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Bikers call for protest ride through city!

- Minister for Communications & Works Honourable Vanterpool says not opposed to changes to laws regarding large bikes
The panel of bikers at last night’s forum at G-Spot. From left to right are Yachts Boynes, Shane M. Winter, Lawrence ‘Sinbad’ Fonseca and Eric Fonseca. Photo: VINO
Hon Mark H. Vanterpool, Minister for Communications and Works, speaking during the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014. Photo: VINO
Hon Mark H. Vanterpool, Minister for Communications and Works, speaking during the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014. Photo: VINO
Third District Representative Hon Julian Fraser RA speaking at the forum on biking in the VI held last night February 20, 2014. He called on the bikers to put their proposals on the table and be prepared to make concessions. Photo: VINO
Third District Representative Hon Julian Fraser RA speaking at the forum on biking in the VI held last night February 20, 2014. He called on the bikers to put their proposals on the table and be prepared to make concessions. Photo: VINO
Chief Inspector of the Royal Virgin Islands Police Force (RVIPF) Mr Kenrick Headley who spoke at the forum. Photo: VINO
Chief Inspector of the Royal Virgin Islands Police Force (RVIPF) Mr Kenrick Headley who spoke at the forum. Photo: VINO
Scene from the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014.
Scene from the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014.
Scene from the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014.
Scene from the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014.
Scene from the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014.
Scene from the forum on biking in the VI held at G-Spot in Road Town last night February 20, 2014.
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI - Some biking enthusiasts of the Virgin Islands have called for a massive ‘ride through’ of Road Town on scooters in protest to what they refer to as archaic laws regarding the restrictions on importation of motorcycles above an engine capacity of 125 cc and in an effort to get the authorities to listen to their concerns.

This was disclosed last evening February 20, 2014 at a forum themed ‘Bikes in the Virgin Islands’ which took place at the G-Spot which is located at UPs Cineplex. The forum saw a number of presentations by organisers, biking enthusiasts and members of the audience. Short presentations also came from the Third District Representative Honourable Julian Fraser RA, Minister for Communications and Works Honourable Mark H. Vanterpool and a senior member of the Royal Virgin Islands Police Force Chief Inspector Kenrick Headley.

“You want to give laws but you are not listening to the youths,” said one man from the audience. “We need to just get up now and do a petition and protest,” the man said while making a contribution to the forum.

However, the organiser of the event Mr. Shane M. Winter said that he is not in agreement with the call for protest action at this time since such actions can offend the wrong people. He believes a different approach would be more effective in seeking to lobby for changes to the laws to allow the use of larger displacement motorcycles which they feel are much safer than scooters. Winter said that there could be changes to the laws to make motorcycling safer, such as focusing on the quality on helmets, age restrictions for granting of a licence and insurance coverage stipulations.

Speaking at the event, the Third District Representative Honourable Julian Fraser RA told the audience and members of the panel that he knows what it feels like riding a motorcycle. He pointed out that he got a licence to ride a motorcycle before many on the panel were even born.

He said, “We have failed these people. We haven’t provided them with the means to ride these motorcycles…I am one such person who is prepared to listen.” But he challenged the bikers that they will have to make concessions too, though he did not disclose what concessions he referred to.

Hon Fraser called the meeting a tremendous beginning and told the organisers that it was not only up to them, but to all present at last evening’s meeting to bring the issue to a higher level.

“You are asking for the ban to be lifted…what are you prepared to put on the table?” he challenged the organisers. “People want to be assured that you are not [putting them] at risk,” he said.

One of the resource persons at the event Lawrence A. Fonseca known as Sinbad pointed out that because scooters have very small wheels, they are more prone to accident than larger motorcycles. He said too that the cost for equipment and riding gear would be too high for most people.

“People are making it out to be about bikes. A bike is just a form of transportation. What we need are stiff laws when it comes to bikes,” said the man.

Speaking on the sidelines of the event, Winter outlined a number of reasons why scooters are not a suitable form of transportation. Among these, he cited the inadequate braking capacity, inferior suspension and lack of power. “The brakes on a scooter are horrible. Coming down the hill as a 220 pound rider I have to be so careful that the brakes don’t run hot and run out of brakes going down a hill. The suspension is horrible…every bump you feel as if the bike wants to throw you off of it,” he said.

“It is way more safe to ride a [big bike] than a scooter, not to mention the power you have. I could take my wife riding with me. I could go anywhere. I could stop on a dime [since] the stopping power is way more than a small bike,” said Winter.

Speaking during the forum, RVIPF Inspector Headley said that he did not support the idea that bikes over 125 cc displacement should be banned. Questioned why it is that the Police are able to ride police bikes of a displacement of 750 cc, Headley said that the Police are exempt from such a restriction, in the same way they do not have to drive with their seatbelts on.

Honourable Vanterpool, who came almost to the end of the event, apologized for his lateness and commended the organisers for holding the forum. “I came a little while ago and I heard some good things. I want to commend you on the good discussion you are having,” he said. “I believe that you are on the right track and whatever we can do to support that, we are happy to do so,” he said. “The issue of safety was one of the issues talked about. I want to encourage you to continue with that,” he said.

“I don’t think that we in the Government have any objections to listening to you and your group’s proposals for changing the law,” said Hon Vanterpool. “What I would recommend strongly to you [is that you come as a delegation] to my office, sit down, put your case forward. I will do some research even before you come. We will be willing to pick up the cause and look at what we can do to reverse it,” he said. “It is not something that we are opposed to but we want to look at it in totality in terms of what we do,” said Hon Vanterpool.

Over the past months, there have been a number of fatal accidents involving scooters. One of the organisers said that it is his recollection that in the days before the big bikes were banned, the motorcycle fatalities were not at the level they are today.

50 Responses to “Bikers call for protest ride through city!”

  • Yes (21/02/2014, 09:11) Like (12) Dislike (14) Reply
    Oh gosh I just read on another news site the desperate ball headed minister desperate for attention and crying that he was not invited...No one wants to see him he is too divisive
    • farmer brown (21/02/2014, 10:40) Like (4) Dislike (9) Reply
      say it again hope he got the message he will not be invited to many more things
    • Shara Parlin (21/02/2014, 11:21) Like (3) Dislike (10) Reply
      Myron have lost all credibility. Meanwhile, the average youth is suffering, sometimes terribly, with no income, no jobs and no schalarship.

      • virgin gorda (21/02/2014, 13:19) Like (0) Dislike (7) Reply
        he tink tis is barners show he better go sit down with he attention seeking rass
      • Premier my tail (21/02/2014, 13:33) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
        Lord half of them I see in that photo voted NDP last time two years later they do not want to see them... thoes same boys on the block was up and down behind Myron now look how they diss he and not invited he…
      • Airrion (21/02/2014, 13:40) Like (13) Dislike (2) Reply
        So with no income, no jobs and no scholarships, bringing in these big loud bikes are going to improve their lives how? To be speed racing, noise levels off the scale, really bad accidents with a greater impact on people and vehicles? I say NO NO NO to bringing them in and is the leaders of our country allow this, they will truly reap what they have sown by damaging the happiness we have here and making the BVI no longer peaceful. I would rather see casinos open up instead of this.
  • will d (21/02/2014, 09:31) Like (5) Dislike (3) Reply
    Them can ride 125cc how them will ride a 250cc n up them need to get atv motor bike with four wheel
  • Icouldtellyah (21/02/2014, 09:50) Like (22) Dislike (3) Reply
    SO you mean them man had the heart to ask "why the police could ride faster bikes?" !.................CAZ THEY R THE POLICE... THEY ga catch Ayo dumb s**** when ayo running red lights!!
  • Drivers Rule! (21/02/2014, 09:55) Like (14) Dislike (1) Reply
    How about car drivers protesting the reckless manner in which some of these scooters operators pass us with reckless abandon! Did notice more of them wearing helmets!!
  • Lee (21/02/2014, 09:57) Like (9) Dislike (3) Reply
    These people are going to say anything to have the ban lifted on these big bikes. It is obvious that they have not experience other countries lifestyles, cultures or way of life. In some Asian countries their means of transportation is via scooters. I don’t agree with Sinbad’s comment that because scooters have very small wheels, they are more prone to accident than larger motorcycle. The larger bikes are prone to accidents just as well as the scooters; the results for these accidents on our roads are due to speed, ignorance and not paying attention on the road. I have encountered many riders on the road just over taking vehicles without indicating, just to get to the front of the other vehicles in the line
    • Jones (21/02/2014, 10:36) Like (11) Dislike (3) Reply
      In more developed countries scooters are for girls and grannies! Always amazes me to see these little boys thinking they are big men with their little girlie scooters.
    • Akbar (21/02/2014, 13:33) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
      Obviously you never rode a scooter or a motorcycle so you wouldn't understand. Yes they are all prone to injuries and accidents but for our roads and hills the scooters present a greater danger.
  • ta ta (21/02/2014, 10:30) Like (5) Dislike (17) Reply
    Congratulations to Shane and the organizers a job well done...Keep Myron and the ndp far from this before they make it politicks
    • @ta ta (23/02/2014, 12:44) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      You sound stupid. Myron is a minister under the NDP Party who is running the government. No law can pass without them. You all must learn to do things the right way.
  • nonsense (21/02/2014, 10:42) Like (6) Dislike (2) Reply
    I never understood why the police are not required to wear seat belts. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen and heard.

    • Stupss (21/02/2014, 12:55) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
      Its not just the police its all EMERGENCY vehicles while on duty, fire, ambulance for obvious purposes.
  • Scary Mary (21/02/2014, 10:43) Like (8) Dislike (7) Reply
    I agree that the Minister probably "should" have been invited to this meeting, but Mr. Winters is a young man and not a politician. I imagine he was not aware that his government even cares about this topic. After all, what has the government done to address the scooter issue, aside from pretend it doesn't exist? How many deaths does it take to get government's attention?

    I applaud Minister Vanterpool for taking the initiative and just showing up. That was a good move and it clearly shows he cares.

    Minister Walwyn, nobody is stopping you (or anyone else) from initiating meetings on your own! The public has been begging government to do something about scooters for quite some time! How long does it take for government to deal with a problem that has been glaringly evident to everyone else for a few years now?

    The fact that this young man pulled together a group of scooter riders on his own, speaks volumes. They have stated that they are willing to work with the citizens as well as the police. Perhaps you can put your bruised ego aside and get on with the job at hand. (BTW) There were articles in the local newspapers informing that they were having this meeting, when and where. I know you read the papers, Mr. Walwyn. You have taken several opportunities to complain about bloggers and several other issues relating to freedom of speech, freedom of information and freedom of the press.

    So why not take the bull by the horns and initiate new legislation regarding scooters and motor bikes. The new cybercrime bill is evidence of just how quickly government can construct new laws when they want to!

    Get this monkey off our backs by giving the law some real teeth for those who commit offenses and some well deserved freedoms for those who ride reasonably, respectfully and safely.

    I truly hope the age limit is raised!
  • Observer (21/02/2014, 10:43) Like (6) Dislike (3) Reply
    Its a shame these ministers only could attend the funerals when these youths die but can't attend a meeting to help with solutions before they die its shameful who will they be looking for votes the youths and the parents of the youths.Action man is a real minister the others are fake just pretending i hope he is around to bring them home next election.
  • Relase (21/02/2014, 10:48) Like (5) Dislike (4) Reply
    TRAGIC with awful ramifications if the bigger bikes come back!!!
  • Opinion (21/02/2014, 10:59) Like (12) Dislike (2) Reply
    I have never ridden a big bike but I have always loved them and I would love to own one. But for the greater good I could not support a lifting of the ban. I'm sorry but I am not at all convinced that these guys will respect the rules of the road. If they do so much reckless nonsense when it is illegal I can only imagine what will happen when it's legal and there are more bikes which will mean more showing off, more racing and more of one trying to outdo the other. Beyond the havoc I think they will create on the streets we will have the same issues that we have with the small race boats - expensive toys + young guys who cannot afford to own/maintain them = lots and lots of theft. They will be stealing parts etc from each other and anyone else who brings in a big bike plus smuggling in stole parts from the USVI and where ever else. Bottom line, the majority of the guys who are into big bikes are too reckless and irresponsible to ever consider lifting this ban. I mean just look at the havoc these scooters are creating - the noise, the reckless riding and the crime associated with them. It will be more of the same with these big bikes.
    • 4 Dah Streetz (21/02/2014, 13:17) Like (2) Dislike (7) Reply
      The reason why they are not respecting traffic rules and regulations is because the bikes are not legal and they have to ride the way they do, when they get a chance, is so they are not caught by the police. Think about it. Last month my vehicle liscense sticker expired, at the time i had no money to re-register it. I drove my vehicle for 2 weeks with the expired sticker and i will admit it, i was driving like those boys on illegal bikes through road town. In and out Ally's hoping the cops were not around the nex corner. How does that differ me from them? Now that my vehicle is legal, i am driving with more confiedence and doing the right thing.
  • What? (21/02/2014, 11:19) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    If you too fat for a scooter drive a damn car. WTF? LMAO!!
  • Female Rider #BangBang (21/02/2014, 11:20) Like (16) Dislike (1) Reply
    Some of us missing the BIG picture here. Walking IS unsafe these days people. Driving is un-safe,, riding is un-safe, catching a ride is un-safe. Why so many people against bike riders? What i am strongly against is the damn noise some of these scooters make at nights and during the day. If the riders want to zoom in and out of traffic like jack asses let them. Like my grand mother use to say "monkey never know the size of his ass hole til he swallow plum seed". And some of you bloggers on here being hard on scooter/bike riders, yall are the same ones when it have races are on the scene looking and cheering them on. So what exactly is your problem? Additionally; to Shane and the group, first i think you/WE need to approach the riders whose scooters make over bearing noise through the streets day and night and have them silence them or put back to their normal state. Secondly, start a 'Bikers Club" and register members and ensure that they stick to the rules and guidelines of the club to SET EXAMPLES for other riders to ride safe abiding with traffic rules. Thirdly, WE, yes WE, KNOW who some of these reckless bike riders are, talk to them, caution them, if they dont REPORT them backside to th police. This will ease some the pressure off those bike riders that abide with the traffic laws. Finally, dont just ask us to help you defend bike riders, show us that you all are willing to go that extra mile to commit yourselves to doing the right thing on these bikes. I LOVE to see those boys riding those BIG bike (safely). And i am all for lifting the laws on them but at the same time i want to see my people RIDE TO SURVIVE and not RIDE OR DIE.
    • @ Female Rider (21/02/2014, 12:51) Like (3) Dislike (1) Reply
      Even breathing today is unsafe my girl. I feel your blog 200%. But differently, like i have been saying for donkey years about weed. Legalize it, the street value drops, then you will see how the Crime rate and other concerning it will eventually disappear. Legalize the big bikes as i am sure because of their cost not every Tom, Dick and Harry will be able to afford and maintain one. Tires alone are in the price range of over $200.00. Lift the band on these bikes for a three (3) month trial period and ask the riders/owners that want to ride these bikes to register them at DMV (this will ensure that they are street ready). Then monitor them on the road for an additional 3 mths and see what happens. I feel that it is un-fair to say that it will not work if we do not give the youths a chance to prove themselves otherwise.
      • Green grasshopper (22/02/2014, 07:56) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
        Yes legalize the big bikes but at the same time encourage government to look land space for cemetery and ask the funeral home to stock up on more caskets
  • one eye (21/02/2014, 11:26) Like (3) Dislike (5) Reply
    MVW acting like a drama Queen seeking attention…if he wanted to be there he would have been!!! such a big baby. Happy to see mark attended as Myron must realized tis not about self but country
    • Agree (21/02/2014, 15:15) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      Very good turn out that why it’s important to keep the NDP far from this event
  • Winston (21/02/2014, 12:49) Like (7) Dislike (1) Reply
    Am I the only person that seems to remember the sleepless nights when Sinbad and his gang tore around the place ?
    • no way (22/02/2014, 20:41) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      When these bike riders start to respect themselves, the public and the roads ..then they will get the support of the people. Until then do not lift the ban. Let them first prove that their behaviour can improve.
  • Sarcastic (21/02/2014, 12:57) Like (7) Dislike (2) Reply
    So two boys die, in the BVI, in a short space of time, for doing foolish things on a 2-wheeled motor vehicle... one was speeding, no helmet... what is the answer? MORE BIKES! WOW!
  • -Benny (21/02/2014, 13:34) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    I have been away to other countries and have seen these motorcycles separately and in convoys going down big wide highways. The noise is deafening and we cannot wait until they have passed us so we can even have a conversation or listen to our own televisions. The sudden noise of them approaching makes one brace themselves, and when they are next to you passing, the noise level is unnerving. I for one hope they do not allow those bikes on this small island. We, the residents will suffer greatly and the home we call Nature's Little Secret will become Hell on Wheels. Many others as well as myself have already become very nervous if this happens and will have to look to other places to live worldwide, which we do not want to do.
  • dude (21/02/2014, 14:25) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    Deeeds dudes don't learn from the number of dead boys mistakes! Who don't hear gon feel.
  • Yes (21/02/2014, 15:54) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    They don't want scholarships, jobs or opportunities for business, just give them big bikes and they happy. LOL! Wow. Myron you are wasting your time trying to revamp education boss. Just lift the bike ban and lower the grading system and you got an automatic re-election. SMH.
  • to benny (21/02/2014, 16:17) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
    When ever or where ever you move to in this world you will hear the same thing, cause it's only in tortola bikes are illegal.
    • Benny (21/02/2014, 20:45) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      Not true, there are a lot of towns in the USA that do not allow motorcycles and it is quiet and peaceful. A motorcycle may come passing through every now and then, but it is rare. You cannot stop people from passing through, but as a resident you cannot own motorcycles, so the living is easy.
      • Is That Right? (22/02/2014, 19:24) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        How can a Town now allow motorcycles when Towns don't register vehicles/motorcycles?
  • Gregra (21/02/2014, 17:51) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    With the idea of discussing this hot topic it amazes me that the organizers never thought it prudent to invite those people who has some interest in this matter. As it was being proposed to have a protest ride through Road Town my guess is that some authority would have to be requested from the Police and if not then it would've been done illegally. So that is one player that was not contacted. The gov of the day makes laws or amends them periodically so would it not be prudent to invite them to the table? I do not believe Mr. Winter is so daft that he expects only moto cycle enthusiast alone should attend. It is this sort of sleight of mind activity that people of clearer mind do not accept as just forgetfulness of thoughtlessness. If you're truly interested in saving young lives then you would do the due diligence and have all players to the table. On the topic of the higher CC I must say that I do not support your argument because at present people not respecting the Law not because of the low CC but because they have no respect for the law. To allow a higher CC in the territory at present is not recommended. I do love big bikes though but there needs to be proper research, communication, consultation and all stakeholders must be at the same table working hard in the best interest of all. Peace be to all. Out.
  • Bullseye (22/02/2014, 07:41) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Shane you was well applauded when you organize this forum but do drop yourself back to zero when you mentions protest for bigger bikes. Hose you are well aware of what the smaller bikes doing to our young men including your own son now u going for bigger one shame on u and all those others who supporting that
  • Outspoken (22/02/2014, 07:49) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Only a fool breaks his own heart the smaller bikes killing and mashing them up now they talking about protest for bigger bikes we will have none of it
  • hip hop (22/02/2014, 08:00) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    It's nothing against bike riders it's against the none sense that u riders do on the roads
  • HMMM (22/02/2014, 12:32) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    why we have a set or criminals trying to change our laws for their own deeds
    • strupes again again (23/02/2014, 09:14) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      lol kenyata was part of it to didn't the police take his white 1000 bike form him after he was stunting off on it in long bush, don't I see him talking to his goons like he is the head honcho on the block al of them sitting and he preaching to them on what to do. and we most listen to u who have no respect for law either lol boy go sit yo crackass down
  • strupes again (23/02/2014, 09:10) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply

    big s..t aint no body to listen to neither the rest of them we all know who u all are and u really think we going listen to ayo for ayo own pleasures and make this thing worst. some of yall saying bout if the big bikes come then u wont have to hide and stunt or would not be so reckless with them you would just ride show u bike. please keep that grop story to url self. if u can hide to ride and stunt then if the law passed u going do it publuic more with no respect that some of url done dont have. no big s..t aint no icon to have talking to any kids. he has no respect for the public or the law so go an sit url crackasss.

  • jah (24/02/2014, 10:13) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    tola traffic already bz ,where the fuc ayo want too ride these bigger bikes???? ayo calling for more death in the b.vi
  • Hmm (24/02/2014, 23:46) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply

    I thought this thing was suppose to be about finding ways to encourage the youths to ride safe. How all this talk about bigger bikes and politics get into it???
  • Travis (27/02/2014, 20:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    These punks can't think on anything better to do with themselves other than motorbikes?


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