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FATCA reporting out of scope of gov’t – Wheatley

- says gov’t has its hands full with other issues.
Government has its hands full with the issues for which it should be concerned, dealing with the people of this territory, Mr Wheatley said. Photo: VINO/File
Commentator Douglas Wheatley has taken issue with the government’s intention to facilitate reporting related to the Foreign Accounts Tax Compliance Act [FATCA] for citizens of the United States (US), positing that it is outside the scope of the Virgin Islands (VI) government. Photo: VINO/File
Commentator Douglas Wheatley has taken issue with the government’s intention to facilitate reporting related to the Foreign Accounts Tax Compliance Act [FATCA] for citizens of the United States (US), positing that it is outside the scope of the Virgin Islands (VI) government. Photo: VINO/File
It was made absolutely clear that with the implementation of FATCA, the Virgin Islands Financial Services will have added financial burdens on its hands with having to employ additional human and other resources. Photo: VINO/File
It was made absolutely clear that with the implementation of FATCA, the Virgin Islands Financial Services will have added financial burdens on its hands with having to employ additional human and other resources. Photo: VINO/File
This was revealed at a press conference on September 20, 2013 which was called to give a feed back on the two-day “Talk About” FATCA, which featured presentations by FATCA specialist at KPMG Mr Doug Harrell and Financial Secretary, Mr Neil M. Smith (pictured above). Photo: VINO/File
This was revealed at a press conference on September 20, 2013 which was called to give a feed back on the two-day “Talk About” FATCA, which featured presentations by FATCA specialist at KPMG Mr Doug Harrell and Financial Secretary, Mr Neil M. Smith (pictured above). Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – Commentator Douglas Wheatley has taken issue with the government’s intention to facilitate reporting related to the Foreign Accounts Tax Compliance Act [FATCA] for citizens of the United States (US), positing that it is outside the scope of the Virgin Islands (VI) government.

“I find it very, very difficult to understand why our government feels that they ought to be involved in this [FATCA reporting] process at all,” Wheatley said on the Speak Out BVI programme aired on September 24, 2013.

While noting that he may need to take a second look at the information at hand, the commentator said he had some difficulty with the VI seeking to facilitate financial institutions in supplying information to the United States (US) concerning the holdings of American citizens and green card holders.

He added that there was obviously an obligation on the part of financial institutions and on the part of US passport holders and green card holders to provide the information required to the IRS. Some persons, Mr Wheatley said, because of their earnings are not required to submit any taxes but they are all required to file with the IRS.

“It seems to me, our government, I think it has its hands full with the issues for which it should be concerned, dealing with the people of this territory and I just don’t think it is a wise thing for them to go outside of that realm and to get into something that does not really concern them,” Mr Wheatley said.

It was made absolutely clear that with the implementation of FATCA, the Virgin Islands Financial Services will have added financial burdens on its hands with having to employ additional human and other resources.

This was revealed at a press conference on September 20, 2013 which was called to give a feed back on the two-day “Talk About” FATCA, which featured presentations by FATCA specialist at KPMG Mr Doug Harrell and Financial Secretary, Mr Neil M. Smith.

“We are thinking of course that the process is going to be a straightforward one, there aren’t. going to be any hiccups, there aren’t going to be any queries… but there might well be,” he said.

18 Responses to “FATCA reporting out of scope of gov’t – Wheatley”

  • Finance (25/09/2013, 12:54) Like (0) Dislike (5) Reply

    Why Doug and others don't ask questions and do research before asking bull...t?? I guess when FSC was being set up to take Financial Services from under Ministry of Finance this is how he felt? Doug, the business world, yes I SAID WORLD, is moving and we need to keep up. Everything doesn't evolve around BVI. FATCA is a worldwide issue and we cannot escape it. The Government is doing the right thing with the IGA and if you had a clue what it was all about then you would know that too. All you and your son do is up and down causing a set of confusion and poisoning the minds of a few, all in the name of politics.  SCHUPS.

    • 3rd World Cop (25/09/2013, 18:54) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      Doug is right on this issue. Your understanding of global politics needs improvement.
      • man made (25/09/2013, 20:08) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        This is the point of the USA Constitution, as stated in its preamble, "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."..it was not made for the BVI
  • fish (25/09/2013, 12:58) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well they trying their best to change the subject and not do the people business that all
  • Fed Up (25/09/2013, 13:06) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    I agree with Doug this should be a definite no no...!
  • ---------------- (25/09/2013, 13:10) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Whomever came up with this ill-conceived idea to waste our government time with this USA law? and how a usually astute and well reasoned people got caught up in such an untenable situation!?.
  • Sell out (25/09/2013, 13:16) Like (10) Dislike (1) Reply
    I call this whole thing a big sell out by Dr. Smith. Let the U.S. citizens be held by the U.S government for reporting their own earnings and assets that they have outside the U.S. This is crap. This will eventually place an additional burden on the finances of the Territory including a new office or unit to deal with this. Is Uncle Sam going to pick up this tab for rent and payment of staff. This is like ass kissing. Who is Dr. Smith trying to please? Now imagine this - we are always behind in everything. Up to now we can't get the info on the census. So what when the U.S feel it necessary to penalize the BVI for late reporting of this information (since the BVI have offered to give the information), what will the price be? I think we are getting way over our heads in this one. The requirement is on U.S citizens and not on the BVI government. Our own house need to clean up first.
    • @ sell out (25/09/2013, 19:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You don't even have respect for your own self whoever you are!!! Is this any way to address the matter or anyone whether or not they are the premier. A lot of you who come on these posts are beyond disrespectful. But you are not disrespecting anyone but yourself!!
  • I agree (25/09/2013, 14:03) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply

    @ Sell out, I totally agree with you. Well said. How I see it, the NDP making sure they get unseat next election. They doing every blasted thing backwards and without due consideration. The .......... premier don't even know how we get black listed with France. We going get black listed with U.S too. He don't have a clue what he up against. Not a clue. Keep out of what don't concern you boss.

  • time will tell (25/09/2013, 15:00) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    So when election comes around, vote them out and you ALL will realize that this has nothing to do with NDP or VIP. It is a law drafted by the USA to ensure they collect from bad minded people who have not been paying taxes for many many years. Some of you are small minded and uneducated you can't see anything but your own stupidity. Keep it up is all I have to say..Time Will Tell soon enough..
  • black (25/09/2013, 15:40) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    we must get involve Doug or else we would be black listed
  • reality (25/09/2013, 15:45) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    To sell out and I agree, I guess all the other countries trying to protect their financial services by agreeing to the same IGA are sell outs too? You all are so see-through. If this was Fahie or Fraser they would be lauded as visionaries. They were hoisted on the podium for signing a record number of TIEAs which amounts to the same damn thing. If you have a TIEA with any country, who do they send requests too? Isn't Government? Doesn't it take officers being paid by Government to attend to those very requests? You all are not fooling anyone with your drivel, this twist and turn of things won't work anymore, people can see it for what it is. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Politics will be to the undoing of this Country. What can VIP, NDP or PPA do about FATCA? Not a god damn thing except what Doc just did!!
    • Ha Ha (25/09/2013, 22:29) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @Reality, why don't you quit? who is paying you to be here blabbing for the NDP? If TIEA and FATCA is the same, we already have a TIEA with the US, why are we getting FATCA? They are two very different things. FATCA is between the United States and its Citizens. Tell your Premier to stay out of it.
    • Clueless (26/09/2013, 00:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Yea, but he went beyond what was required. He overcompensate and the citizens will pay for it dearly. The U.S. Treasury already provides a website for the institutions and individuals to register and report. He should have let these private institutions assume the administrative cost and risk of reporting. When there are errors and deletions in the data similar to the issues with responding to France, the same institutions will point their fingers back at government and say we delivered the data to them complete and on time, but we don't know what they did with it. Then BvI government will then be penalized rather than the institutions our dear premier though he was helping or protecting rather.
  • Well Well (25/09/2013, 16:05) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    So its ok for everyone here to have U.S. rights use it when necessary (medical etc) and make no contributions whatsoever. Decent Christian community...i wonder
  • Really? (25/09/2013, 19:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    What makes me laugh here is, if Dr Smith played ignorant and told the USA "PISS OFF, we are not doing anything about no damn FATCA!" Doug and the likes of Edmund would be ranting so hard they would burst one or two veins. They would be asking what kind of leader we have that would allow our Territory to be blacklisted by the economic giant, USA, whose currency we use as our own main currency. How could Dr Smith put our Financial Services which accounts for 60cents of every $1 made in this country. NDP need to go, they need to go, this will kill the country. But here it is, Doc and his team made the obvious choice to do the IGA and comply, and they still complain. ANd you all wonder what killing this country? Hmmm.
  • Clueless (25/09/2013, 23:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    I agree with Mr. Wheatley. I posted this earlier on when our dear Premier got out ahead of himself or rather his advisors caused him to get a head of himself. Most of these institutions are most likely already a party to the USA bank secrecy rules. He did the right thing by signing the agreement if he's done it already. However it is the wrong decision to burden the local citizenry with the responsibility of coming up with the mechanism for the institutions to report to treasury. That is a private responsibility, not Government.

    It will require enormous risk assumption on the BVI governments part. It is bad enough the BVI could not fulfill its responsibility with France now he's added the USA and the risk has gone up. What about banking client privacy. Who will protect their data and privacy? It s an all around bad decision to accept the reporting role. No other sensible government would do this.

    Today in another article he stated that he will not report landholding, but if US taxpayers request voluntary disclosure they will have to report their assets. He needs to stop talking until they know what they are doing.
  • USD (26/09/2013, 06:13) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    While we are at it shall we tell America we will let them use their own currency as well? We stand in a very difficult position and a position where we can lose an awful lot. If so many "BVIslanders" hadn't have been born over there this would not be such a big issue.


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