13/09/2016, 21:28) Like (56) Dislike (0) Reply
      Just to clarify. I am a student at HLSCC, and I do not think we are getting at the real point. We "DO NOT" have a problem with students coming in at the HLSCC and we do not expect them to have a problem with us,as no one should be deprived of an education. The problem we are having is that we were told one thing and then another seems to be happening. The issue remains the same that we are now being placed in an uncomfortable position. The problem we as college students are having is that when you go to high school, you adapt to high school rules, likewise when you come to college you adapt to college rules. We have compromised enough and enough is enough. Everything would have remained the same if we weren't jeopardized by the entire system.

      1. DISRESPECTFUL GUARDS.
      2. HAVING TO WALK THE LONG STRETCH WHILE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE CHAUFFEURED TO THE CLOSEST POINT OF GETTING TO CLASS.
      3. HAVING US REMOVED FROM OUR COMFORT ZONE FOR THEM. (Yes we can't be selfish but when they are given all of this so easily we feel as if we do not have a voice and we are being shut out!)

      Not even in the evenings after 3:15 when all ESHS have departed are our transportations allowed to come on campus to pick us up.

      Please do understand this is our concern. No need to fuss and fight.
    • Anti-Dunce (14/09/2016, 07:48) Like (13) Dislike (4) Reply
      We know they were screened and searched prior to them even having to do classes at HLSCC. But with the amount of fights ESHS does have, the children with cellphones that them ain't supposed to be having, you think that there working??? Clearly nobody was doing a good job. NOW all of a sudden, college students is the problem? BVI GET IT TOGETHER!

      And BTW, these students here are making us uncomfortable. When we need to use the computer labs for example, they in there being demons. When we having classes, they making a ton of noise like idiots. AYA GET THEM OUT! Them up there skipping classes too.
    • knowledge of power strupes (16/09/2016, 10:24) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      this a lie i see kids being drop off right by the bus and head straight inside the buses. stop lie let the college do the right thing and search all
  • vi (13/09/2016, 10:01) Like (62) Dislike (9) Reply
    Who else but the controversial minister ordered this nonsense
    • wow (13/09/2016, 14:26) Like (36) Dislike (34) Reply
      Go to any College or University anywhere in the world and see if any bus full of people can just drive in and walk onto the campus. Why have student IDs if its not going to be enforced? They do not have uniforms like the High School kids so how the hell would people know who are college students or not?
      • Hogwash (13/09/2016, 15:38) Like (68) Dislike (3) Reply
        I don't agree with this. Because, if you travel anywhere, you will see that a lot of universities are integrated in whole cities. There are reasonable pick up and drop off points for transportation, one's that don't leave you exposed to the elements. No such provision was made in this case. ID's are usually only required to access the services of the university, etc. libraries, conference rooms, lectures, lecture halls, class rooms. To simply enter the compound to ask a question, go to admissions or make certain queries, and be searched or stopped, this is not normal, particularly during day time. And we do not have an on-campus institution where students over night where you need greater security. I understand that with the advent of the high schoolers there is a need for greater security, however, it's onerous to have students walk the long stretch to the classes in the rain!!! Try it! It's no fun!
      • Shut up. (13/09/2016, 18:20) Like (6) Dislike (14) Reply
        Umm. At public colleges/universities this is done. It shows that you have been to a college or university. So shut up.
        • nonsense (14/09/2016, 08:53) Like (18) Dislike (2) Reply
          I have attended a public university in the United States and also visited several campuses and I have never seen anything like what is being done at HLSCC
      • @&$ (13/09/2016, 18:37) Like (13) Dislike (3) Reply
        This is not away this is the bvi ... Universities are different from a community college .. Y'all seems to have it twisted
      • Previous Student (13/09/2016, 19:10) Like (24) Dislike (4) Reply
        I go to college in the US and no campus requires its student to show their IDs to get on the campus. IDs are only used for financial aid and testing purposes. HLSCC is being ridiculous.
        • Hmm (20/09/2016, 16:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          I also attended college in the U S (4 years) and there were several buildings that housed the classes and I had to show ID to enter each building. When going to you aren't a student a government issued ID was required to enter, so it does happen.
      • wow (13/09/2016, 19:38) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
        It's a college campus NOT a high school campus! College students don't have to wear uniform!! Why would they be going to the school if they aren't students of the college.
      • Wrong (14/09/2016, 10:58) Like (11) Dislike (1) Reply
        Many colleges and universities know about public transportation systems and allow the busses to drop students right to the door. The college ID's here at hlscc were only used for library entrance or similar needs. The campus has never had an issue with college students entering which is always in peace. They are here to take their classes- all of which have the list of the students who take the class and attendance is taken each time to ensure everyone is supposed to be in that class ... The college is not a big fancy school it is a small campus; there is no need for such emprisonmemt of the students. There was never a problem with non college students being on campus because the library is public and non college students are allowed to be on the so said "open campus". The president of the school themself said that it is an "open campus".
      • Tim (14/09/2016, 13:22) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
        Obviously, SMH, you have not been around to see how these colleges and universities work.
    • *rolls eyes* (13/09/2016, 20:14) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      Retard
  • good news (13/09/2016, 10:02) Like (24) Dislike (6) Reply
    So far it had one fight.
  • MAD HOUSE (13/09/2016, 10:05) Like (33) Dislike (10) Reply
    Up there is like a concentration camp now.
  • spanish man (13/09/2016, 10:07) Like (21) Dislike (24) Reply
    My child have to walk in the hot sun and enter into an A/C building sweatie...Only a matter of time before she gets sick.
    • ,@spanish man (13/09/2016, 13:49) Like (2) Dislike (7) Reply
      Until such. time,you need to get well.
    • kk (13/09/2016, 19:27) Like (2) Dislike (7) Reply
      You are ass Spanish man you need to shut the hell up because you making no sense . Did you go to school?
    • nope (13/09/2016, 20:39) Like (5) Dislike (6) Reply
      Walking from heat into a AC room is not going to get you sick.
      • Anti-Dunce (14/09/2016, 07:39) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
        Yes it is. You good stupid. The child is going from one extreme to another. It's not good for her.
    • strupz (15/09/2016, 17:47) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      so them dont bein sun all the time to parade limes beach etc night time rain or not them gone jam, clubs etc ahyo cry too much ahyo vote them in shut up
  • HMMM (13/09/2016, 10:12) Like (15) Dislike (10) Reply
    less-more doing alot of unnecessary stupidness.
    • @ Strupes (13/09/2016, 11:44) Like (19) Dislike (1) Reply
      This is just NDP throwing cash on them supporters. Its really crazy when you compare access to the campus at UVI just next door. I can only imagine the contract/money on this idea and implementation
  • nonsense (13/09/2016, 10:21) Like (73) Dislike (6) Reply
    i TOTALLY AGREE with that bus driver. they making the ESHS students comfortable and the HLSCC students uncomfortable. i personally feel they should have used the marine center for the ESHS students. where in the world do you see colleges/Universities having high school students using their facility to teach them. i am a college student but i'm not attending because of certain reasons and this my friend is one of them.

    they not looking at people who working til 5 and rushing in the 5pm traffic to get on campus to a 5:30 class u know what that means, late arrival to classes and when you late you tardy, messing up your attendance and the college have a policy when your 15 min late to a class your absent and if your absent more than 5 times in 3 weeks your withdrawn. the people didn't think this through at all and it all goes back to implementing that 6 form toooo soon. you should have let the kids of 2016 graduate and start it for the kids after. now this BS causing a heap of commotion. God Rest his soul Mr Stoutt Probably turning in his grave because of this.
    • Ancient (13/09/2016, 11:09) Like (48) Dislike (3) Reply
      I fully agree with your frustration..

      However, the students cannot be accommodated at the Marine Base because of the other Technical Program that is housed there. So it's safe to say they should have WAITED to implement the 12th Grade until they had somewhere to put them!
    • to nonsense (13/09/2016, 11:22) Like (36) Dislike (0) Reply
      I have to agree with your second paragraph. I used the same argument some time ago, leaving town at 5:00, trying to beat the traffic out and reaching to college late, only to be told on arrival at the college gate I cannot drive in to drop my child off. That one caught me off guard as there was absolutely no prior warning. The system that was in place worked well, there was no threat or misbehavior by the college students. IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT.
    • ...... (13/09/2016, 17:29) Like (0) Dislike (7) Reply
      STFU!!
  • stupid (13/09/2016, 10:29) Like (29) Dislike (1) Reply
    So why now are college students thought as a threat?
  • Legal driver (13/09/2016, 10:34) Like (22) Dislike (5) Reply
    So what about students who drive to college? Do we park our cars on the outside too?
  • strugglesAintFun (13/09/2016, 10:35) Like (6) Dislike (4) Reply
    simple, one fight one offense and you are no longer allowed. If it was important for you to enroll at a college it means you are considering the importance of having a great future which means you shouldn't be willing to jeopardize that future.
  • Bus driver (13/09/2016, 10:44) Like (30) Dislike (2) Reply
    My question is who is the principal for these 6 form students and who are the teachers and if it is the regular teachers are they being compensated for fuel and other expenses occurred.
    What are the classes taken regular or college prep classes and I do agree how can you take high school students and put them on a college campus and give them preference over the college students. The college students needs to stand up and have a voice our government can't be just dictating and the masses don't have a voice.
    • T (13/09/2016, 22:30) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
      @ Bus driver...The high schooligans teachers are mostly the ones teaching the 6th form students. Most teachers commute with ZERO compensation for gas and no word on IF that compensation is even in the works
  • Really? (13/09/2016, 10:45) Like (51) Dislike (2) Reply
    They are young adults not babies or harden criminals. What is Less-More really doing on that campus?

    The college security rarely had any issues in the past, college students fought or misbehaved in anyway they were simply expelled and order was restored.

    If you keep treating these students like babies or harden criminals how do you expect them to grow up to be sensible adults?

    Disassemble these high security measures, make known the severe consequences for any misbehaviour and make examples of those who choose to misbehave by informing the said consequences.

    Being any adult is all about making decisions and living with the consequence or those decisions. YOU MAKE YOUR BED YOU LAY IN IT, SIMPLE!!
    • how? (14/09/2016, 07:04) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      How can anyone dislike this post and all the other posts offering sensible solutions to this problem?
  • welmabouy! (13/09/2016, 11:16) Like (28) Dislike (1) Reply
    This minister Will Do Anything to Make This Adhoc Strategy appears like it's working.
  • Longlivethe bvi (13/09/2016, 11:17) Like (14) Dislike (17) Reply
    Why the BVIS have to be left behind? Security is one of the biggest concern for developing Countries today. Why should we wait until something happen before we begin to put measures in place in an effort to prevent any serious security breach to occur? I have travelled with persons from this Territory overseas as close as St Thomas. You wouldnt beleive they are the same people you know. They obey each instruction given to them from customs to immigration and when they drive they obey all traffic laws. Why cant they do the same in their own country? It is time that we stop support lawlessness in the BVI. It seems to me that to some, criminal delinquency is a gateway to public approval in this place. The BVIs should not be left in the choking dust of our economic competitors.
    • No hope (13/09/2016, 12:11) Like (8) Dislike (13) Reply
      Totally agree. I too have traveled extensively and have yet to see anything close to the level of nonsense that exist in BVI

      Lawlessness and foolishness here are BVI traits. From illegal tinted glass, to tossing stuff out car windows, to overtaking and turning into the next gap, to fixing junk cars on the public street. The list is so long, it would take several pages to compile.

      No wonder the governor said he was amused by some of the complaints. If there are anything such as fools' complaints, these complaints about the new HLSCC security measures fit the bill.
    • Cart before the Horse (13/09/2016, 13:12) Like (31) Dislike (4) Reply
      This is not the issue. The rules were being followed by the college students all along. Now that the high school students are there it is as if you are in jail. HLSCC was accredited as an open campus. Are the minds and the actions of these high school students so criminal that there has to be so much security in a place that was considered safe before they arrived? Are we not putting the lives of college students in danger to accommodate the high school students?
      Secondly, the high school students are leaving their garbage all over the campus. They do not clean up behind themselves and the security guards are seen picking up their garbage. Is this a part of their security duties?
      On another note there are not enough bathroom facilities and college students have to wait in line while the high school girls brush their weave.
    • hhaaaa (13/09/2016, 20:43) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      All the above ingredients are available in the BVI . It just depends on where you shop
  • i not from here (13/09/2016, 11:26) Like (20) Dislike (0) Reply
    any thing funny man is involved in end up in confusion
  • College gone to the dogs (13/09/2016, 11:53) Like (27) Dislike (1) Reply
    Hlscc had turn into elmore stoutt high school senior high .

    This is really nonsense that we the college student have to walk up in the hot sun to our classes and the buses are driving in the Eshs students . i dont understand why the college students have to suffer for walwyn nonsense. they really need to change this nonsense and make the buses drop in the college students to . the security need to learn to how to approach people .
  • wize up (13/09/2016, 12:23) Like (18) Dislike (0) Reply
    Noting that starts bad can end good: the communistic approach by this administration is unbelievable
  • Sigh (13/09/2016, 12:31) Like (0) Dislike (4) Reply

    Complain com$%%&plain, all day long.

  • EXPAT4LIFE (13/09/2016, 12:50) Like (28) Dislike (0) Reply
    I personally think the 6th Form strategy at the High School is a thoughtless strategy by the whole education system.
    the college is already a 6th form, so how many 6th forms does the minister of Education want students to attend.
    further more there is no room at the high school to accommodate the students, and now they are dumped at the college. Teachers have to drive their personal vehicles back and forth from the high school to the college to teach classes. another thoughtless strategy.
    I see a normal thing going on here, no planning, no vision, no insight, yet there is a quest for success. where there is no vision, the people ----

    • wize up (13/09/2016, 17:09) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
      @ EXPAT4LIFE...I personally think this step should have been optional especially for those that might be struggling: change is a must but look around this territory and you will see some of us have done well after being students under the former educational system...what is the purpose of the change because it worked well for many many years(I know change is inevitable)
  • Wendy (13/09/2016, 13:30) Like (5) Dislike (15) Reply
    If there is no problem with the curriculum then there is no problem. Adjustments willbe made about the logistics as problems
    Arise.
    A bunch of African descendants whose parents andd grandparents walked miles, barefoot up hill and down hill and attended school ifthey were lucky are here complaining about walking a few paces when they exit a vehicle and to make matters worse, entering an air conditioned space where the chill will supposedly create a health crisis.
    Unbelievable ignorance!
    Re: security...that is a reflection of the lack of home training or perhaps theDNA imprint which causes and has caused their violent tendencies. Peruse the latest local news and you will see no shortage of mommas and poppa's engaging in violent acting out.
    Even the police and station are not immune to the acting out of mommas and the poppa's.

    they exit a vehicle. Focus on the quality of education otherwise shut your cavities.



    If you education










    No
  • Yea.. (13/09/2016, 14:17) Like (10) Dislike (9) Reply

    ..And when a child is shot or stabbed at the institution we will see over 100 comments on the news sites and on Facebook asking why Government didn't do something about it. We go abroad and follow every single rule with not even a whimper, but at home we at like hooligans and rabid dogs every time we have to follow rules. Then we wonder why this generation is so £$%^" up.

    • fool.... (13/09/2016, 16:32) Like (16) Dislike (2) Reply
      lmao you ever hear anything about anybody being shot or stabbed up the college since it open? no right? alright just checking.
    • sound so stupid (13/09/2016, 19:10) Like (2) Dislike (5) Reply
      @ .. Yeah - stfu . Why would we be at the school with guns & knives ?? Why y'all being so ignorant & negative towards us 12th graders . We have no choice but to go by the college TO LEARN . Get it together . You looking likes ?
  • ? (13/09/2016, 14:49) Like (25) Dislike (1) Reply
    Why don't they just use the HLSCC entrance closest to the Agriculture Department for the entrance and exit of the ESHS busses and leave the main entrance for the college students?
  • Yes (13/09/2016, 16:18) Like (18) Dislike (2) Reply
    That politician will soon build a million dollar wall around the college---ANY BETS?
  • chad (13/09/2016, 16:59) Like (3) Dislike (7) Reply
    Why did VIP give the senior high school land to the water company?
  • chad (13/09/2016, 17:40) Like (11) Dislike (17) Reply
    Right about now college students would make up just about anything to get those high schoolers from 'their' campus. They are behaving like the sibling that is jealous of the newborn child.
  • 12 Grader (13/09/2016, 17:41) Like (15) Dislike (5) Reply
    To be honest the stories are so not true... We barely even see the college students and when we do all we hear is constant snickering.

    We are the ones treated like step children...........

    Worse yet is that it's not only the children we getting inhabitant behavior from..... It is the staff as well!! Yes the teachers and I am typing from personal experience

    And i want tho know which bathroom has a line to brush weave
  • 12th Grader (13/09/2016, 17:46) Like (16) Dislike (2) Reply
    Half of these stories are made up fallacies, lines at bathrooms??? Leaving garbage behind??? Girls brushing weave loool
    We our selves are not comfortable at the campus
    , any difficulties experienced don't blame us ,blame the people in charge that came up with this Golden idea .....and come on this isn't going to be forever , and we are not the first Batch to go to the college we are the LAST BATCH , we are not going to be there forever by right we are suppose to out of there by 2017school year we hope so until then hang tight this too shall pass
    • hello (14/09/2016, 00:08) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
      you guys leave the campus very messy. it doesn't neccesarily mean you in particular but you guys are considered as one group one class so you all leave it messy clean up after yourselves not even the gaurds should have to remind you about it you are grown kids CLEAN UP AFTER YOURSELF. aint have any maids there for yall. The Bathrooms now Even though the cleaner cleans it every minute yall does leave it in a total mess. Yall shouldnt complain because one the minister seems to care about yall and what happens enough to visit yall and ask yall how things going on the second day so he can have a photo opt but dont worry he'll drop yall like a hot potato after only the principal and teachers would care. No offence. But Nobody has the kindness in their hearts to say okay school started 3 weeks ago or more this is week 4 to ask the college students about just being thrown under the bus no one explained any thing to them no one said anything all they got was a crappy email that not even the gaurds at the gate know the protocall that they are to follow this is why parents and students are upset. Yall be transported in and dont have to worry bout rain but the college students have to and also getting sick. going wet in ac makes people sick but i guess yall mentality is different you dont see things from our prospective. I apologize if i had offended anyone and if you have taken it the wrong way.
    • rewrsdffds (14/09/2016, 00:16) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
      there is no problem with you guys the problem is with the new system persons over the college put in place without proper informing and persons who dont know what they are doing one guard is saying one thing while the next says another who i right? wouldnt you be confused? also the long stretch is conflicting with persons personal hygiene. if you walk into a classroom and it smells buck no one wants to stay in there but they have to because it's the only space available. Just saying
  • student (13/09/2016, 17:48) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well
  • 12TH GRADERR (13/09/2016, 17:56) Like (9) Dislike (4) Reply
    lol wait til my classmates reach
  • Annoyed (13/09/2016, 17:58) Like (6) Dislike (7) Reply
    The college students act like we are going to be there forever. 5 or 6 guards CANNOT check 167 HS students & by the time we reach to the college , it's time for our first period class. We have no choice but to get drive up. Long line for bathroom ? WHERE ??
  • BOL (13/09/2016, 18:01) Like (11) Dislike (4) Reply
    ALL AYO DOING IS LYING
    1) there is no line at the bathroom room , it's ALWAYS empty
    2) there was NO FIGHT on the campus .
    3) we dont leave no trash because the security does remind us to throw it away
    LASTLY
    4) yall acting like we want to be through yall ! we dontt . we didnt had a choice ! if we did we wasnt coming between ayo AT ALL .
    • Ehemmm (15/09/2016, 02:20) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
      Y'all really believe them ppl when them say college students is bad company the whole thing is that if y'all graduated last year u still would have been up there through them come on think about it really. The problem is not y'all its the mess left and the nonsense going on at the gate you guys are practically irrelevant. No offence. And guards should not have to remind u about trash you are a human being old enough to know u have to clean up behind yourselves. Don't you have to clean your room and make up our bed at home come on JUST CLEAN UP AFTER UR SELVES NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO TELL U THAT THAT IS POOR HOME TRAINING YALL DONT HAVE NO MAIDS UP THERE! sorry for the intensity of the message
  • 2grand (13/09/2016, 18:14) Like (20) Dislike (1) Reply
    High school vs community college mix the two Chaos!!! High school mentality is different to that of college
    The two should never mix or intertwine with each other. It's a total distraction to each other it discredits both institutions makes the college reverse to a high school settings and vice versa with the high school being in a college setting takes the anticipation of going to the college after high school . Just my small mind thinking feel free to tear my opinion apart. I'm not system mathically learned excuse me just my opinion
    • DYK (13/09/2016, 19:16) Like (3) Dislike (9) Reply
      Do you understand that those children would have graduated already and attending college if the additional year was not implemented? So technically they are college students... just in uniform. College kids complaining about very minor adjustments which in no way shape or form affect them negatively...cant believe a article was posted about this!
  • Hmm... (13/09/2016, 18:24) Like (18) Dislike (0) Reply
    Can HLSCC lose it's accreditation because of this? If the students were left misplaced before the accreditation, would the government had jeopardized the college's status ? Or is this being done because the accreditation process is over?
  • 6th former (13/09/2016, 18:24) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Lol
  • Credible source (13/09/2016, 18:32) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    It appeared that the education department was planning to enforce the security check for a number of years now. So the six form addition was not actually the reason for the sudden security. It just sped up the process to make it necessary to enforce.
  • Yours truly disgusted (13/09/2016, 18:41) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    This is very fair to the college students this is why the implementation of the 6 from should have been left until they had a place for these children ...the government just forcing things on people the people should have a say in things especially when it comes down to the education and well being of the children(those that attend school) the minister is just forcing things down people throat without thinking about how the youths feel furthermore how their parents feel
  • nonsense (13/09/2016, 18:59) Like (0) Dislike (8) Reply
    How come Everything NDP do is a problem? Let the lazy children walk or use the other gate simple!! Really fed up with nonsense every minute!!!
  • Pure Lies (13/09/2016, 19:08) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
    There was never a fight on Campus
  • 12th Grader (13/09/2016, 19:11) Like (2) Dislike (6) Reply
    Well look who complaining now! When the college students were rubbing in US the high schoolers' faces, that WE have an extra year and that WE had to walk the college stretch, it was not a problem! Now they are being treated like step childten. GREAT! But, honestly speaking you guys should get accustomed to this kind of treatment because the next batch of 12th graders will be right on the campus as well. I mean we all have to adjust because next year we will be known as COLLEGE STUDENTS too. So, we all get the short end of the stick. Such is life!
  • Really (13/09/2016, 19:16) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    I have been on ucf campus, Valencia community college broward community college and st Thomas university, all which is located in the state of florida and the only time id was ask for was random stop and search by law enforcement and not at any front gate. this is non sense
  • stop complaining (13/09/2016, 19:17) Like (2) Dislike (8) Reply
    I understand walking the stretch situation BUT If ayu ms ain't want to walk GET YUH LICENSE & DRIVE TF IN !
  • Hmmm... (13/09/2016, 19:32) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    everybody just goin talk nobody willing to listen to anybodies side of their story
  • ICTY... (13/09/2016, 19:40) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
    Why all of a sudden they complaining uh.? First of all it don't have any line for the bathrooms, and secondly we don't leave garbage behind for the security to clean. Making up false complaints just for attention.? I laugh, continue since is that y'all looking...Listen y'all need stop cause we didnt ask to be up there. And either way yuh put it, we would of still had to be there.. Lastly why u get an ID for, STYLE.?!
  • Rational (13/09/2016, 19:44) Like (10) Dislike (9) Reply
    The lies need to stop . Firstly there has been no fights. Secondly there has been absolutely no lines for restrooms,vending machines etc. the only time I , as a high schooler on campus have seen a line is in the cafeteria on our lunch break . You , the college kids are aware that our lunch hour is from 11:00-12:00. My question to you is , why would you then come in and act upset when you meet "a set a lil children in dere"?

    The 12 grades had no say in the decision as to where we would be housed nor did you college students , so again my question to you is , why bully verbally and cyber the high school students who had no say in the matter?

    You claim that we're invading yet the only spaces we share are the bathrooms,cafeteria and science and computer labs , all at different times . Also if your claiming to be mature adults or mature children attending HLSCC you would sit down as a collective group and go through your proper channels to be heard , like the high schoolers .

    "I am a proud member of the Elmore Stoutt High school and with god's help I will be diligent in my studies and mindful of my behavior. I pledge to uphold the rule sand standards of the school which promotes positive and productive growth for myself , the community , and word at large of which I'm apart. "

    Remember that pledge? To those students who once attended ESHS but are now at HLSCC. You once quoted it and lived by it . I plead be a part of the solution and not the problem .

    - A proud member of ESHS
  • Sigh (13/09/2016, 19:45) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    As a college student I have no problem with the high school students, i mean yeah i think it's a bit unfair they get to come in freely, while we have to get up and walk in the blazing sun and a whole lot of other things.My main concern however is the fact that they never even informed us college students about what they were about to do.
  • No Walywn (13/09/2016, 19:47) Like (22) Dislike (0) Reply
    Vote out NDP Walywyn doing a heap of bull
  • Anonymous (13/09/2016, 19:49) Like (4) Dislike (7) Reply
    This is really ridiculous. Just minor changes & the college students are making it a big deal. wow!
  • post up (13/09/2016, 20:01) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
    post I saw on FB and is true

    tbh nobody gone listen to anybody side on the story everybody just want make confusion. but tbh the children have more right to the school than the colleg persons. most of them stuff is lie but all them changes was just thrown at us all in one day NO MEETING NO ASSEMBLY NO EMAIL NOTHING how you expect us to act when we see all these things being change mind innuh i aint got no problem with the people them children i could careless but no high school child should be at a "college" then again all the money spent on that booth, speed bump, bar etc is probably why they cant print paper for us
  • Just saying (13/09/2016, 21:14) Like (0) Dislike (4) Reply
    They should of been doing that from the get go at the college, have security guards to screen everybody in the first place. if they had done that all of this would not of been a new thing for them.

    To you collage guys I know how aryo feel. Is like you guys back in high school again right? Don't mind that just go with the flow guys.
  • Two Diiferent Mindsets (13/09/2016, 21:30) Like (19) Dislike (0) Reply

    High Schools Graduates entering into the World of Higher Education normally have to go through a process of orientation to transition their minds for this different type of academic environment and expectations. However, this minister has made an unwise decision to house 12th graders in the environment instead. What does the accreditation board have to say about this? Do they even know that, possibly, certain compliance obligations are being jeopardized by this move?

    This whole debacle by the minister of education was just poorly executed. Doing "nothing" until proper plans and strategies are formulated-most times- is/was the "best option."

    The children should have been allowed to graduate while the extra year idea was being worked out and all structures put in place.

    This whole idea at this time was just forcefully wrong. The Elders say, "never try to put a square peg in a round hole; it will never fit.”
  • Common Sense (13/09/2016, 22:10) Like (12) Dislike (1) Reply
    Wow can anyone tell me who paying to go to school, and have to pay lab fee for the college? I think they got this wrong but don't get me wrong I agree with the screening but not at the gate, lets look at the facts: extra lane or not traffic still affected, people that paid to go to school now left to walk out in the sun and rain whether or not they have transportation, those that paying bus now can't get full service, and those that have to rush to class after work or after catching a ride before now have even less time. But in the end, why are they screening really? isn't the 12th Graders going to become college students anyway? or are they just screening to make sure the 12th grader are safe? they are weighing one's education and future over another, I don't know about other people but when I pay for something I expect to get it and for the goods or services to be good, and for the seller to be fair. Government and high up officials in Tortola have a habit of adopting crappy ideas from other places without seeing if it's working or even thinking about the effects of such actions, like they don't have a brain to think only degrees that they feel should impress you, so when something is failing they hire a consultant from away to tell them what they already know, the same thing people in the community been trying to tell them. (Open your mind and think for once, or open your ears and listen for once)
  • Take heed next time (13/09/2016, 23:29) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
    This whole 12th grade thing is a mess. Y'all minister in his own little world. I'm sure many of you complaining on here voted these people in and was back of them for motorcade and on fb arguing buh "NDP all the way" and singing along to their " if we want to build a better bvi" bull crap. Who don't hear , will feel.
  • chad (14/09/2016, 00:25) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
    Y'all knew this would happen. Idk what government expected. They made it seem like such a pretty idea, then there was no room... The solution was last minute and now look at the result.. A HOT MESS... And guess what... All these complaints will most likely fall on deaf ears. Fail to prepare and prepare to fail... Sad thing is... Education shouldn't be played with or treated so loosely. Smh..
  • College Student (14/09/2016, 09:08) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    I really don't understand the extra security. If those students graduated the year they were suppose, they would have ended up on the same college compound and following the same rules and adjusting to the environment. So with all the extra security and stuff trying to keep them "safe" is nonsense. Mind you there's rarely fights up that college. Everyone is trying to get a degree... nobody ain't worried bout no damn 6th form students in uniform. I'm more worried bout my future.
  • Not Rocket Science (14/09/2016, 14:11) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
    Being that the high school main campus is the currently the central pick up location for all students, a viable solution to this is to have the children checked through security at the main campus, loaded on to the appropriate buses and transported to trailers where classes are being held. The security guards should then be strategically placed(perhaps in the area of the trailers) to ensure that there's no unnecessary interaction between high school and college students amongst other functions. College students, bus drivers and all other affected persons can then resort back to their normal day to day practices.
  • YMPF 2 (14/09/2016, 19:13) Like (4) Dislike (4) Reply
    Why them acting like when you go to other universities and colleges you don't have to show id's and have security check points..strupz
    Btw walking is good for the health
  • Wendy (14/09/2016, 20:28) Like (0) Dislike (5) Reply
    Oh dear! Evidently you complainers are not familiar with real college,t he campus,the security. The more expensive they are( $60,000+)the more you have
    to walk...they are acres and acres and vehicles and chauffers won't be pulling up to the front door for you to make an entrance.
    Now, allyo are the consumers and in business,customer is always right so hit backatHLSCC with a request for a refund of the tuition that you have paid and in the future,those generous donations from parents won't be coming..
    Schuupps...the way allyo are being made to accept temporary inconvenience,one would conclude that you all are a bunch of obese freeloaders being forced to walk a few minutes in your lifetime and to get an education
  • Human resource (14/09/2016, 23:29) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    These young children too lazy just a small walk from where bus stop to their classes. Too much fuss for nothing, a little walk is good for your health!!!!!!!!'
  • Common Sense (15/09/2016, 06:55) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    A small walk?, every day turns into a big walk, but you small minded people only seeing a small walk no one is disputing the walk its the conditions the are talking about, The sun, believe it or not is hot and its throwing off radiation that makes you and everything on the earth hot, now I don't know about you but after I come from just taking a shower I don't want to be sweaty going to my classes. Now let's look at the rain, let's say while you are walking up its starts to rain and you have your school work, or laptop with you, they would get soaked and so would you. Lastly let's look at the walk after leaving work and/or catching a ride for a class you are already late for, now you are going to be even more late while walking up to the college. Now while late is late, if you paid to go to college you don't expect the college itself to be holding you back especially to do screening on you to make the college safer for some kids that the same age or older than you and was originally going to be in class with you this year but due to the fact that 12th grade came along they are not. By the way, why is there screening now did the lives for the college students never occur to them too? and FYI high school students are not screened, I'm not asking I'm telling you. So who is safer? or who actually paid for a safer environment while going to college? I know it wasn't the 12th graders but everyone should be entitled to it, especially the college students that paid for it.
    • @. Common Sense (15/09/2016, 08:50) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You are not getting what you paid for. Go and demand that the tuition you paid be refunded. Simple...Common Sense.. Let them know that you/ your parents will no longer be making financial donations or volunteering their time...What good is your nonsensical rant on this site where sensible readers have trudged thru ice,snow,rsin sun to classes and also to work? Ask your teachers to have a class concerning umbrellas,raincoats and computer/ book bags that are weatherproof. Lawd man, your intellect is questionable. Hope you are not the norm at HLSCc.
      • look (15/09/2016, 10:37) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
        These students who are at least 99 % freeloading expats or children of such. Theypaynothing and give nothing. They are in this place attempting to elevate their education to a HighSchool level in order that they attempt college. College will be a bottom rung unknown entity. If hired,their salaries willbe subpar and based on the illogical reasonings logic demonstrated in these blogs one can understand why.







  • get use to it (16/09/2016, 18:53) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    the minister aint start the proposed buildings in the Eshs .................. so the 12th grader them going be there for generations ......smh


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