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Expats children’s birthrights up for Constitutional Review talks- Premier Smith

Premier Dr The Hon D. Orlando Smith said the issue of rights for children born to expatriates in the Virgin Islands will be a topic for discussion when Consitutional Review consultations begin. Photo: VINO
Natalio D. Wheatley aka Sowande Uhuru (right), during a recent talk show, blasted the Minister for Education and Culture Hon Myron V. Walwyn for 'usurping his authority' as it relates to speaking on the matter of rights for children born in the Virgin Islands to expatriates. Photo: VINO/File
Natalio D. Wheatley aka Sowande Uhuru (right), during a recent talk show, blasted the Minister for Education and Culture Hon Myron V. Walwyn for 'usurping his authority' as it relates to speaking on the matter of rights for children born in the Virgin Islands to expatriates. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – It has been a ‘hot’ topic recently in the House of Assembly about expatriates’ children ‘born here’ being deprived immediate citizenship because of the British Nationality Act.

It was a topic raised previously by Premier and Minister of Finance Dr The Honourable D. Orlando Smith, but elaborated with much emotion by Minister for Education and Culture Honourable Myron V. Walwyn who appealed to his fellow legislators to present the British Nationality Act for revision as part of the upcoming constitutional review.

“The same way you can go and talk about dealing with the constitution and reviewing the constitution, go to Britain and ask them to re-negotiate some of the terms in the British Nationality Act,” Hon Walwyn had said.

“We all in here (HoA) should feel ashamed about it. That children who are born in this country are being treated this way, and we are not doing anything about it,” Hon Walwyn stated.

The Minister had also said it was unfair that a child could be born in "Timbuktu" but if adopted by Virgin Islander parents that child would be given all the rights as a Virgin Islander but a child born here is not.

Hon Walwyn out of place?

Despite it being a legitimate topic, Natalio D. Wheatley aka Sowande Uhuru, during a recent talk show, blasted the minister for “usurping his authority” as it relates to speaking on the matter. Mr Wheatley contended that the Premier had already spoken on the topic, giving a position, and Hon Walwyn was ‘out of place’ in picking it up after Premier Smith would have spoken on it.

Nonetheless, the topic will be on the agenda at the upcoming constitutional review meetings to be held across the territory, a confirmation made by Premier Dr D Orlando Smith, yesterday October 12, 2016 as he responded to a question at press conference held at his Road Town offices.

A political response was given to the reporter who asked the premier if he thought the legislation requires serious consideration among the topics of proposed changes that will be put to the UK for approval next year.

“Anything which is being used for quite a number of years needs to be reviewed regularly. So naturally that (British Nationality Act) would need to be reviewed, and it would come up during our discussions as we go towards the discussions with the United Kingdom on the constitutional reform,” Premier Smith said.

He continued, “I am saying that it would be part of the discussion because we want to look at the whole relationship with the United Kingdom, and that includes how the British Nationality Act works.”

30 Responses to “Expats children’s birthrights up for Constitutional Review talks- Premier Smith”

  • bull shiggidy (13/10/2016, 11:55) Like (5) Dislike (17) Reply
    Hot topic what? All them island people trying to look out for each other!
    • wize up (13/10/2016, 12:46) Like (19) Dislike (0) Reply
      @ bull shiggidy: so what the other races doing if not looking out for each other....it's so funny the blacks always gets the blame: we walking down the street police will quicker stop and search us and let the other races walk freely......the other folks come here taking over but only the negros are the issue
    • apple (13/10/2016, 18:28) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
      BVIlanders am appealing to all, Please treat children who are born of outsiders fairly. In the long run the islanders are educating their children seriously. Some are studying Law and Medicine. Lets see who will be running this territory in the next 20 years. Keep complaining and don't advance your self.
  • dog (13/10/2016, 12:08) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
    Myron trying hard to remain relevant
    • tretretrete (13/10/2016, 12:40) Like (5) Dislike (4) Reply
      Myron is a born Tolian
    • long over due. (13/10/2016, 12:47) Like (19) Dislike (2) Reply
      It's not about Island people. It's about good and bad people...what's right and whats wrong . giving to others what we don't want for ourselves.. This discussion is long over due. Hope it produce fruits.
    • Bias (13/10/2016, 12:49) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
      he suppose to be the voice of the people (not only island people)
  • Hmmmm (13/10/2016, 12:42) Like (27) Dislike (4) Reply
    A lot of all you Tolian the run to the US to get you all kids . I don't see the US denying them of their birth rights...
    • what (13/10/2016, 15:48) Like (5) Dislike (7) Reply
      Let me fix you, I'm a born BVIslander and I chose to have my children right here. No disrespect to the US but I am happy with being and having my children under my British Status and I'm sure a lot of other BVIslanders feel the same.
    • AintFromHay (16/10/2016, 22:41) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
      OMG - so well said! Bwoy they all are hypocrites! Run guh Puerto Rico, Miami and USVI to have their kids and get the passport right away but a man from outside born here cannot be considered the same thing they run to the US for? How hypocritical!!!!
  • street reporter. (13/10/2016, 12:51) Like (13) Dislike (4) Reply
    I agree with this move. One stipulation though. A woman must dwell in the BVI 3 consecutive yrs before getting pregnant . we just don't want them to come breed----Come breed.. No, we need then to have residential stability before getting pregnant.
    • born here... (13/10/2016, 13:18) Like (15) Dislike (3) Reply
      So in other words you're proposing that we turn this into a country where we dictate to people when the should get pregnant? How about you tell that to America while you're at it so that all the BVIslanders that go to US territories to give birth to their children could have to face the same stipulations.
      • BS (14/10/2016, 08:53) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
        We're not dictating when people can get pregnant. We're dictating when their child has the right to become a British overseas territory citizen. People just want to come into the country, have their child and think that will make their child a British national. Then they leave and gone UK or wherever with their child. Then when it's time for scholarships, check them back in the country, but they running Miss BVI, to get scholarship. Or applying for scholarships through the government.
    • For Real? (17/10/2016, 18:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You mean like people need to before going to PR or st thomas to have a baby? Really?
  • straight talk (13/10/2016, 13:02) Like (18) Dislike (0) Reply
    How about he look into work permit exemption 20 years before you can apply for exemption and same 20 years to apply for residency status??/
  • Really (13/10/2016, 13:05) Like (11) Dislike (6) Reply
    Some you guys need to shut your ass .each and everyone of you guys going to st.thomas .Rico .America getting kids and getting passport he same time so why who born here can't get there's regardless of what .set of bad mine people .
    • John (13/10/2016, 20:57) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
      America is a country for and by foreigners. Native Americans have no say in the running of America. It was set up to exclude the natives. No other country in the world has those policies. You should go to America to have your babies. The BVI does not owe them citizenship.
  • here me from (13/10/2016, 15:30) Like (2) Dislike (4) Reply
    Leave it just so
  • son of the soil (13/10/2016, 19:00) Like (4) Dislike (12) Reply
    Those island people want to use those babies as anchors so that they could live here forever. They are not bvislanders they are anchor babies.
  • mason El. (13/10/2016, 20:50) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    Doc ur constitution and parts of ur immigration lawz dont address this issue in its totality. Let guy hill teach u something about that. Hmm. He's too straight forward fo you o wa?
  • Socrates (13/10/2016, 22:16) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    Do the UK and other European countries have jus soli or birthright citizenship? Was the 1981 British Nationality Act(BNA) passed for a specific purpose, i.e., homeland security, control immigration…….etc? Why do most or all European countries do not embrace jus soli? Would jus soli in a small locale such as the VI easily cause social upheaval, displacement, instability…..etc? Can the VI institute jus soli on its own? How much flexibility and interest does the UK have in amending the BNA to allow jus soli in the Overeseas Territories? Are some developed countries having heart burns about jus soli,i.e., US, Australia, Barbados……etc

    In small locales would jus sanguinis (citizenship is not determined by place of birth but by having one or both parents who are citizens of the state) be a workable and less disrupted action? Should the requirements for attaining Belonger status be changed? Should the VI have a stronger process for briefing immigrants on citizenship, Belonger status, naturalization……etc?
  • hot mess (13/10/2016, 22:47) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    Shwada you stand your ground
  • voter (14/10/2016, 05:13) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    The law was always there that expats go to their home country to have the baby if they were not married to a Virginislander. Those who were employed by government and should have been exempted went overseas to have their children. Those who come on their own vow not to go out even if they had to hide until the baby was born. Now they find problem with the law. These NDP politicians are leading the people astray. We need another immigration officer like the first one we had from outside.He was not from here but he route d them out of their hiding and they had to go home. Virginislanders are outnumbered in this country and the jobs are outsourced to Trinidad and other places.
    • Fiyah Ras (18/10/2016, 18:23) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @Voter you see any Virgin Islanders willing to work in hot sun or pick garbage? The jobs you all don't want to do they are doing it. You all have to much pride and no discipline! And why Virgin Islanders running to America and the Usvi to make babies? Ayo sound foolish bad!
  • HELLO!! (14/10/2016, 07:19) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    IT’S SAD HOW FUNNY MAN HAS USED THIS FOR WEAK POLTICAL POINTS AND PLAYING ON THE EMOTIONS OF THE PEOPLE
  • Love (14/10/2016, 17:50) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    wow some of your comments song like Donald Trump the Virgin Island is a place of love I do agree things have to be monitored but don't talk about people like their animals and dogs we all have to try to get along in this world what if God were to come and say get off of my Island what would you do.
  • Curly (17/10/2016, 00:01) Like (1) Dislike (1) Reply
    Always comes back to the same debate we are made to feel like we do not belong if we were not born here, no rights no matter how long we been here. Bvi people that live abroad you think that would be OK to be treated so where you have moved to...... Think not, this country going backwards due to small mindedness
  • Fiyah Ras (18/10/2016, 18:17) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
    I hate to hear this BS bout island people! Everyone is from somewhere. When you BVI landers go to other people countries you all are island people same way. It's Tim this BS stops, where you born is where you from. Common sense can tell anyone that. And again is island people is who builds countries cause the lazy ass people them here who wants to sit in offices wouldn't go build houses, pick up garbage etc. I was born in the VI but both my parents are from St.Lucia so what that makes me? I'm sick of this crap dread! Where you born is where you from period!


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